krambman
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Aug 31, 2011 12:22am
That is one of the things the original AP article I posted talked about. Something like 9 of the current SEC schools have to vote to approve the inclusion of TAMU into the conference, but that TAMU needed to announce they were leaving the Big XII first. TAMU won't leave the Big XII unless they are sure they have the votes to get into the SEC.WebFire;877537 wrote:Ah gotchya.
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WebFire
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Aug 31, 2011 8:42am
Dog chasing its tail?krambman;878104 wrote:That is one of the things the original AP article I posted talked about. Something like 9 of the current SEC schools have to vote to approve the inclusion of TAMU into the conference, but that TAMU needed to announce they were leaving the Big XII first. TAMU won't leave the Big XII unless they are sure they have the votes to get into the SEC.
Crimson streak
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Aug 31, 2011 8:55am
SportsAndLady;863431 wrote:Rumor out of Austin is that Texas is trying to recruit Notre Dame to come to the Big 12...lol good luck with that, Texas.
If nd is going to join a conference it would be the big 10
karen lotz
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Aug 31, 2011 11:19am
A&M has formally notified the Big XII that it will apply to another conference.
ts1227
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Aug 31, 2011 11:48am
karen lotz;878348 wrote:A&M has formally notified the Big XII that it will apply to another conference.
Link on ESPN now (too lazy to link from phone).
This announcement came from A&M itself, so it's actually true this time.
karen lotz
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Aug 31, 2011 11:53am
ts1227
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Sep 7, 2011 9:31am
ESPN article saying the SEC presidents voted 12-0 to let A&M in last night (rumor is that initially Vandy abstained and Ole Miss said no, but voted yes for the sake of appearance once they saw their no votes meant nothing).
Now, one last hangup is that the SEC wants assurance that no Big 12 school will sue over anything, and Baylor seems to not want to agree (and may have reneged on a previous position).
Now, one last hangup is that the SEC wants assurance that no Big 12 school will sue over anything, and Baylor seems to not want to agree (and may have reneged on a previous position).
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enigmaax
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Sep 7, 2011 10:21am
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enigmaax
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Sep 7, 2011 10:31am
And the full SEC statement:
“After receiving unanimous written assurance from the Big 12 on September 2 that the Southeastern Conference was free to accept Texas A&M to join as a new member, the presidents and chancellors of the SEC met last night with the intention of accepting the application of Texas A&M to be the newest member of the SEC,” Machen said. “We were notified yesterday afternoon that at least one Big 12 institution had withdrawn its previous consent and was considering legal action.
“The SEC has stated that to consider an institution for membership, there must be no contractual hindrances to its departure. The SEC voted unanimously to accept Texas A&M University as a member upon receiving acceptable reconfirmation that the Big 12 and its members have reaffirmed the letter dated September 2, 2011.”
OneBuckeye
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Sep 7, 2011 10:33am
Gee I wonder which school withdrew its previous consent.
Iliketurtles
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Sep 7, 2011 10:42am
It was Baylor not Texas like your thinking.OneBuckeye;886108 wrote:Gee I wonder which school withdrew its previous consent.
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NilesPacMan
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Sep 7, 2011 10:58am
Before, Baylor probably was viewing the Big XII as existing without A&M. Now, they see the conference exploding, and they know that they're most likely to on the outside. They're likely doing anything and everything to protect their own butts.
However, with the talk of Oklahoma leaving and what not, it's basically all for naught, as they would only be delaying the inevitable.
However, with the talk of Oklahoma leaving and what not, it's basically all for naught, as they would only be delaying the inevitable.
ts1227
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Sep 7, 2011 10:58am
Feels like this is the Texas Legislature (Baylor heavy membership) getting indirectly involved.
krambman
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Sep 7, 2011 12:03pm
As someone tweeted the other day, the Big XII is the Titanic, Texas (and the Longhorn Network) was the iceberg, and Colorado, Nebraska, and Texas A&M got into the lifeboats. Baylor, Kansas, and Iowa State are in the band and going down with the ship.
krambman
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Sep 7, 2011 12:04pm
Here's what I wonder: If Baylor had previously given its consent for A&M to leave the conference and has since rescinded their consent, couldn't A&M counter-sue over that?
karen lotz
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Sep 7, 2011 12:07pm
an accurate depiction of Baylor trying to stop TAMU to the SEC:
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enigmaax
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Sep 7, 2011 12:18pm
Kind of wondered about that, too. But, I don't even really think it matters because from what I understand the SEC just simply doesn't want to deal with it. Whether they are right or wrong and would ultimately win, there'll be an investment of time, energy, and money and there really isn't a point in that from the SEC's standpoint. It isn't like they need Texas A&M, so taking them on just to turn around and have to focus all your energy on defending a lawsuit isn't really worth it.krambman;886217 wrote:Here's what I wonder: If Baylor had previously given its consent for A&M to leave the conference and has since rescinded their consent, couldn't A&M counter-sue over that?
derek bomar
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Sep 7, 2011 12:20pm
fantastickaren lotz;886223 wrote:an accurate depiction of Baylor trying to stop TAMU to the SEC:
ts1227
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Sep 7, 2011 12:23pm
krambman;886216 wrote:As someone tweeted the other day, the Big XII is the Titanic, Texas (and the Longhorn Network) was the iceberg, and Colorado, Nebraska, and Texas A&M got into the lifeboats. Baylor, Kansas, and Iowa State are in the band and going down with the ship.
Baylor is the dumbass rearranging the deck chairs.
SportsAndLady
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Sep 7, 2011 1:07pm
Lol Kansas is not "going down" they are one of the more profitable athletic departments in the entire country when you factor in basketball revenue.krambman;886216 wrote: Baylor, Kansas, and Iowa State are in the band and going down with the ship.
They'll be just fine.
Iowa State and Baylor? Yeah, they could be toast.
ts1227
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Sep 7, 2011 1:14pm
Kansas still has to worry some. With football being basically the sole motivating factor with these moves and Turner Gill not exactly setting the world on fire, should the Big 12 collapse they could get dicked into the MWC or something despite their basketball program. Then money may become an issue.
Iliketurtles
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Sep 7, 2011 1:26pm
Haha that is great!karen lotz;886223 wrote:an accurate depiction of Baylor trying to stop TAMU to the SEC:
killer_ewok
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Sep 7, 2011 3:56pm
ts1227;886286 wrote:Kansas still has to worry some. With football being basically the sole motivating factor with these moves and Turner Gill not exactly setting the world on fire, should the Big 12 collapse they could get dicked into the MWC or something despite their basketball program. Then money may become an issue.
+1
SportsAndLady
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Sep 7, 2011 6:15pm
If football is the sole reason, then yes they could be in trouble. But I don't think it is. Kansas' basketball program is a monster. Their football program brings in a measly 17 mill/year which is good for second to last in the Big 12. But their basketball program brings in over 50 million a year, which makes KU's overall athletic department the 6th most profitable in the league. It would be the 7th most profitable in the Big 10; 4th in the Pac 10, etc. The basketball program makes up for their terrible football program Even if their football team was average (remember, they were in a BCS bowl game 5 years ago), the athletic department would be top third of any conference.ts1227;886286 wrote:Kansas still has to worry some. With football being basically the sole motivating factor with these moves and Turner Gill not exactly setting the world on fire, should the Big 12 collapse they could get ****ed into the MWC or something despite their basketball program. Then money may become an issue.
ts1227
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Sep 7, 2011 7:56pm
It seems to have ballooned from only Baylor to EVERYONE BUT Oklahoma after a Big 12 conference call this evening.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/6939017/texas-aggies-accepted-sec-legal-threat-delays-move
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/6939017/texas-aggies-accepted-sec-legal-threat-delays-move