bases_loaded
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Aug 5, 2011 9:20pm
royal_k;852881 wrote:I'm not gonna start this argument all over again. you obviously, liked the trade....I didn't.
And Shelly makes it 7-2 with a long fly!
I just think its fucking stupid to base the trade on tonight. You traded a guy who is a year away and one with a finger injury your last prospect never healed from for a guy who when he's good he's got stuff no one has.
royal_k
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Aug 5, 2011 9:20pm
97 on the radar and a perfect pitch for strike 3.
hoops23
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Aug 5, 2011 9:22pm
Ubaldo not having a problem with velocity. 96-98 on his last 3 fastballs.
royal_k
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Aug 5, 2011 9:24pm
bases_loaded;852888 wrote:I just think its fucking stupid to base the trade on tonight. You traded a guy who is a year away and one with a finger injury your last prospect never healed from for a guy who when he's good he's got stuff no one has.
My opinion on the trade has nothing to do with what happens tonight. I was against it from the beginning. I really hope I'm proved wrong.
hoops23
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Aug 5, 2011 9:28pm
The trade was a no brainer, imo.
Alex Miller has made 3 starts... 3. And he already went out with the same injury that sidelined Adam Miller and derailed his entire career... Remember, Adam Miller was the "next big thing" as well..
You can't bitch about always rebuilding and never going for anything, then bitch when they do do something. I'm glad the Tribe FO finally showed some balls and went for it. If Ubaldo was a FA after this year, then yes, I'd be PISSED.... However, we have him for TWO more years AT LEAST.
Alex Miller has made 3 starts... 3. And he already went out with the same injury that sidelined Adam Miller and derailed his entire career... Remember, Adam Miller was the "next big thing" as well..
You can't bitch about always rebuilding and never going for anything, then bitch when they do do something. I'm glad the Tribe FO finally showed some balls and went for it. If Ubaldo was a FA after this year, then yes, I'd be PISSED.... However, we have him for TWO more years AT LEAST.
royal_k
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Aug 5, 2011 9:34pm
hoops23;852897 wrote:The trade was a no brainer, imo.
Alex Miller has made 3 starts... 3. And he already went out with the same injury that sidelined Adam Miller and derailed his entire career... Remember, Adam Miller was the "next big thing" as well..
You can't bitch about always rebuilding and never going for anything, then bitch when they do do something. I'm glad the Tribe FO finally showed some balls and went for it. If Ubaldo was a FA after this year, then yes, I'd be PISSED.... However, we have him for TWO more years AT LEAST.
I agree with your 2nd point. The FO showed some balls and went out and made a big trade. But it wasn't a no brainer.
TBone14
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Aug 5, 2011 9:38pm
Hard to pitch in this shit as evidenced by the Tribe actually scoring runs. I am taking nothing away from this start either way, even if he shuts them down for the next 3. His shit is filthy no matter what.
hoops23
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Aug 5, 2011 9:38pm
royal_k;852900 wrote:I agree with your 2nd point. The FO showed some balls and went out and made a big trade. But it wasn't a no brainer.
IMO, and in their opinion, it was.
Prospects are prospects. Point blank. And the percentage of highly touted pitching prospects actually becoming what they were supposed to, is actually alarmingly low.
royal_k
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Aug 5, 2011 9:40pm
hoops23;852905 wrote:IMO, and in their opinion, it was.
Prospects are prospects. Point blank. And the percentage of highly touted pitching prospects actually becoming what they were supposed to, is actually alarmingly low.
This is very true. Again, I say I hope I'm proved wrong.
royal_k
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Aug 5, 2011 9:42pm
You're right TBone...some filthy shit.
TBone14
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Aug 5, 2011 9:42pm
Good inning. We need more runs, though.
BRF
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Aug 5, 2011 9:44pm
That's right OQB...my man Duncan, who should have NEVER been sent down at any time...Kearns playing ahead of him...sheez!
And on Alex White comments....this is why I didn't like the trade...he proved himself at the major league level and will be back and do well, imo........however.....I have to agree...he ain't doin' it NOW and Ubaldo IS! So I'm ok with it for now.
And on Alex White comments....this is why I didn't like the trade...he proved himself at the major league level and will be back and do well, imo........however.....I have to agree...he ain't doin' it NOW and Ubaldo IS! So I'm ok with it for now.
royal_k
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Aug 5, 2011 9:47pm
Quinten, with 2 HRs tonight , would look good in a Tribe uni.
Crimson streak
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Aug 5, 2011 9:47pm
Sorry brf but 3 starts isn't really proving yourself. Ubaldo is straight filthy but is struggling with his control tonight
hoops23
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Aug 5, 2011 9:53pm
royal_k;852915 wrote:Quinten, with 2 HRs tonight , would look good in a Tribe uni.
Yes! Especially right now because he seems to be hot at the plate... IF we did get him, he'd probably be in a 1-35 drought lmao.
hoops23
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Aug 5, 2011 9:55pm
Ubaldo falls behind Josh Hamilton 3-1 and then makes him his bitch on two straight heaters.
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Footwedge
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Aug 5, 2011 9:58pm
Dude. If Ubaldo has stuff no one else has, then why are the Rangers pounding the shit out of it? Why was the guy a paltry 6-9? An ERA of 4 and a half? Alex White didn't have any first game jitters.bases_loaded;852888 wrote:I just think its ****ing stupid to base the trade on tonight. You traded a guy who is a year away and one with a finger injury your last prospect never healed from for a guy who when he's good he's got stuff no one has.
OQB
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Aug 5, 2011 9:59pm
BRF;852911 wrote:That's right OQB...my man Duncan, who should have NEVER been sent down at any time...Kearns playing ahead of him...sheez!
And on Alex White comments....this is why I didn't like the trade...he proved himself at the major league level and will be back and do well, imo........however.....I have to agree...he ain't doin' it NOW and Ubaldo IS! So I'm ok with it for now.
I love Duncan because he will do anything the coach asks him to do and he has really done a lot while in the Indians uniform....I agree he should stay up and be a utility guy.
bases_loaded
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Aug 5, 2011 10:02pm
Footwedge;852924 wrote:Dude. If Ubaldo has stuff no one else has, then why are the Rangers pounding the **** out of it? Why was the guy a paltry 6-9? An ERA of 4 and a half? Alex White didn't have any first game jitters.
It's 105 and the park is a band box. Alex white isn't pitching anywhere tonight or next week or next month. Ubaldo n masterson will make it hard to lose series
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Footwedge
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Aug 5, 2011 10:03pm
Numbers don't lie....he has every right to be pissed...BR1986FB;852878 wrote:I did hear on WKNR today that after White was traded he had a major chip on his shoulder and was pissed. Told the Rock's GM O'Dowd that he will "be a better pitcher than what he traded" or something to that effect. Time will tell.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=white-001ale
bases_loaded
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Aug 5, 2011 10:05pm
7 k's n 6 hits is getting hammered? Back to dungeons n dragons Poindexter
BRF
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Aug 5, 2011 10:06pm
Crimson streak;852916 wrote:Sorry brf but 3 starts isn't really proving yourself.
Sorry Crimson, I disagree.
hoops23
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Aug 5, 2011 10:06pm
Footwedge;852924 wrote:Dude. If Ubaldo has stuff no one else has, then why are the Rangers pounding the shit out of it? Why was the guy a paltry 6-9? An ERA of 4 and a half? Alex White didn't have any first game jitters.
Pounding the shit out of him? He's retired 8 straight hitters, has around 7 K's and has given up 3 runs... How exactly is that "pounding the shit out of"???
OQB
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Aug 5, 2011 10:07pm
Are we trying to "steal" a victory tonight or what?? Lol why our The slow guys trying to steal?
hoops23
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Aug 5, 2011 10:07pm
Alex White also took a subtle shot at Cleveland when he left, so fuck him.