
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Aug 4, 2011 6:49pm
Lmao @ tk's opinion. What Is only being aloud to search with probable cause? Their skin is brown? Let me guess..the fuckers on 9/11 who killed thousands of innocent americans were nothing to worry about because their wasnt probable cause to search them.
Also, whether or not a gunshop runs a background check on a customer is really irrelevant. You can get a gun anywhere..easy
Also, whether or not a gunshop runs a background check on a customer is really irrelevant. You can get a gun anywhere..easy

baseball4
Posts: 279
Aug 4, 2011 11:53pm
Scarlet_Buckeye;851588 wrote:Tell that to the 32 people who lost their lives in '07 on the very same campus.
Impossible.

sonofsam
Posts: 2,052
Aug 5, 2011 12:39am
Caught yet??

Glory Days
Posts: 7,809
Aug 5, 2011 7:03am
sonofsam;852151 wrote:Caught yet??
you didnt read the article did you?

Scarlet_Buckeye
Posts: 5,264
Aug 5, 2011 1:32pm
LJ;851856 wrote:You couldn't be any more wrong. Every FFL is required by federal law to complete a background check. The VT shooter had a background check performed and came back clean. The state mental health system failed to report his mental status anywhere.
These "background" checks can be a joke. Take it from someone who has a family member who's worked for a number of gun shops, and my relative has told me that he's seen countless occasions where an individual has been sold a gun while skipping the background check or "haphazardly" going thru the check.

Scarlet_Buckeye
Posts: 5,264
Aug 5, 2011 1:34pm
rydawg5;851697 wrote:you would have appreciated the 1950s and the red scare then. overreacting always ends up taking right/freedoms away.
You must be a Sith. Only a Sith deals in absolutes.
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rydawg5
Posts: 2,639
Aug 5, 2011 1:36pm
Scarlet_Buckeye;852476 wrote:You must be a Sith. Only a Sith deals in absolutes.
You're an idiot.

LJ
Posts: 16,351
Aug 5, 2011 1:38pm
Scarlet_Buckeye;852473 wrote:These "background" checks can be a joke. Take it from someone who has a family member who's worked for a number of gun shops, and my relative has told me that he's seen countless occasions where an individual has been sold a gun while skipping the background check or "haphazardly" going thru the check.
I don't believe it. Every FFL has their books checked very very thoroughly and every single gun HAS to be logged in and out with a NICS number and subsequent paperwork. The average employee who steals guns from an FFL lasts about 3 months before getting caught due to the constant audits that BATFE does on the logs.

Scarlet_Buckeye
Posts: 5,264
Aug 5, 2011 7:31pm
LJ;852486 wrote:I don't believe it. Every FFL has their books checked very very thoroughly and every single gun HAS to be logged in and out with a NICS number and subsequent paperwork. The average employee who steals guns from an FFL lasts about 3 months before getting caught due to the constant audits that BATFE does on the logs.
You can choose not to believe it, but that doesn't make it not true.

Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Aug 5, 2011 8:15pm
my ex girlfriends dad owned a gun shop. They would sell to people all the time who werent qualified. The son would just put the gun in his name.
Like I said..not hard to get your hands on a gun.
Like I said..not hard to get your hands on a gun.

LJ
Posts: 16,351
Aug 5, 2011 8:58pm
Pick6;852816 wrote:my ex girlfriends dad owned a gun shop. They would sell to people all the time who werent qualified. The son would just put the gun in his name.
Like I said..not hard to get your hands on a gun.
I can believe doing straw purchases (once again, a felony). I do not and will not believe that shops can get away with logging guns in and out without having a NICS #. I don't believe this because it is impossible. The BATFE cross checks logs every few months. It's pretty brutal.