Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
Dec 19, 2011 4:16pm
based on...Footwedge;1020277 wrote:The 4th quarter drive was 91 yards...not bad. How many 91 yard drives have the Browns had this year?
Personally, I thought this was Tebow's best all around game this year...except for the fumbles.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Dec 19, 2011 4:16pm
I think quite a few people may agree with this. The issue comes in here:Footwedge;1020277 wrote:The 4th quarter drive was 91 yards...not bad. How many 91 yard drives have the Browns had this year?
Personally, I thought this was Tebow's best all around game this year...except for the fumbles.
-7 wins when he looked pretty bad everyong just said but they won. We all pointed out his poor play/stats and they didnt matter because in the 4th Q he won the game.
But today we are reading about how Tebow actually looked ok. Lets be honest, not good, ok. Why do the stats matter today and not the result, but in the other games it was the other way around?
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landshark0731
Posts: 273
Dec 19, 2011 4:18pm
Good post Laley, As i said before his stats are fools gold.Laley23;1020287 wrote:I think quite a few people may agree with this. The issue comes in here:
-7 wins when he looked pretty bad everyong just said but they won. We all pointed out his poor play/stats and they didnt matter because in the 4th Q he won the game.
But today we are reading about how Tebow actually looked ok. Lets be honest, not good, ok. Why do the stats matter today and not the result, but in the other games it was the other way around?
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Dec 19, 2011 4:54pm
sportswizuhrd;1020157 wrote:Decker #45 at WR with 182 yac of his 607 receiving yards.
Dont have the time to see where the other players rank at their position but here are the other players in total rank...
T-164 Moreno at 106 yac (101 total rec yards...)
T-173 Ball at 101 (148)
T-189 Willis at 89 (256)
T-193 Fells at 85 (220)
T-201 Thomas at 76 (441)
http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/receiving/sort/receivingYardsAfterCatch/qualified/false/count/81
Decker is at #89 and the rest of the ranks proves how far off sleeper is.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Dec 19, 2011 5:02pm
Laley23;1020287 wrote:I think quite a few people may agree with this. The issue comes in here:
-7 wins when he looked pretty bad everyong just said but they won. We all pointed out his poor play/stats and they didnt matter because in the 4th Q he won the game.
But today we are reading about how Tebow actually looked ok. Lets be honest, not good, ok. Why do the stats matter today and not the result, but in the other games it was the other way around?
Tebow 7 wins Passer ratings:
Miami 91.7
Oakland 98.1
KC 102.6
Jets 61.2
SD 95.4
Minn 149.3
Chic 70.1
His 2 lowest ratings we all know what he did in the 4th quarter of those games. For a first year starter and having your team in first place in your division, I would take those stats anytime. Tebow has been solid and is getting better each week. Again his overall Passer rating is better than 18 other starting QB's, his TD to Int ratio is 2nd best in the entire NFL.
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sportswizuhrd
Posts: 3,215
Dec 19, 2011 7:18pm
Yeah thats what I used for Decker. After seeing the YAC rankings, I was surprised at some of the players above Decker, but knew the rest of the Broncos would be way down.Skyhook79;1020340 wrote:http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/receiving/sort/receivingYardsAfterCatch/qualified/false/count/81
Decker is at #89 and the rest of the ranks proves how far off sleeper is.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Dec 19, 2011 7:37pm
Tebow has a great Qbr and doesnt throw picks!!!! he must be a great qb.
Or he faces 8 men in the box on a regular basis and can pass against that (50% of the time). Amazing!!!
Or he faces 8 men in the box on a regular basis and can pass against that (50% of the time). Amazing!!!
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Dec 19, 2011 9:32pm
No one said he was great but he certainly can play QB in the NFL and given time could be pretty good.Hb31187;1020482 wrote:Tebow has a great Qbr and doesnt throw picks!!!! he must be a great qb.
Or he faces 8 men in the box on a regular basis and can pass against that (50% of the time). Amazing!!!
Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
Dec 20, 2011 7:53am
He pretty much took a step back against NE. No one is focusing on his loss or his turnovers and sacks....only focusing on him being able to score in the first quarter since he hasn't really done that too much.Skyhook79;1020346 wrote:Tebow 7 wins Passer ratings:
Miami 91.7
Oakland 98.1
KC 102.6
Jets 61.2
SD 95.4
Minn 149.3
Chic 70.1
His 2 lowest ratings we all know what he did in the 4th quarter of those games. For a first year starter and having your team in first place in your division, I would take those stats anytime. Tebow has been solid and is getting better each week. Again his overall Passer rating is better than 18 other starting QB's, his TD to Int ratio is 2nd best in the entire NFL.
Tired of the media hype he's getting, if he were having a rookie season like Big Ben then i would understand it, but he's not. Can't wait to hear what everyone has to say when he goes on a losing streak.
Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
Dec 20, 2011 7:54am
What a dumb blanket statement that could be said about any up and coming QB.Skyhook79;1020683 wrote:No one said he was great but he certainly can play QB in the NFL and given time could be pretty good.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Dec 20, 2011 9:19am
Yeah right he took a step back.Raw Dawgin' it;1021410 wrote:He pretty much took a step back against NE. But then again I clearly do not know much about football
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Dec 20, 2011 9:22am
Yeah, we know.Skyhook79;1021502 wrote:I got pwned and I'm trying to spin it
Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
Dec 20, 2011 10:03am
what did he do that was so impressive? "He started strong then sucked until 1 drive in the 4th"Skyhook79;1021502 wrote:Yeah right he took a step back.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 20, 2011 10:07am
Jamarcus Russel was pretty good his first year too.Skyhook79;1021502 wrote:Yeah right he took a step back.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Dec 20, 2011 12:42pm
Yeah, you are right, his 6 turnovers and 2 Td's were awesome his first year.sleeper;1021589 wrote:Jamarcus Russel was pretty good his first year too.
Btw- How about some stats to back up your claim about the Denver receivers? HaHa I will be waiting.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 20, 2011 1:08pm
I meant average YAC. Obviously, because Tebow is a 50% passer(which is apparently a great stat according to Tebow fans), his receivers aren't going to be in the top for anything. All he does is win though right? LOLSkyhook79;1021797 wrote:Yeah, you are right, his 6 turnovers and 2 Td's were awesome his first year.
Btw- How about some stats to back up your claim about the Denver receivers? HaHa I will be waiting.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Dec 20, 2011 1:11pm
While you are waiting, do me a favor and provide evidence to your claims that all cavs fans believed broussard, and also show me where I said I hate/dislike tim tebow. Thanks.Skyhook79;1021797 wrote:Yeah, you are right, his 6 turnovers and 2 Td's were awesome his first year.
Btw- How about some stats to back up your claim about the Denver receivers? HaHa I will be waiting.
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landshark0731
Posts: 273
Dec 20, 2011 1:17pm
Her are some stats Hook. Tebow Ranks Last in Completions,Yrds a game at 123 yrds,Completion percentage at 48.6% .Been sacked 27 times just 10 fewer than qbs who have started everygame. Decker and Thomas are denvers receivers that rank in the top 150. decker at 70 and thomas at 143.Skyhook79;1021797 wrote:Yeah, you are right, his 6 turnovers and 2 Td's were awesome his first year.
Btw- How about some stats to back up your claim about the Denver receivers? HaHa I will be waiting.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Dec 20, 2011 1:18pm
Eric Decker averages 4 YAC on his 43 receptions. Do you have any other stats you would like to throw against the wall to see if they stick?sleeper;1021838 wrote:I meant average YAC.
#sleeperlosesagainagainagain LOL
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Dec 20, 2011 1:19pm
Speak English and maybe I can decipher what you are saying and wait until after recess is over too.landshark0731;1021852 wrote:Her are some stats Hook. Tebow Ranks Last in Completions,Yrds a game at 123 yrds,Completion percentage at 48.6% .Been sacked 27 times just 10 fewer than qbs who have started everygame. Decker and Thomas are denvers receivers the rank in the top 150. decker at 70 and thomas at 143.
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landshark0731
Posts: 273
Dec 20, 2011 1:20pm
Should be easy to read hook. Tebow stinks.Skyhook79;1021857 wrote:Speak English and maybe I can decipher what you are saying and wait until after recess is over too.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 20, 2011 1:21pm
You are using stats to fit your own argument. I'm not going to waste time proving you wrong, just to have you spin even more. Tebow is not a QB, get over it.Skyhook79;1021854 wrote:Eric Decker averages 4 YAC on his 43 receptions. Do you have any other stats you would like to throw against the wall to see if they stick?
#sleeperlosesagainagainagain LOL
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Dec 20, 2011 1:23pm
What stat would one use to determine Deckers average YAC? I am guessing his Average YAC stat.sleeper;1021864 wrote:You are using stats to fit your own argument. I'm not going to waste time proving you wrong, just to have you spin even more. Tebow is not a QB, get over it.
But I knew it would go right over your head.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 20, 2011 1:26pm
You have to use the ratio of YAC/Recieving yards. This gives you how many yards were earned by the receiver on his own, rather than from Tebow. Now, go find that one player on Team Tebow that has 30 yards receiving and only 1 YAC.Skyhook79;1021870 wrote:What stat would one use to determine Deckers average YAC? I am guessing his Average YAC stat.
But I knew it would go right over your head.
Enjoy!
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Dec 20, 2011 1:32pm
Someone needs to check IP's on sleeper and landshark. Pretty sure they match.sleeper;1021872 wrote:You have to use the ratio of YAC/Recieving yards. This gives you how many yards were earned by the receiver on his own, rather than from Tebow. Now, go find that one player on Team Tebow that has 30 yards receiving and only 1 YAC.
Enjoy!