sonofsam
Posts: 2,052
Aug 18, 2011 10:40pm
war_admiral;865809 wrote:Gee we were playing nice till post #27....DEFENDERS OF THE CRIMSON & THE BLACK.
do you want some cheese with that wine? for a self proclaimed military person you sure do fail with shining colors. Quick to give up the fort and delusional thoughts of ones adversary...
Spread All Day
Posts: 985
Aug 18, 2011 11:59pm
14-7 Cats. Hoping for some insight on the scrimmige from the Stuby posters...
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Thinthickbigred
Posts: 4,148
Aug 19, 2011 12:00am
Ohio;866908 wrote:If it was even close i feel bad The Big Red has to travel to youngstown to play ursuline this year.
I think we will be ready for YU
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Thinthickbigred
Posts: 4,148
Aug 19, 2011 12:01am
aaarrgghhhh LOl oh well scrimmage .. we might not have anything ...Spread All Day;867177 wrote:14-7 Cats. Hoping for some insight on the scrimmige from the Stuby posters...
Spread All Day
Posts: 985
Aug 19, 2011 12:15am
Thinthickbigred;867180 wrote:aaarrgghhhh LOl oh well scrimmage .. we might not have anything ...
I just want a brief synopsis.
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BTrev
Posts: 601
Aug 19, 2011 1:32am
From reading the Twitter page, it sounds like it could've gone anywhere from 17-7 Struthers, to a 7-7 tie, or even 0-7 in favor of Steubenville.
How did Struthers get their last TD? Throw us a bone here... how did the Cats look, for real?
It's hard not to make anything out of this... just a couple years ago, the Big Red could've hung up 35+ on the Cats, in a preview game. Tonight is definitely encouraging.
I know Steubenville doesn't like to tip their hand to anyone before the season starts, but is it really uncommon for Steubenville to lose Exhibition games like this? Would they rather keep everything G14 Classified and lose, or crack open the playbook a tad and send the crowd home happy?
How did Struthers get their last TD? Throw us a bone here... how did the Cats look, for real?
It's hard not to make anything out of this... just a couple years ago, the Big Red could've hung up 35+ on the Cats, in a preview game. Tonight is definitely encouraging.
I know Steubenville doesn't like to tip their hand to anyone before the season starts, but is it really uncommon for Steubenville to lose Exhibition games like this? Would they rather keep everything G14 Classified and lose, or crack open the playbook a tad and send the crowd home happy?
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BTrev
Posts: 601
Aug 19, 2011 2:41am
Don't take my comment the wrong way either. What Steubenville does works for them. I'm just trying to figure out if maybe the Big Red didn't hold back a bit, because tonight didn't count for anything.
Ohio
Posts: 897
Aug 19, 2011 5:33am
It was a scrimmage nobody is gonna throw everything they have including struthers.
reddevil90
Posts: 953
Aug 19, 2011 8:12am
All i got to say is WOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Thinthickbigred
Posts: 4,148
Aug 19, 2011 10:10am
looks liks a long season for Big Red .. I heard we were thin
reddevil90
Posts: 953
Aug 19, 2011 10:26am
Thinthickbigred;867356 wrote:looks liks a long season for Big Red .. I heard we were thin
I would not worry about it.. Big Red Is Big Red... Get a few wins starting week one and red will Roll as usual... I can see a 8-2... The coach you have is at his best with less talent... He will get the best our of everyone of those kids..
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I Am Ahab
Posts: 478
Aug 19, 2011 1:39pm
I don't think Big Red could care less about the score of a scrimmage game and would not tip their hand even with the threat of 'losing'.
That said, I see this being another down year by SHS standards. I would consider last year to be a down year for them, just to clarify.
The wild card is at QB. Sounds like this kid has a shot at being an improvement over what they had last season, but even still he's not going to be a Macon nor Collaros. I don't see the Red making it out of the region and maybe not making it to the reg final. Still a good year but not a threat to win state.
If they are going to overachieve their way to the top it will be by pounding the ball and playing shutdown D, which they are notorious for. A lot less fun to watch then they were from 05-09
That said, I see this being another down year by SHS standards. I would consider last year to be a down year for them, just to clarify.
The wild card is at QB. Sounds like this kid has a shot at being an improvement over what they had last season, but even still he's not going to be a Macon nor Collaros. I don't see the Red making it out of the region and maybe not making it to the reg final. Still a good year but not a threat to win state.
If they are going to overachieve their way to the top it will be by pounding the ball and playing shutdown D, which they are notorious for. A lot less fun to watch then they were from 05-09
Ohio
Posts: 897
Aug 19, 2011 2:49pm
From sources i have Struthers did not move the ball on the ground well at all.
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Thinthickbigred
Posts: 4,148
Aug 19, 2011 3:05pm
reddevil90;867373 wrote:I would not worry about it.. Big Red Is Big Red... Get a few wins starting week one and red will Roll as usual... I can see a 8-2... The coach you have is at his best with less talent... He will get the best our of everyone of those kids..
Ursulin is a loss Massillon is a loss Akron Buhctel will be favored Brooke it will be even money they may beat us .... Balt Mt St J will not be easy ... Even Morgantown will be tough .. sigh
ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Aug 19, 2011 3:17pm
reddevil90;867373 wrote:I would not worry about it.. Big Red Is Big Red... Get a few wins starting week one and red will Roll as usual... I can see a 8-2... The coach you have is at his best with less talent... He will get the best our of everyone of those kids..
At the same time, a coach like Reno and a team like Big Red can't use the "it was only a scrimmage" excuse. It was the last tuneup and while Struthers is pretty good, Big Red should plow them every time. Big Red may actually be down (for them) this year.
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BTrev
Posts: 601
Aug 19, 2011 3:20pm
I wouldn't expect either team to pull out the kitchen sink for a scrimmage, but they can still put forth an effort. Otherwise, what's the point in even having a scrimmage/preview game?
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Aug 19, 2011 3:28pm
BTrev;867672 wrote:I wouldn't expect either team to pull out the kitchen sink for a scrimmage, but they can still put forth an effort. Otherwise, what's the point in even having a scrimmage/preview game?
The scrimmage exists to get the team ready, not to entertain. If the coaches are satisfied with what they got from the scrimmage, that's all that matters.
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BTrev
Posts: 601
Aug 19, 2011 3:36pm
queencitybuckeye;867677 wrote:The scrimmage exists to get the team ready, not to entertain. If the coaches are satisfies with what they got from the scrimmage, that's all that matters.
You got me there.
Up until last night though, it was a "Preview Game," and now it's "just a scrimmage."
Tough sell.
ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Aug 19, 2011 4:39pm
Technically, it's a preview game, because the OHSAA says it is to be one.
Obviously the fans of the side who are underwhelmed with their team are going to make excuses, and the team that should have lost is going to probably have their heads held way too high for week 1, but such is life.
But that's just semantics. It's the third freaking scrimmage. You're still working out some kinks, but by and large you know what you have from the first two, which is why the OHSAA forces a "Mock Game" format upon the jamboree, because it's the next logical progression. While the teams still may run conservatively, you're still going to see a lot in a third scrimmage run in regulation format.[FONT="]A Jamboree is a third preseason football contest. It is intended to be conducted during the final three days of two-a –day practice sessions and serve as a “dress rehearsal” for the upcoming regular season game(s). In an ideal world, the game would be played in accordance with NFHS playing rules, i.e. four quarters, complete kicking game, regular clock rules and should involve all aspects of the football Friday Night experience. [/FONT]
Obviously the fans of the side who are underwhelmed with their team are going to make excuses, and the team that should have lost is going to probably have their heads held way too high for week 1, but such is life.
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Thinthickbigred
Posts: 4,148
Aug 19, 2011 4:45pm
didnt know the huge government body of the OHSAA made up these "who cares scrimmage rules" In any case 4-6 for the Big Red this year ...this stinks .. I am already sad Brooke will beat us for the first time ...aaaarrrrgggghhhhhhh gonna have to move down south ..cause thats where the big Red program is headed
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I Am Ahab
Posts: 478
Aug 19, 2011 5:02pm
^^^lighten up dude. Nobody is dogging SHS. For fuck sake can't anyone give an opinion without you acting like a little boy. Don't be so fuckin weird over a bunch of teenage boys or people are going to wonder about you.
ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Aug 19, 2011 5:38pm
Thinthickbigred;867735 wrote:didnt know the huge government body of the OHSAA made up these "who cares scrimmage rules"
OHSAA only does it for the Jamboree. It was basically a compromise in order for coaches to get a third scrimmage a few years back. In order to have the "jamboree" (third scrimmage) you have to pay the OHSAA $250 and it is strongly preferred to run it as a mock game.
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osund
Posts: 13
Aug 19, 2011 5:51pm
A buddy of mine said one of Steubenville's annual whipping boys Wheeling Park would actually give the Big Red a good game if they played this year.
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FairwoodKing
Posts: 2,504
Aug 19, 2011 7:20pm
osund;867785 wrote:A buddy of mine said one of Steubenville's annual whipping boys Wheeling Park would actually give the Big Red a good game if they played this year.
A few years ago Park went undefeated except for their loss to us. We still blew them out.
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FairwoodKing
Posts: 2,504
Aug 19, 2011 7:22pm
I remember back in 1983 when Reno was preparing for his first season as head coach. In the final scrimmage, we lost 19-0 to Alliance. Everyone was ready to throw Reno under the bus. He calmly said, "We'll be ready next week." Big Red went undefeated and made the playoffs.