grodt
Posts: 1,588
Jul 21, 2011 12:43pm
Gonna start this a day early cuz of a few tidbits that I didn't know where else to put.
First the rumor is that Valbuena is on his way back to CBus. No word on who is coming up to replace him but I wouldn't be surprised with Kipnis.
Second is the news that Grady Sizemore had abdominal surgery today to repair a sports hernia. 4 to 6 week recovery. He says he hurt it sliding back in May and it's bothered him every since.
As for this series, well every series with Central foes is huge from this point forward. We'll need another strong performance from Huff and the rest of the starters. I have faith that the Bullpen Mafia will put a rough Minny series behind them and continue their dominance.
First the rumor is that Valbuena is on his way back to CBus. No word on who is coming up to replace him but I wouldn't be surprised with Kipnis.
Second is the news that Grady Sizemore had abdominal surgery today to repair a sports hernia. 4 to 6 week recovery. He says he hurt it sliding back in May and it's bothered him every since.
As for this series, well every series with Central foes is huge from this point forward. We'll need another strong performance from Huff and the rest of the starters. I have faith that the Bullpen Mafia will put a rough Minny series behind them and continue their dominance.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jul 21, 2011 12:46pm
Maybe I'm off but it seems like the White Sox own us.
If the front office doesn't get some offensive help in here, QUICKLY, we're in trouble. I don't have good feelings about this series.
If the front office doesn't get some offensive help in here, QUICKLY, we're in trouble. I don't have good feelings about this series.
royal_k
Posts: 4,423
Jul 21, 2011 1:14pm
With Grady being out for a month or better, it is imperative the FO bring in someone fast. If Beltran and Pence are out of the question, they need to look hard at getting Francoeur. He would be the next best option.
iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Jul 21, 2011 1:16pm
We need someone badly. The outfield is a complete joke without Choo and Grady. Oh and they have no chance of beating Chicago and I'm sure we'll end the season in the basement of the division.
grodt
Posts: 1,588
Jul 21, 2011 4:55pm
The only reason I would think it wouldn't be Kipnis is if they want another OFer and bring up Jered Head instead. I don't think they'll bring up Kipnis and put him in the outfield.
grodt
Posts: 1,588
Jul 21, 2011 5:12pm
Jason Kipnis just posted on his twitter that he's being brought up to Cleveland.
iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Jul 21, 2011 5:57pm
It'll be interesting to see what they do with Kipnis. He has to play, so either Orlando is sitting or he goes to the OF, which I was told he was drafted at. (I put this on the other thread about Beltran too).
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Jul 21, 2011 7:17pm
he'll swap places with DuncanFirst the rumor is that Valbuena is on his way back to CBus. No word on who is coming up to replace him but I wouldn't be surprised with Kipnis.
fragile and his time has come---trade baitSecond is the news that Grady Sizemore had abdominal surgery today to repair a sports hernia. 4 to 6 week recovery. He says he hurt it sliding back in May and it's bothered him every since.
Tribe takes 1 of 3, which ain't too bad considering they're playing the ChiSoxAs for this series, well every series with Central foes is huge from this point forward. We'll need another strong performance from Huff and the rest of the starters. I have faith that the Bullpen Mafia will put a rough Minny series behind them and continue their dominance.
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september63
Posts: 5,789
Jul 21, 2011 7:55pm
Grady isnt trade bait for the same reason Fausto isnt. To much money tied up with each player for too long.
september63
Posts: 5,789
Jul 21, 2011 8:01pm
Grady isnt trade bait for the same reason Fausto isnt. To much money tied up with each player for too long.
september63
Posts: 5,789
Jul 21, 2011 8:01pm
Grady isnt trade bait for the same reason Fausto isnt. To much money tied up with each player for too long.
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slingshot4ever
Posts: 4,085
Jul 21, 2011 8:02pm
My White Sox need a sweep to stay in the Central race after dropping two games to the Royals. Offense hasn't been showing up recently.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Jul 21, 2011 8:13pm
Anyone know if Grady is trade bait? If not, why?
Valbuena is just the worst player. So glad he's gone. Looking forward to seeing Kipnis.
Valbuena is just the worst player. So glad he's gone. Looking forward to seeing Kipnis.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Jul 21, 2011 8:18pm
september63;837126 wrote:Grady isnt trade bait for the same reason Fausto isnt. To much money tied up with each player for too long.
september63;837128 wrote:Grady isnt trade bait for the same reason Fausto isnt. To much money tied up with each player for too long.
september63;837129 wrote:Grady isnt trade bait for the same reason Fausto isnt. To much money tied up with each player for too long.
ok, ok, ok, I get your point...I don't agree with you (see Rodriguez, Alex), but that's just me
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slingshot4ever
Posts: 4,085
Jul 21, 2011 8:43pm
My White Sox need a sweep to stay in the Central race after dropping two games to the Royals. Offense hasn't been showing up recently.
Tigerfan00
Posts: 3,427
Jul 21, 2011 8:49pm
5 of the 15 posts are duplicates, is there really a need for that?
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Jul 21, 2011 9:24pm
I'm not one who normally would say that anyone series at this point in the year is critical, but I think this one...and this homestand in particular is a fork in the road. They had a chance to really bury the Twins, and blew it. Now the Chi Sox come into town followed by the Angels. Things could go south in a real hurry. These are young players and emotions will be high. I'm not sure the shuttle to CBus is the answer for staying on top of the pack. Too many games have been given away by Acta putting out some absolutely horrible line-ups on the field, and by paralysis in the front office to make a deal for a hitter that could have helped LAST MONTH. They are going to have to trade somebody of value...and the situation worsens by the day as injuries pile up and the Indians desperate need becomes more acute and obvious.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jul 22, 2011 10:56am
vball10set;837144 wrote:ok, ok, ok, I get your point...I don't agree with you (see Rodriguez, Alex), but that's just me
Terrible example. A-Rod at the time of his trade, was the best player in the game. Well worth the investment for a team that could handle the payroll.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Jul 22, 2011 11:02am
Laley23;837596 wrote:Terrible example. A-Rod at the time of his trade, was the best player in the game. Well worth the investment for a team that could handle the payroll.
thanks, laley-lol...my point was that monies being paid to someone is not necessarily a reason that they wouldn't be trade bait...you P'burgers are an ornery group, ain't ya'!!!
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jul 22, 2011 11:55am
vball10set;837612 wrote:thanks, laley-lol...my point was that monies being paid to someone is not necessarily a reason that they wouldn't be trade bait...you P'burgers are an ornery group, ain't ya'!!!
Right, but Im saying most teams who can afford that payroll look at the payoff and see it as a positive. NO one is going to look at Grady on their payroll and think its a positive payoff. Even if you have money to spend like the Yankees, they wouldnt invest in Sizemore.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Jul 22, 2011 11:58am
Laley23;837689 wrote:Right, but Im saying most teams who can afford that payroll look at the payoff and see it as a positive. NO one is going to look at Grady on their payroll and think its a positive payoff. Even if you have money to spend like the Yankees, they wouldnt invest in Sizemore.
I beg to differ, and I guess we'll just have to wait and see...teams have paid more for less, that's for sure
BRF
Posts: 8,748
Jul 22, 2011 11:59am
I agree with Hits that this series will be a fork in the road. The unwillingness of the FO to not make any moves yet baffles me.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jul 22, 2011 12:06pm
vball10set;837693 wrote:I beg to differ, and I guess we'll just have to wait and see...teams have paid more for less, that's for sure
I know. Maybe it was a bad example, cause teams are dumb. But the reason a trade will be made is much different than with A-Rod.
Also, I dont think a player on the DL can be traded right? Or is that not the case in baseball?
grodt
Posts: 1,588
Jul 22, 2011 12:12pm
I thought that was the case as well but I did a quick Google search and it doesn't seem like there is any rule against trading a DL player.
grodt
Posts: 1,588
Jul 22, 2011 12:13pm
BRF;837696 wrote:I agree with Hits that this series will be a fork in the road. The unwillingness of the FO to not make any moves yet baffles me.
I think the FO will make a move before the deadline but I think it's been hard up to this point because so many teams were within striking distance in their divisions is was hard to tell who the sellers were. As we get closer teams will have to decide and players might become available that weren't a week ago. I'm ok with the FO holding out if it means they get a good deal.