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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Jul 23, 2011 2:21pm
I wouldn't either this year.devil1197;838917 wrote:Agreed.
Dolan is a **** and won't want to take on any extra salary even if it only means giving up marginal prospects.
royal_k
Posts: 4,423
Jul 23, 2011 2:55pm
Con_Alma;838966 wrote:I wouldn't either this year.
Why not? This year the Central Division is up for grabs. This is the time to make your team better. You have to be proactive.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Jul 23, 2011 3:09pm
I guess my sights are a little higher than the central division.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jul 23, 2011 3:52pm
Con_Alma;839023 wrote:I guess my sights are a little higher than the central division.
Yeah, we're definitely different here.
I'm not one of those "play it close to the vest/conservatives" who'd rather see "competitive baseball over the next 5 years" versus a championship. Give me ONE fucking ring and Dolan can go all "Florida Marlins" (blow it up) for all I care.
It's ALL about the hardware, not "being competitive" only to shit in your hat year in and year out. We've seen the "we can't mortgage the future (our beloved prospects)" in 2005 & 2007 and exactly where did THAT get us? Oh yeah, with shitastic, disappointments in 2006 & 2008.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Jul 23, 2011 4:08pm
I just smh at these clowns running the tribe can someone call Dan Gilbert or Cuban?
ohiobucks1
Posts: 4,915
Jul 23, 2011 4:11pm
Crimson streak;839085 wrote:I just smh at these clowns running the tribe can someone call Dan Gilbert or Cuban?
Amen
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jul 23, 2011 4:16pm
Crimson streak;839085 wrote:I just smh at these clowns running the tribe can someone call Dan Gilbert or Cuban?
Dolan will never sell. He gets too much enjoyment out of making Cleveland fans suffer. Starting to wonder if he's Satan....
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Jul 23, 2011 4:21pm
BR1986FB;839094 wrote:Dolan will never sell. He gets too much enjoyment out of making Cleveland fans suffer. Starting to wonder if he's Satan....
Haha his problem is he bought the team for too much money from the Jacobs and doesn't have money to spend
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sportswizuhrd
Posts: 3,215
Jul 23, 2011 4:24pm
Who would you Indian fans consider giving up for BJ Upton? Rosenthal said on the FOX pregame that the Indians are interested.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jul 23, 2011 4:27pm
Crimson streak;839097 wrote:Haha his problem is he bought the team for too much money from the Jacobs and doesn't have money to spend
Oh, I know. It's like dating a stripper. Some dudes like the concept of "being with a pole dancer." (Don't get it but some dudes are like that). Dolan likes the concept of "being a MLB owner" yet he doesn't want to invest to be a successful one.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Jul 23, 2011 4:28pm
The Indians may be interested but they won't do shit. But I would give up anyone but Kipnis, chiz, drew and white
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Jul 23, 2011 4:51pm
Con_Alma;839023 wrote:I guess my sights are a little higher than the central division.
If I interpret what you are getting at correctly, then I agree with this view competitively, but not financially.
While the Central may be (obviously is) up for grabs, there isn't anybody available out there that is going to make this team a World Series threat. They just don't have the ability of the Yankees, Red Sox, or Phillies (or Giants, or Braves). So from a competitive standpoint I don't see the reason to go after a 1/2 season rent-a-player, because while winning a division is nice, they won't win it all, and it isn't worth hedging the future over.
That said, winning a division would be huge in terms of generating fan interest and increasing revenues for next season, especially if the NBA ends up missing the whole year. Not making any moves at all and missing out on the playoffs will just disgruntle the fan base even more.
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Jul 23, 2011 5:01pm
gerb131;838821 wrote:I enjoy you guys leaving them down here. Clippers are like 13 games up in their divison and there is a lot of talent here that prob could help the Indians or at least make good trade bait.
Clippers have alot of AAAA guys...Casey Blakes galore
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Jul 23, 2011 6:48pm
Instead of a big bat OF how about a big bat 3rd baseman with aramis ramirez being available?
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Jul 23, 2011 7:07pm
Crimson streak;839294 wrote:Instead of a big bat OF how about a big bat 3rd baseman with aramis ramirez being available?
that would be great, but no way cheapass Dolan takes on his contract and gives up on cheap prospects.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Jul 23, 2011 8:43pm
BJ sucks. Get it? Figure out a way to get the other Upton. Money.sportswizuhrd;839103 wrote:Who would you Indian fans consider giving up for BJ Upton? Rosenthal said on the FOX pregame that the Indians are interested.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Jul 23, 2011 8:47pm
Tribe has the wost corner infielders collectively in baseball. I just don't think adding someone this year will get us to the promised land.
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september63
Posts: 5,789
Jul 23, 2011 10:57pm
Footwedge;839384 wrote:Tribe has the wost corner infielders collectively in baseball. I just don't think adding someone this year will get us to the promised land.
Jack Hanahan has a good glove. So when he is on the bag your statement is way off!!
september63
Posts: 5,789
Jul 23, 2011 10:58pm
Crimson streak;839294 wrote:Instead of a big bat OF how about a big bat 3rd baseman with aramis ramirez being available?
Would NOT want him for average money!!!
disco stu
Posts: 26
Jul 24, 2011 2:25am
If you can get in, anything can happen. Go tribe
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Jul 24, 2011 8:35am
I agree with this. I think we disagree on how to get that ring. The combination of what the Indians are right now and what is going to be available out there isn't going to win a championship. Pulling the trigger now will not get you that ring. It isn't about being competitive for five years. It is about winning the ring. It isn't going to happen this year no matter who you bring in.BR1986FB;839065 wrote:Yeah, we're definitely different here.
I'm not one of those "play it close to the vest/conservatives" who'd rather see "competitive baseball over the next 5 years" versus a championship. Give me ONE ****ing ring and Dolan can go all "Florida Marlins" (blow it up) for all I care.
It's ALL about the hardware, not "being competitive" only to **** in your hat year in and year out. We've seen the "we can't mortgage the future (our beloved prospects)" in 2005 & 2007 and exactly where did THAT get us? Oh yeah, with ****astic, disappointments in 2006 & 2008.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Jul 24, 2011 8:36am
Jack Hanahan is excellent defensively!!!! I agree. Footwedge missed the mark with his statement.september63;839454 wrote:Jack Hanahan has a good glove. So when he is on the bag your statement is way off!!
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Jul 24, 2011 8:38am
This is right on.Mulva;839142 wrote:...
While the Central may be (obviously is) up for grabs, there isn't anybody available out there that is going to make this team a World Series threat. ... because while winning a division is nice, they won't win it all, ...
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KR1245
Posts: 4,317
Jul 24, 2011 8:48am
disco stu;839539 wrote:If you can get in, anything can happen. Go tribe
I agree with this
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Con_Alma
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Jul 24, 2011 8:54am
KR1245;839580 wrote:I agree with this
I think most everyone agrees with it.