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Aug 14, 2013 9:12pm
Fab1b;1487140 wrote:Mexico/Ivory Coast on ESPN2 now
Always nice to see Mexico lose. But I almost want them to win friendlies and shit so they dont sack the coach.
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Aug 14, 2013 9:15pm
CIV Just gives up an own goal
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Aug 14, 2013 9:17pm
Wow those tickets for September 10th are insane. If I can get a $100 ticket I would buy that up in a heartbeat, $290 is steep
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Aug 14, 2013 9:23pm
Classyposter58;1487148 wrote:Wow those tickets for September 10th are insane. If I can get a $100 ticket I would buy that up in a heartbeat, $290 is steep

Yeah, definitely gotten pricey. I really want to go but $290 is a lot.
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Aug 14, 2013 9:26pm
Terry_Tate;1487153 wrote:Yeah, definitely gotten pricey. I really want to go but $290 is a lot.
Maybe scalping is the way to go? I'm thinking there's a chance to get in for 2-300 for two seats. That kinda money is like OSU-UM or World Series prices
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Aug 14, 2013 9:29pm
Mexicans will be all over Crew Stadium. Scalping might not drop the price a whole lot.
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Aug 15, 2013 12:23am
If no one saw the statistics, Bradley connected 92 of 100 passes against Bosnia.
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Aug 15, 2013 12:33am
Classyposter58;1487156 wrote:Maybe scalping is the way to go? I'm thinking there's a chance to get in for 2-300 for two seats. That kinda money is like OSU-UM or World Series prices

Paid 450 for a ticket to 06 osu michigan game. Worth every penny
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Aug 15, 2013 9:01am
OSH;1487204 wrote:If no one saw the statistics, Bradley connected 92 of 100 passes against Bosnia.
I'm assuming that's very good as I watched the game and he made a lot happen leading to goals.

But as far as passing attempts/success how is that for a game for someone playing his position?

I honestly didn't even know people kept track of statistics like that for soccer, but I guess with statistics becoming more prominent in every sport to analyze games it's inevitable.
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Aug 15, 2013 10:12am
That is a very good stat line in regards to passing.
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Aug 15, 2013 10:43am
Automatik;1487293 wrote:That is a very good stat line in regards to passing.
I wasn't clear in my previous question, what is an bad/average/good % of successful passes for someone playing his position?
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Aug 15, 2013 10:47am
I honestly wouldn't know for sure. I'd say anything above 80% is solid when you're seeing the ball that much.
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Aug 15, 2013 10:57am
92% is pretty damn good. Last year in the EPL, the league leaders were around 92% for the season.
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Aug 15, 2013 11:03am
Xavi (for Barcelona and Spain) is constantly leading the free universe in that stat. He usually has about 90 and is usually connecting on over 95%. I think he was 96/96 a few months ago versus PSG. Xavi was (some argue still is) the best CM in the world. So for Bradley to be on the same scale is a big compliment.

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Aug 15, 2013 11:17am
Laley23;1487325 wrote:Xavi (for Barcelona and Spain) is constantly leading the free universe in that stat. He usually has about 90 and is usually connecting on over 95%. I think he was 96/96 a few months ago versus PSG. Xavi was (some argue still is) the best CM in the world. So for Bradley to be on the same scale is a big compliment.

Thanks a lot, that's exactly the kind of thing I was looking for. What clip does Bradley normally hit at?

Also, are %'s usually higher or lower for players playing for a club as opposed to their national team or is a person's accuracy relatively similar?

Sorry for the questions, but I have never followed soccer closely (mainly just world cup in the Summer when it rolls around). I did play a lot as a kid, but I haven't been too much of a spectator.
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Aug 15, 2013 11:29am
Fly4Fun;1487339 wrote:Thanks a lot, that's exactly the kind of thing I was looking for. What clip does Bradley normally hit at?

Also, are %'s usually higher or lower for players playing for a club as opposed to their national team or is a person's accuracy relatively similar?

Sorry for the questions, but I have never followed soccer closely (mainly just world cup in the Summer when it rolls around). I did play a lot as a kid, but I haven't been too much of a spectator.
It depends on the nationality of the player. A guy like Xavi or Busquets will be about the same because like Barcelona on the club side, Spain dominates opponents. So they have the ball at their feet the same amount of time, and the quality of their teammates is on par to what it is at Barcelona.

A guy like Yaya Toure will see it drop when he plays for country because he is playing for Man City as a club which is top 3 in the EPL...but on the national side he plays for Ivory Coast. One of the better African nations for sure, but still nowhere near the quality of talent that Man City can assemble around him.


As far as Bradley goes average wise, I honestly have no idea. My guess is this performance was one of his best ever though. USA doesnt have the ball as much as the teams in the graph above, so to even attempt 90 passes is pretty remarkable. Shows how active he was. Percentage wise, he is usually pretty good because he is smart and doesnt force it. But he still wouldnt be that good typically.
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Aug 15, 2013 11:38am
Laley23;1487348 wrote:It depends on the nationality of the player. A guy like Xavi or Busquets will be about the same because like Barcelona on the club side, Spain dominates opponents. So they have the ball at their feet the same amount of time, and the quality of their teammates is on par to what it is at Barcelona.

A guy like Yaya Toure will see it drop when he plays for country because he is playing for Man City as a club which is top 3 in the EPL...but on the national side he plays for Ivory Coast. One of the better African nations for sure, but still nowhere near the quality of talent that Man City can assemble around him.


As far as Bradley goes average wise, I honestly have no idea. My guess is this performance was one of his best ever though. USA doesnt have the ball as much as the teams in the graph above, so to even attempt 90 passes is pretty remarkable. Shows how active he was. Percentage wise, he is usually pretty good because he is smart and doesnt force it. But he still wouldnt be that good typically.
One more question about yesterday's game...

I know in friendly's teams don't play at full strength (also Bosnia subbed out 5-6 at half), but was that a A/B hybrid squad for both or were they playing a relatively weaker or stronger line-up than we did?
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Aug 15, 2013 11:51am
Fly4Fun;1487357 wrote:One more question about yesterday's game...

I know in friendly's teams don't play at full strength (also Bosnia subbed out 5-6 at half), but was that a A/B hybrid squad for both or were they playing a relatively weaker or stronger line-up than we did?
It was about even. We didnt have Landon or Clint (arguably our 2 best...but easily 2 of the 4 best). They had Edin Dzeko who is their best and plays for Man City as well as their other top players. But they subbed out a few of their guys where we played Altidore and Bradley all game.

So, overall Id say even in how the game was approached. They had their squad closer to A, while we left off a few guys. But we seemed to take it more serious with subs...
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Aug 15, 2013 1:38pm
Fly4Fun;1487357 wrote:One more question about yesterday's game...

I know in friendly's teams don't play at full strength (also Bosnia subbed out 5-6 at half), but was that a A/B hybrid squad for both or were they playing a relatively weaker or stronger line-up than we did?
Bosnia is also ranked #13 in the world FIFA rankings. In order to be that high, they have some success -- one may think/say.

Friendlies are all about getting players experience and prepping for certain competitions. This time around for the USMNT, they didn't take but 2 MLSers (EJ and Brad Evans, both from Seattle). All other players were playing abroad, and two even got their first USMNT appearances with the senior team. I think the commentators were saying that so far, Jurgen has called up 70-some different players for the opportunity to play with the Yanks. I think within the 70-some there have been 17+ players get their first appearances under Jurgen.
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Aug 17, 2013 9:34am
Mignolet endearing himself to his new club, saves a PK in the final 5 minutes and L'pool has the first 3 points of the season.
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Aug 17, 2013 9:35am
Great finish there!
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Aug 17, 2013 10:41am
Lets go villains!!
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Aug 17, 2013 11:25am
lol this is some bullshit.

Week 1, already pissed off.
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Aug 17, 2013 11:30am
Wow, that give and go was sick.
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Aug 17, 2013 11:58am
My god Arsenal blows.