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Jun 28, 2011 7:52 AM
Showdown! Cueto vs Price

I'm going in big vbookie style to make sure the Reds win......you want big fake bucks....go opposite, just like the Reds should do.
Jun 28, 2011 7:52am
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Jun 28, 2011 8:22 AM
Miiiiight have to go watch this one.

Cueto vs Price is big time
Jun 28, 2011 8:22am
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Jun 28, 2011 8:32 AM
Go lay a couple vthousand on the Reds
Jun 28, 2011 8:32am
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Jun 28, 2011 9:30 AM
About time for JC to lay an egg.

Plus...reds wont win two in a row on the road
Jun 28, 2011 9:30am
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Jun 28, 2011 10:27 AM
How many innings does Cueto have to pitch to qualify as a league leader??
Jun 28, 2011 10:27am
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Jun 28, 2011 11:10 AM
Good question. I know hitting it used to always bee 3.1 AB per game played for the team to be included.

In looking at the leader board....the lowest IP is 73, and cueto is at 60.2 so he is getting close.


If he stays in the rotation he will most likely be eligible to be on the lisit soon.
Jun 28, 2011 11:10am
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Jun 28, 2011 11:15 AM
Cueto will be your 2011 NL Cy Young winner. Book it.
Jun 28, 2011 11:15am
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Jun 28, 2011 11:16 AM
http://www.baseball-reference.com/about/leader_glossary.shtml


States an inning per games played for the team.

Winning Percentage

The minimum number of decisions is the number of team games that season multiplied by 0.098 rounded up to the nearest integer. For seasons with 162 games this will require 16 decisions.
ERA, BB/9, H/9, SO/9, etc., etc.

One inning pitched per team game that season rounded to the nearest integer.




I also forgot about the one about at bats. At the end of a season a hitter could qualify for a title even if he does not have enough at bats. What happens is they add hitless at bats to get you to that minimum, if you still have the highest avg or whatnot..you can still win the title.
Jun 28, 2011 11:16am
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Jun 28, 2011 11:21 AM
If he averages 7IP per start I think 7-8 starts will get him to that threshold.
If he averages 6 IP it would take him around 14 starts.

Now, that is if he pitches every 5th game. There could be times he pitches on a 4th game if there is an off day and they skip a guy in the rotation. It wouldnt change it by much at all though.
Jun 28, 2011 11:21am
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Jun 28, 2011 12:54 PM
He keeps pitching without any DL stints and he'll be there near mid July......he'll be way over when it's all done....barring injury
Jun 28, 2011 12:54pm
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Jun 28, 2011 1:25 PM
Ironman92;816315 wrote:He keeps pitching without any DL stints and he'll be there near mid July......he'll be way over when it's all done....barring injury

If he averages 7 IP /game it will take him like 7-8 starts, which is 35-40 team games, which would make it mid August at the earliers
Jun 28, 2011 1:25pm
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Jun 28, 2011 4:17 PM
Tonight...game 81.....so 68 after tonight

Game 86...he'll have aaround 75
Game 91...he'll have around 82
Game 96..he'll have around 90
Game 101..he'll have around 97
Game 106..he'll have around 104
Game 111...he'll be right on it....might take until game 116 for the Reds....if it takes him longer than that he'll either be injured or not doing good enough to worry about leading the league in anything good.

Game #111 is July 28th
Jun 28, 2011 4:17pm
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Jun 28, 2011 4:31 PM
Brace yourself!

1. Heisey LF
2. Phillips 2B
3. Votto DH
4. Renteria 1B
5. Rolen 3B
6. Bruce RF
7. Gomes CF
8. Hernandez C
9. Janish SS
Jun 28, 2011 4:31pm
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Jun 28, 2011 4:32 PM
JK......Renteria is hitting 9th and playing SS....Gomes is the DH batting 6th....Stubbs in CF batting 8th
Jun 28, 2011 4:32pm
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Jun 28, 2011 4:43 PM
Chris Heisey 7
Brandon Phillips 4
Joey Votto 3
Scott Rolen 5
Jay Bruce 9
Jonny Gomes DH
Ramon Hernandez 2
Drew Stubbs 8
Edgar Renteria 6

If this lineup stays under 10Ks they will win. I predict 14
Jun 28, 2011 4:43pm
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Jun 28, 2011 4:54 PM
Heisey 2
Phillips 1
Votto 1
Rolen 1
Bruce 1
Gomes 1
Hernandez 0
Stubbs 2
Renteria 0

I'm going with 9.....from those 9 players.
Jun 28, 2011 4:54pm
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Jun 28, 2011 4:57 PM
Ironman92;816488 wrote:Tonight...game 81.....so 68 after tonight

Game 86...he'll have aaround 75
Game 91...he'll have around 82
Game 96..he'll have around 90
Game 101..he'll have around 97
Game 106..he'll have around 104
Game 111...he'll be right on it....might take until game 116 for the Reds....if it takes him longer than that he'll either be injured or not doing good enough to worry about leading the league in anything good.

Game #111 is July 28th

Yeah..that is what I had....unsure how I fucked up that tho
Jun 28, 2011 4:57pm
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Jun 28, 2011 5:18 PM
Chris Heisey 7
Brandon Phillips 4
Joey Votto 3
Scott Rolen 5
Jay Bruce 9
Jonny Gomes DH
Ramon Hernandez 2
Drew Stubbs 8
Edgar Renteria 6

If this lineup stays under 10Ks they will win. I predict 14
Anybody else's mind boggled as to how Stubbs can go from hitting leadoff to hitting 8th? Haha I wonder if anybody has had Dusty explain that?

Just doesn't make a lick of sense. That's Dusty for you.
Jun 28, 2011 5:18pm
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Jun 28, 2011 5:51 PM
Stubbs since May 1st. .319 OBP and 76 K's in 217 at-bats. It's tough to move him up in the lineup with those ratios, especially in a park with the DH. In that same time, he's has only 18 walks, so it's not like we have a guy who's a patient swinger here...
Jun 28, 2011 5:51pm
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Jun 28, 2011 5:58 PM
I'm not saying he should be a leadoff guy. I have been saying he needed out of that spot all year. I just find it hilarious he goes from leadoff to 8th. Pretty big extremes
Jun 28, 2011 5:58pm
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Jun 28, 2011 6:11 PM
I think he's definitely not ready for the leadoff spot either, but he was probably the best option and he started off fairly well, around .340 OBP in April and less than a 3:1 K to BB ratio. However, as his contact has lessened and that ratio is now over 4:1, it probably justifies moving him back. I actually think he is a perfect 8th hitter in an AL lineup, but not nearly patient enough to bat 8th on a regular basis.
Jun 28, 2011 6:11pm
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Jun 28, 2011 6:27 PM
I think he's definitely not ready for the leadoff spot either, but he was probably the best option and he started off fairly well, around .340 OBP in April and less than a 3:1 K to BB ratio. However, as his contact has lessened and that ratio is now over 4:1, it probably justifies moving him back. I actually think he is a perfect 8th hitter in an AL lineup, but not nearly patient enough to bat 8th on a regular basis.
I just don't follow Dusty's logic. One day you think he is one of your better hitters and the next he is hitting in front of a light hitting shortstop towards the bottom of the lineup.

Gotta love Dusty-isms
Jun 28, 2011 6:27pm
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Jun 28, 2011 6:35 PM
I see what you mean. The move from one extreme to the other is baffling. However, it would be nice if they would right other extremes, like bringing up Zack Cozart or trading for a shortstop.
Jun 28, 2011 6:35pm
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Jun 28, 2011 7:26 PM
This strike zone for price is an absolute joke!!!!!
Jun 28, 2011 7:26pm
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Jun 28, 2011 7:26 PM
Jesus...price is mowin em down
Jun 28, 2011 7:26pm