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                                Jun 27, 2011 9:16am
                            
                        
                                Leake vs Hellickson (7-6, 3.09 ERA)
 
Reds might want to show up tonight because they face Price and Shields the next 2.
                        Reds might want to show up tonight because they face Price and Shields the next 2.
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                                Jun 27, 2011 9:19am
                            
                        
                                Lol
                            
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                                Jun 27, 2011 9:20am
                            
                        
                                They'll either beat Price or have 14 K
                            
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                                Jun 27, 2011 9:25am
                            
                        
                                Sweep
                            
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                                Jun 27, 2011 9:40am
                            
                        
                                For which team?
                            
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                                Jun 27, 2011 9:51am
                            
                        
                                the Rays lol
                            
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                                Jun 27, 2011 10:30am
                            
                        
                                Rays take 2 of 3.
                            
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                                Jun 27, 2011 12:05pm
                            
                        
                                Could be another rough series
                            
                        
                                        
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                                Jun 27, 2011 2:44pm
                            
                        
                                If the Reds lose this series they'll be down to 0.500 or less!  Need to start methodically winning series.  Since they swept the Dodgers, they've lost all 3 series, but fortunately none by being swept.
                            
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                                Jun 27, 2011 2:50pm
                            
                        
                                Man, thats tough. Have to face the top 3 pitchers for the Rays. 2 of which are in the early Cy Young debate!
 
Top righty (Shields)????
Top lefty (Price)????
                        Top righty (Shields)????
Top lefty (Price)????
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                                Jun 27, 2011 3:15pm
                            
                        
                                They'll beat one of them....now if I had never heard of them and they top out at 89 with lille movement...I would never make such a bold statement
                            
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                                Jun 27, 2011 3:23pm
                            
                        Ironman92;815313 wrote:They'll beat one of them....now if I had never heard of them and they top out at 89 with lille movement...I would never make such a bold statement
That's like Pittsburgh. Against Boston over the weekend, they beat Jon Lester. They beat Tim Wakefield (not great, but he's been around forever as a competent mid/low rotation guy). They lost to Andrew Miller, making his second appearance of the year and "boasting" a career 5.5ish ERA.
                                        
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                                Jun 27, 2011 3:38pm
                            
                        
                                Reds win 1 of 3 in this series.
                            
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                                Jun 27, 2011 3:47pm
                            
                        I've never understood that about this team, but it's very true. You'd have to think it's a concentration thing??Ironman92;815313 wrote:They'll beat one of them....now if I had never heard of them and they top out at 89 with lille movement...I would never make such a bold statement
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                                Jun 27, 2011 4:58pm
                            
                        
                                It's a self-motivation/focus thing.....that and their plate approaches are pretty good for pitchers with good stuff....but not for pitchers that can't rely on their stuff alone.
Hopefully, the Rays have crappy scouts and throw everyone so they can pull jerk it.
                        Hopefully, the Rays have crappy scouts and throw everyone so they can pull jerk it.
                                        
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                                Jun 27, 2011 5:03pm
                            
                        
                                I think it comes down to this team being a power hitting team.  Power hitters tend to have a little harder time with softer throwers and such.   Even guys like BP many times think they are power hitters and try to jerk it too hard.
Greg Maddux said once that against the best power hitters he would go soft, softer, and softer.
A softer thrower doesnt wow a hitter. When a pitcher doesnt wow a hitter then they tend to have a little bit less focused I guess.
                        Greg Maddux said once that against the best power hitters he would go soft, softer, and softer.
A softer thrower doesnt wow a hitter. When a pitcher doesnt wow a hitter then they tend to have a little bit less focused I guess.
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                                Jun 27, 2011 5:57pm
                            
                        
                                They are mostly doubles hitters trying to be HR hitters...again, back to the poor approaches. No team that I can ever remember has taken such wild wails at balls trying to hit 2nd deckers.....5 or 6 of them are Reggie Jackson swingers with Reggie Sanders power....if that.
                            
                        
                                        
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                                Jun 27, 2011 7:07pm
                            
                        
                                This is an interesting lineup, can't blame Dusty this year for trying to find the right lineup.
                            
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                                Jun 27, 2011 7:13pm
                            
                        
                                Mind posting it dave for the less fortunate?
                            
                        SportsAndLady
                                                                            
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                                Jun 27, 2011 7:14pm
                            
                        
                                Whoops nvm its 7. Didn't realize that...this game starts right now right? I can bring up the gamecast and look now if so.
                            
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                                Jun 27, 2011 7:23pm
                            
                        
                                Lewis hit, Phillips double....Reds score first
                            
                        
                                        
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                                Jun 27, 2011 7:25pm
                            
                        
                                BP gets away with bad baserunning!  He was hung out to dry if Longoria just makes the play on him.  The bobble got him too excited to make the play to get the lead runner.  And it cost the Rays a run.  2-0 Reds.  Big two out hit for Bruce.
                            
                        
                                        
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                                Jun 27, 2011 7:27pm
                            
                        
                                What a refreshing start.  Lots of hard hit balls including outs.
                            
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                                Jun 27, 2011 7:29pm
                            
                        
                                Is cueto pitching this series?
                            
                        
                                        
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                                                                dave
                                                                            
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                                Jun 27, 2011 7:33pm
                            
                        
                                Cueto is tomorrow vs Price.  Not sure why some thought he was going tonight, it's Leake's turn.