ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Oct 25, 2011 12:18am
You could argue no possession with the right hand while the left foot is down. Either way, they still lost, so who gives a shit.Laley23;944408 wrote:I literally dont see what you are looking at. I really find it comical that you were able to see clearly in live action....
And what the hell are you talking about with left foot is on the other leg or whatever I read?
Non
Posts: 9,517
Oct 25, 2011 12:19am
We'll agree to disagree.
Good game.
Happy with the outcome.
Good game.
Happy with the outcome.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Oct 25, 2011 12:21am
Yeah, I still think they are by far the best team in the AFC North...but losses like this make you scratch your head.bigdaddy2003;944420 wrote:True. I'm just glad this game is over with. Ha I expect a better performance next weekend.
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I Am Ahab
Posts: 478
Oct 25, 2011 12:21am
I know Flaccos receivers have a history of not helping him, dropping balls and what not. However, you really have to wonder about his ability to lead Baltimore anywhere. He just doesn't seem to have IT.
I didn't get to see much of the game tonight, so idk if you can pin it all on Flacco or if it was a combo of good D, poor WR play, and Flaccos ineptitude but I wonder if the Ravens are going to start thinking about the future of the QB position and whether or not Flacco is a part of it.
It's hard to think there is much hope for them when their biggest rival and top competition, Pissburgh, is basically a mirror image of them but with a much, much, much better QB.
Maybe trade for Tebow.
I didn't get to see much of the game tonight, so idk if you can pin it all on Flacco or if it was a combo of good D, poor WR play, and Flaccos ineptitude but I wonder if the Ravens are going to start thinking about the future of the QB position and whether or not Flacco is a part of it.
It's hard to think there is much hope for them when their biggest rival and top competition, Pissburgh, is basically a mirror image of them but with a much, much, much better QB.
Maybe trade for Tebow.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Oct 25, 2011 12:22am
Go back and watch the other angle though, the one where he is facing the camera. It hits his right hand, and then once he gets the left hand on it (as in above photo) the ball doesnt move till he hits ground. I mean he brings it in to secure it, but it isnt moving in his hands.ts1227;944421 wrote:You could argue no possession with the right hand while the left foot is down. Either way, they still lost, so who gives a shit.
It was a catch based on feet and possession until the ground forced the ball to move around. That part is arguable, the rest is pretty clear with replays and stills.
Non
Posts: 9,517
Oct 25, 2011 12:24am
Problem with Baltimore is they lose games like this every year and then they have to take a long road to the Super Bowl.
They've been good on the road in the playoffs but it's tough to win three in a row to get there.
This should be their year to win the division and be one of the top two seeds and suddenly with this loss it opens the door for Pittsburgh again.
Another huge game when they meet in a couple weeks.
They've been good on the road in the playoffs but it's tough to win three in a row to get there.
This should be their year to win the division and be one of the top two seeds and suddenly with this loss it opens the door for Pittsburgh again.
Another huge game when they meet in a couple weeks.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Oct 25, 2011 12:24am
You know better than any that for years Ive been saying Flacco is the reason I dont buy the Ravens as SB contenders. He has proven over and over again to not be the guy.bigdaddy2003;944420 wrote:True. I'm just glad this game is over with. Ha I expect a better performance next weekend.
That said, he has been better in previous years, possibly good enough in other years with this season defense. But he really seems to be regressing this season.
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sportswizuhrd
Posts: 3,215
Oct 25, 2011 12:24am
So that's why I was unable to read your jibberish last week? I hire people to type my posts so they make sense. They are off until Sunday.wes_mantooth;944411 wrote:Exactly. I am proud of you though. I didn't think a fan of a losing team could put a sentence together.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Oct 25, 2011 12:25am
Id expect that game to be a bit closer than the last. Pittsburgh at home will have a slight edge imo, though that doesnt seem to matter much when they meet up.Non;944428 wrote:Problem with Baltimore is they lose games like this every year and then they have to take a long road to the Super Bowl.
They've been good on the road in the playoffs but it's tough to win three in a row to get there.
This should be their year to win the division and be one of the top two seeds and suddenly with this loss it opens the door for Pittsburgh again.
Another huge game when they meet in a couple weeks.
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sportswizuhrd
Posts: 3,215
Oct 25, 2011 12:25am
Said the same thing to a co-worker tonight, Flacco would be the main reason why the Ravens don't win a SB.Laley23;944430 wrote:You know better than any that for years Ive been saying Flacco is the reason I dont buy the Ravens as SB contenders. He has proven over and over again to not be the guy.
bigdaddy2003
Posts: 7,384
Oct 25, 2011 12:27am
It was a combination of things. I wouldn't pin it all on Flacco. The D played pretty good as usual. The offense was just bad. Nothing really went well for them. The Jags D really showed up.I Am Ahab;944425 wrote:I know Flaccos receivers have a history of not helping him, dropping balls and what not. However, you really have to wonder about his ability to lead Baltimore anywhere. He just doesn't seem to have IT.
I didn't get to see much of the game tonight, so idk if you can pin it all on Flacco or if it was a combo of good D, poor WR play, and Flaccos ineptitude but I wonder if the Ravens are going to start thinking about the future of the QB position and whether or not Flacco is a part of it.
It's hard to think there is much hope for them when their biggest rival and top competition, Pissburgh, is basically a mirror image of them but with a much, much, much better QB.
Maybe trade for Tebow.
Non
Posts: 9,517
Oct 25, 2011 12:29am
obviously Indy isn't going anywhere but I still like to go back to this
the last several years, the AFC championship
2003 - New England
2004 - New England
2005 - Pittsburgh
2006 - Indianapolis
2007 - New England
2008 - Pittsburgh
2009 - Indianapolis
2010 - Pittsburgh
Is Rivers, Flacco or Sanchez or somebody else ready to take their team through the playoffs all the way?
Or will it be Brady or Roethlisberger again.
the last several years, the AFC championship
2003 - New England
2004 - New England
2005 - Pittsburgh
2006 - Indianapolis
2007 - New England
2008 - Pittsburgh
2009 - Indianapolis
2010 - Pittsburgh
Is Rivers, Flacco or Sanchez or somebody else ready to take their team through the playoffs all the way?
Or will it be Brady or Roethlisberger again.
Non
Posts: 9,517
Oct 25, 2011 12:32am
I definitely think Baltimore is a better team than the Steelers this year.Laley23;944432 wrote:Id expect that game to be a bit closer than the last. Pittsburgh at home will have a slight edge imo, though that doesnt seem to matter much when they meet up.
But the Steelers are a resilient team and you have to put them away. Baltimore can't be satisfied with that opening game win now. The big stuff is coming up with this upcoming game and the rest of the season.
bigdaddy2003
Posts: 7,384
Oct 25, 2011 12:38am
I will be traveling to Pittsburgh for the game next weekend. I won't be going to the stadium but it shall be interesting none the less.
Oh and I don't feel dumb for making the avatar bet. Who would have thought Jacksonville's D would have came up that big tonight?
Oh and I don't feel dumb for making the avatar bet. Who would have thought Jacksonville's D would have came up that big tonight?
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Oct 25, 2011 1:47am
I don't think Flacco is an elite QB, but I think he'd definitely developed into a top 10-12 QB in the league heading into this year.
Not sure what his deal has been this season though.
Not sure what his deal has been this season though.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Oct 25, 2011 5:30am
chicago510;944383 wrote:Moot point, Flacco sucks.
richeisen Rich Eisen
Harsh, but funny Dave RT @ Dameshek: RT @ sportspickle: Credit where it's due: Flacco remains incredibly calm in the face of being terrible.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Oct 25, 2011 8:52am
tune in next week as non takes another load of steeler sperm to his face!Non;944437 wrote:obviously Indy isn't going anywhere but I still like to go back to this
the last several years, the AFC championship
2003 - New England
2004 - New England
2005 - Pittsburgh
2006 - Indianapolis
2007 - New England
2008 - Pittsburgh
2009 - Indianapolis
2010 - Pittsburgh
Is Rivers, Flacco or Sanchez or somebody else ready to take their team through the playoffs all the way?
Or will it be Brady or Roethlisberger again.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Oct 25, 2011 8:52am
bigdaddy2003;944442 wrote: Who would have thought Jacksonville's D would have came up that big tonight?
ME
bigdaddy2003
Posts: 7,384
Oct 25, 2011 9:53am
So Jacksonville's D is better than I figured but oh well. I'm ok with Flacco. I know he isn't elite but I still think he has potential. Last night wasn't all his fault. I could understand if he was throwing Bauseman like passes 20 yards out of the receiver's reach or something like that but he wasn't. It was just a bad all around night for the offense and once one thing goes wrong everything else seems to follow. I expect a much better performance this weekend.
Anyways deydurkie throw me your choice of avatar.
Anyways deydurkie throw me your choice of avatar.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Oct 25, 2011 10:11am
That flag on pollard was an absolute joke.
bigdaddy2003
Posts: 7,384
Oct 25, 2011 10:17am
100 percent truth.like_that;944633 wrote:That flag on pollard was an absolute joke.
gorocks99
Posts: 10,760
Oct 25, 2011 1:14pm
Vikings (finally) cut Bernard Berrian: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/25/vikings-get-rid-of-bernard-berrian/
Not that it matters much, but it might be a shrewd move to pick up Michael Jenkins in fantasy if you have no WR depth. Basically leaves the Vikes with Harvin and Jenkins as the only threats to catch balls from the WR position.
Not that it matters much, but it might be a shrewd move to pick up Michael Jenkins in fantasy if you have no WR depth. Basically leaves the Vikes with Harvin and Jenkins as the only threats to catch balls from the WR position.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Oct 25, 2011 1:52pm
I did so. Also seems like Ponder will be going downfield a lot more than McNabb, which bodes well for both Jenkins and Harvin.gorocks99;944801 wrote:Vikings (finally) cut Bernard Berrian: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/25/vikings-get-rid-of-bernard-berrian/
Not that it matters much, but it might be a shrewd move to pick up Michael Jenkins in fantasy if you have no WR depth. Basically leaves the Vikes with Harvin and Jenkins as the only threats to catch balls from the WR position.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Oct 25, 2011 3:47pm
Hard fall for Berrian, I recall the Bears trying hard to keep him. Wonder what happened with him.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Oct 25, 2011 3:59pm
If I was a team with a good QB, but lacking a bit in receiving threats, I'd take a flier on him. His numbers went down some in 2009, but plummeted last year (Favre turning ancient overnight) and this year (pure shit at QB).Commander of Awesome;944985 wrote:Hard fall for Berrian, I recall the Bears trying hard to keep him. Wonder what happened with him.