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Oct 10, 2011 9:22 PM
SportsAndLady;929501 wrote:Your original point was it was a stupid challenge because it's only 4-5 yards....that's so stupid. The point wasn't how many yards they'd gain, it's the dfiference between defending a 1st and 10 vs 3rd and 13.

You should know this non, you're a Steelers fan...their good football gives u intelligence.

Too early to be left with one more challenge the rest of the game.

0-0 score, midway through the first

There's so much that can happen.

But if they saw that back camera angle which showed it clearly, then it was a good challenge.

The first look when Gruden and Jaworski were questioning whether it was tipped or wobbly was not clear. That's what I was going off of.
Oct 10, 2011 9:22pm
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Oct 10, 2011 9:26 PM
Non;929505 wrote:Too early to be left with one more challenge the rest of the game.

0-0 score, midway through the first

There's so much that can happen.

But if they saw that back camera angle which showed it clearly, then it was a good challenge.

The first look when Gruden and Jaworski were questioning whether it was tipped or wobbly was not clear. That's what I was going off of.
Lol again...

Your point wasn't whether the challenge would be successful...it was because it was only a matter of 4-5 yards (which was completely untrue).
Oct 10, 2011 9:26pm
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Oct 10, 2011 9:27 PM
Megatron you fucking cheater.
Oct 10, 2011 9:27pm
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Oct 10, 2011 9:28 PM
Non;929505 wrote:Too early to be left with one more challenge the rest of the game.

0-0 score

There's so much that can happen.
Tell that to Lovie, SMH
Oct 10, 2011 9:28pm
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Oct 10, 2011 9:28 PM
Mulva;929517 wrote:Megatron you fucking cheater.
lol
Oct 10, 2011 9:28pm
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Oct 10, 2011 9:29 PM
SportsAndLady;929514 wrote:Lol again...

Your point wasn't whether the challenge would be successful...it was because it was only a matter of 4-5 yards (which was completely untrue).
my point was you can't risk losing it there

too early, Bears weren't even at the 50 yard line

you have to be sure you'll get the call
Oct 10, 2011 9:29pm
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Oct 10, 2011 9:31 PM
Non;929523 wrote:my point was you can't risk losing it there...because it's only 4-5 yards
Agreed


Stupidity
Oct 10, 2011 9:31pm
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Oct 10, 2011 9:32 PM
Non;929523 wrote:my point was you can't risk losing it there

too early, Bears weren't even at the 50 yard line

you have to be sure you'll get the call
That ridiculous. A chance to get the ball back versus a first and ten. you have 2 challenges, and 3 if you get them right. I dont know what you saw, but that ball was tipped in live action. Jaws said it immediately. The replay we saw showed it. It was a great challenge.
Oct 10, 2011 9:32pm
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Oct 10, 2011 9:37 PM
Laley23;929531 wrote:That ridiculous. A chance to get the ball back versus a first and ten. you have 2 challenges, and 3 if you get them right. I dont know what you saw, but that ball was tipped in live action. Jaws said it immediately. The replay we saw showed it. It was a great challenge.
The live angle didn't show it was clearly tipped. You're just saying that now.

Jaws said he thought it must've been because Cutler throws the ball so well.

Then they all looked at the replay and nobody was sure. It was inconclusive.

The back angle when they showed several different ones confirmed it was tipped.

You don't put that much stock into one possession like that early in the game. Coaches do that all the time they'll challenge one early first down catch and it won't mean anything to the outcome.
Oct 10, 2011 9:37pm
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Oct 10, 2011 9:38 PM
Non;929538 wrote:The live angle didn't show it was clearly tipped. You're just saying that now.

Jaws said he thought it must've been because Cutler throws the ball so well.

Then they all looked at the replay and nobody was sure. It was inconclusive.

The back angle when they showed several different ones confirmed it was tipped.

You don't put that much stock into one possession like that early in the game. Coaches do that all the time they'll challenge one early first down catch and it won't mean anything to the outcome.
non is a steelers fan, we must bow down to his knowledge.
Oct 10, 2011 9:38pm
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Oct 10, 2011 9:40 PM
The thing is NFL teams have TVs where they can watch the replay to determine the "challengeability" of the call

Well, maybe the Bears don't
Oct 10, 2011 9:40pm
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Oct 10, 2011 9:40 PM
Non;929538 wrote: You don't put that much stock into one possession like that early in the game.
Does a first half timeout really mean that much to you? lol
Oct 10, 2011 9:40pm
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Oct 10, 2011 9:41 PM
How many games a week does a team use 3 challenges? Id guess less than 15%
Oct 10, 2011 9:41pm
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Oct 10, 2011 9:47 PM
SportsAndLady;929546 wrote:Does a first half timeout really mean that much to you? lol
You only get two challenges per game. It's not about the timeout.

If you miss that one, you only have one left the rest of the game.

More often than not being haphazard with the challenges will come back to haunt you.

That's not the case here because I realize they must've saw the conclusive angle.
Oct 10, 2011 9:47pm
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Oct 10, 2011 9:50 PM
Alright. It's no big deal.

I'm not going to argue about that play the whole game.

The essence of the point has been made and you know I'm right.
Oct 10, 2011 9:50pm
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Oct 10, 2011 9:51 PM
Non;929562 wrote:Alright. It's no big deal.

I'm not going to argue about that play the whole game.

The essence of point has been made and you know I'm right.
you have literally everyone arguing against you. I'd say you are wrong in this instance.
Oct 10, 2011 9:51pm
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Oct 10, 2011 9:54 PM
DeyDurkie5;929563 wrote:you have literally everyone arguing against you. I'd say you are wrong in this instance.
Watch the rest of the year and you'll see games where coaches will challenge a short pass/trap play and lose a challenge and then later on they'll be out of them in a pivotal situation.
Oct 10, 2011 9:54pm
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Oct 10, 2011 9:58 PM
Non;929565 wrote:Watch the rest of the year and you'll see games where coaches will challenge a short pass/trap play and lose a challenge and then later on they'll be out of them in a pivotal situation.
Not when they win the challenge.

Thats the Jay Cutler the Bears paid for! His best drive of the year.
Oct 10, 2011 9:58pm
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Oct 10, 2011 10:05 PM
The Lions got the challenge but still have let the Bears go up and down the field and they trail 10-7

That situation didn't mean anything in hindsight.

Whether it was first down or 3rd and 13.
Oct 10, 2011 10:05pm
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Oct 10, 2011 10:11 PM
Non;929565 wrote:Watch the rest of the year and you'll see games where coaches will challenge a short pass/trap play and lose a challenge and then later on they'll be out of them in a pivotal situation.
you are an idiot. you should be a dolphins fan.
Oct 10, 2011 10:11pm
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Oct 10, 2011 10:12 PM
You are so arrogant its insane. It didnt mean anything because the dumb Lions committed like 4 more penalties to give them first downs. You have the chance to get the ball back, you take it. To argue otherwise is ridiculous. Plenty of times in a game a play that early can be the difference. Id be stunned if Detroit needed 2 more challenges tonight.
Oct 10, 2011 10:12pm
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Oct 10, 2011 10:16 PM
Laley23;929593 wrote:You are so arrogant its insane. It didnt mean anything because the dumb Lions committed like 4 more penalties to give them first downs. You have the chance to get the ball back, you take it. To argue otherwise is ridiculous. Plenty of times in a game a play that early can be the difference. Id be stunned if Detroit needed 2 more challenges tonight.
Think about it, right now at this point that did not mean anything.

So if they had lost it, all they would've done is lose that challenge.

You understand?

People overreact to a first quarter situation. As it happens they think it's bigger than it is. Better to be cool and let the players play out the situations unless it's a really pivotal play.
Oct 10, 2011 10:16pm
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Oct 10, 2011 10:19 PM
Lol this argument is still going on? Over something completely and totally irrelevant lol
Oct 10, 2011 10:19pm
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Oct 10, 2011 10:20 PM
lol non continues his idiocy.
Oct 10, 2011 10:20pm
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Oct 10, 2011 10:21 PM
Stafford has been pretty inaccurate so far minus the deep bomb.

Holy shit, how far back does Hanson start?
Oct 10, 2011 10:21pm