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Thinthickbigred
Posts: 4,148
Jun 22, 2011 6:38pm
NBC took out the words under god and indivisable during the US Open this past weekend
Your thoughts
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Thinthickbigred
Posts: 4,148
Jun 22, 2011 6:40pm
They said they didnt want to offend anybody ..I am by no means a right winger .. I have become pretty liberal over the years but I find this disturbing and basically outragious that a news media outlet would censor anything ..
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Jun 22, 2011 6:41pm
If they don't want to air the pledge then don't air it but don't butcher and bastardize it so it's politically correct. Either use it or don't.

gorocks99
Posts: 10,760
Jun 22, 2011 6:43pm
Idiotic, basically.
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Thinthickbigred
Posts: 4,148
Jun 22, 2011 6:50pm
I think more people need to address this I read it in the paper yesterday and one of the sports writers was so outraged he is boycotting NBC ..I dont need any media outlet to slant there point of views in there ideology ..They need to report news and events and perhaps at the end of the newcast give an editorial .. But Censorship is not acceoptable

bigdaddy2003
Posts: 7,384
Jun 22, 2011 7:24pm
I am more right then left so you can guess where I come out on this issue. I'm not religious but I don't think this was cool what so ever.
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Jun 22, 2011 8:03pm
Noticed right off the bat, and wasn't a fan.
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Jun 22, 2011 8:05pm
Con_Alma;810495 wrote:If they don't want to air the pledge then don't air it but don't butcher and bastardize it so it's politically correct. Either use it or don't.
100% correct. I don't know why they wanted to air it in the first place, what's the point? But to selectively edit that out all they did was piss off people. Is NBC run by clowns (based on the last few years of The Office, yes)?

believer
Posts: 8,153
Jun 22, 2011 8:10pm
I think you answered your own question. NBC deliberately did this because (a) they obviously do not agree with the inclusion of "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance and (b) they knew it would create controversy. They gain attention (albeit negative attention) and they force the debate.Manhattan Buckeye;810561 wrote:100% correct. I don't know why they wanted to air it in the first place, what's the point? But to selectively edit that out all they did was piss off people.

tcarrier32
Posts: 1,497
Jun 22, 2011 10:05pm
should of just cut the entire pledge. however, i have no problem with it.

Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Jun 22, 2011 10:11pm
NBC made too big of a deal out of it by censoring it.
And it is now blowing up into too big of a deal that they did censor it. I mean really, who cares?
And it is now blowing up into too big of a deal that they did censor it. I mean really, who cares?

bigdaddy2003
Posts: 7,384
Jun 22, 2011 10:18pm
Well all of the people who believe in God apparently care HB.

O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Jun 22, 2011 10:26pm
Whether "under God" officially remains in the pledge or not, I actually don't care.
However, for the time being, it is in the pledge, and it is patriotically disrespectful to edit it to fit your own desire.
What if someone decided to say, "I pledge fanhood of the Flag of the United States of America ..."
It's disrespectful, as citizens of a country, to recite such a pledge while changing or omitting parts of it.
However, for the time being, it is in the pledge, and it is patriotically disrespectful to edit it to fit your own desire.
What if someone decided to say, "I pledge fanhood of the Flag of the United States of America ..."
It's disrespectful, as citizens of a country, to recite such a pledge while changing or omitting parts of it.

O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Jun 22, 2011 10:26pm
bigdaddy2003;810759 wrote:Well all of the people who believe in God apparently care HB.
Nah. This guy knows God, but doesn't care whether or not he's mentioned in the national pledge. I don't see the point. Those two words don't hold any supernatural power.

sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 22, 2011 10:42pm
Not religious at all, but I think its dumb to censor anything. It's the freaking pledge of allegiance, leave it how it is.
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Jun 22, 2011 10:50pm
Don't some athletic venues sing "America the Beautiful"? How weird would it be to omit the "God shed his grace on thee" part? NBC screwed the pooch on this one.

Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Jun 23, 2011 12:12am
bigdaddy2003;810759 wrote:Well all of the people who believe in God apparently care HB.
Maybe the hardcore bible thumpers, the average religious people id bank dont care too much

ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Jun 23, 2011 12:17am
This. The line should have never been added to the Pledge, and should be removed. However, so long as it is in there, recite it properly.sleeper;810789 wrote:Not religious at all, but I think its dumb to censor anything. It's the freaking pledge of allegiance, leave it how it is.

tcarrier32
Posts: 1,497
Jun 23, 2011 12:59am
O-Trap;810770 wrote:Whether "under God" officially remains in the pledge or not, I actually don't care.
However, for the time being, it is in the pledge, and it is patriotically disrespectful to edit it to fit your own desire.
What if someone decided to say, "I pledge fanhood of the Flag of the United States of America ..."
It's disrespectful, as citizens of a country, to recite such a pledge while changing or omitting parts of it.
i believe it would be more disrespectful to recite a pledge in which one does not subscribe to all parts of it. some people will not pledge their allegiance to "god", yet still would like to pledge their allegiance to the country.
that being said, i share the same sentiment you do with regards to it being a pointless addition (even for theists)

O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Jun 23, 2011 1:56am
tcarrier32;810900 wrote:i believe it would be more disrespectful to recite a pledge in which one does not subscribe to all parts of it. some people will not pledge their allegiance to "god", yet still would like to pledge their allegiance to the country.
I would contend that if one does not hold to the official Pledge of Allegiance, then one should simply not say the Pledge of Allegiance. If I could not, in my gut, say that I truly pledged allegiance to America, but merely fanhood, then ought I change it, or ought I simply not say it?
As far as the involvement of the words "under God" in the Pledge, I don't believe the pledge is ever to God, but merely asserts his existence over the nation.
I'm A-OK with removing it, just as I am with removing "In God We Trust" from currency. I genuinely don't care one way or another, because in either case, one can recite or spend in good conscience merely recognizing that Deism played a part in the lives of many who formed our country. The recognition of a Deity is part of our history, whether or not it is agreed upon by us today. All that to say that I'm okay if it stays, because it recognizes an element of American history, but I'm also okay if it is removed, because it serves no further purpose, nationally.

Belly35
Posts: 9,716
Jun 23, 2011 7:19am
Heads should roll
The other media networks should blast NBC
The job of the media is to report the news, network entertainment and provide truthful, honest and facts to the public. If NBC is censoring The Pledge of Allegance how can the public take anything NBC has to offer as professional reporting. (National Barack Communication)
The other media networks should blast NBC
The job of the media is to report the news, network entertainment and provide truthful, honest and facts to the public. If NBC is censoring The Pledge of Allegance how can the public take anything NBC has to offer as professional reporting. (National Barack Communication)
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Jun 23, 2011 7:19am
As O-trap said you are not pledging your allegiance to God.tcarrier32;810900 wrote:.... some people will not pledge their allegiance to "god", yet still would like to pledge their allegiance to the country.
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4cards
Posts: 2,551
Jun 23, 2011 7:38am
...I've never been one to do this but I actually sent an e-mail to NBC to voice my issue with them censoring the "Pledge of Allegiance." I explained my reasons as well as my families for no longer going to support those sponsors that they rely on for their revenue dollars. I cc'd the local NBC affiliate's station manager & told him the same of his local advertisers. I know it doesn't really amount to anything of substance, but I guess you just have to vent every once and a while to let others know when you feel strongly about something like this.

coyotes22
Posts: 11,298
Jun 23, 2011 7:47am
It was a stupid move by NBC

Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Jun 23, 2011 11:46am
I'm more left than right and don't care about religion, but something like that is stupid.
You either:
A -- don't have it broadcast at all. Really, when it comes to sporting events, how often on TV do they play the National Anthem, do the Pledge, etc? Big events, ones on certain holidays, but not every time out.
B -- broadcast it unedited.
All this does is piss people off.
You either:
A -- don't have it broadcast at all. Really, when it comes to sporting events, how often on TV do they play the National Anthem, do the Pledge, etc? Big events, ones on certain holidays, but not every time out.
B -- broadcast it unedited.
All this does is piss people off.