SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jun 27, 2011 7:42am
^^that would be nice and dandy and all, but this has nothing to do with ou...it wasn't on campus.
Glory Days
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Jun 27, 2011 7:47am
SportsAndLady;814920 wrote:^^that would be nice and dandy and all, but this has nothing to do with ou...it wasn't on campus.
yeah i know, i wasnt looking for OU it just showed up. just pointing out that people other than police can boot vehicles. even a private institution like OU.
Skyhook79
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Jun 27, 2011 7:52am
If you don't park there illegally who can he take advantage of?pnhasbeen;814854 wrote:Doesn't change the fact that this hillbilly is taking advantage of college students.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Jun 27, 2011 7:55am
Glory Days;814923 wrote:yeah i know, i wasnt looking for OU it just showed up. just pointing out that people other than police can boot vehicles. even a private institution like OU.
LOL, nice try, but OU has a police department. So, if their police department is issuing legal tickets and legally booting, what are you proving?
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Jun 27, 2011 7:55am
Everyone makes mistakes and every mistake has consequences and there are people who take advantage of mistakes. Thats life. But this wasn't a mistake he KNEW he was parked illegally.Thinthickbigred;814857 wrote:You ever make a mistake ? Thats not even the point.. This cracker barrel piece of shit white trash is trying to strong arm this guy with no authority and evidently he got away with it .... Swift street justice needs to be done onto him!! Yes Im still mad ..and nobody post freaking Oprah up unless they want to get punched
coyotes22
Posts: 11,298
Jun 27, 2011 8:02am
Skyhook79;814930 wrote:Everyone makes mistakes and every mistake has consequences and there are people who take advantage of mistakes. Thats life. But this wasn't a mistake he KNEW he was parked illegally.
This.
Thats what I said!!!!
SportsAndLady
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Jun 27, 2011 8:13am
Glory Days;814923 wrote: even a private institution like OU.
Again, this has nothing to do with OU, I don't know why you keep bringing that up.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Jun 27, 2011 8:15am
SportsAndLady;814942 wrote:Again, this has nothing to do with OU, I don't know why you keep bringing that up.
He is trying to prove that private individuals have the right to boot cars, but there are 2 problems with what he is using as evidence.
#1 OU is a STATE institution, not a private
#2 OU has a valid police force to enforce all laws
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Jun 27, 2011 9:25am
Would you suggest the scam artist's actions were justified as a result of the OP's actions?Skyhook79;814926 wrote:If you don't park there illegally who can he take advantage of?
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jun 27, 2011 9:26am
Skyhook, would you be mad if you got a speeding ticket for going 66 in a 65?
Glory Days
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Jun 27, 2011 9:38am
LJ;814945 wrote:He is trying to prove that private individuals have the right to boot cars, but there are 2 problems with what he is using as evidence.
#1 OU is a STATE institution, not a private
#2 OU has a valid police force to enforce all laws
Right, except parking enforcement falls under the univeristy's Parking Services, not the police. Or how about Standard Parking in Cleveland who enforces private parking lots and who i've seen boot vehicles in place.
LJ
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Jun 27, 2011 9:40am
Glory Days;814978 wrote:Right, except parking enforcement falls under the univeristy's Parking Services, not the police. Or how about Standard Parking in Cleveland who enforces private parking lots and who i've seen boot vehicles in place.
The parking enforcement is still backed by the police department and BMV, just like the meter maids in Columbus.
I've never heard of a private lot booting cars that are not supposed to be there. If it is in a contract for paying (which it has to be in a signed contract) they could boot it for non-payment. You can't just go out and boot cars because you have a tow sign up.
Glory Days
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Jun 27, 2011 9:42am
hahaha i just read this when i was doing a search. just a coincidence.
http://www.gunguys.com/?p=3883
http://www.gunguys.com/?p=3883
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jun 27, 2011 9:44am
Glory Days;814978 wrote:Right, except parking enforcement falls under the univeristy's Parking Services, not the police.
On OU's campus, it does. Not for outside the campus.
You're telling me the university's parking services is in charge of all of Athens County parking?
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Jun 27, 2011 9:44am
SportsAndLady;814983 wrote:On OU's campus, it does. Not for outside the campus.
You're telling me the university's parking services is in charge of all of Athens County parking?
dude, he's not talking to you.
SportsAndLady
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Jun 27, 2011 9:51am
LJ;814985 wrote:dude, he's not talking to you.
i confused
Glory Days
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Jun 27, 2011 9:56am
LJ;814979 wrote:The parking enforcement is still backed by the police department and BMV, just like the meter maids in Columbus.
I've never heard of a private lot booting cars that are not supposed to be there. If it is in a contract for paying (which it has to be in a signed contract) they could boot it for non-payment. You can't just go out and boot cars because you have a tow sign up.
i've been trying and looking, but cant find anything specific to booting. the ORC states "removal for storage", thats not booting. i've found other articles from other states that says booting by private companies is shady, but legal.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Jun 27, 2011 9:59am
Ummm, exactly?Glory Days;815003 wrote:i've been trying and looking, but cant find anything specific to booting. the ORC states "removal for storage", thats not booting.
Glad they can't do it in Ohio!i've found other articles from other states that says booting by private companies is shady, but legal.
dwccrew
Posts: 7,817
Jun 27, 2011 10:37am
Glory Days;815003 wrote:i've been trying and looking, but cant find anything specific to booting. the ORC states "removal for storage", thats not booting. i've found other articles from other states that says booting by private companies is shady, but legal.
Exactly. You could've just listened to everyone that already knew this was not a legal practice in Ohio instead of arguing (wrongly) about it. This guy had no authority to boot a vehicle, all he could ever have done is call a tow truck or tow it himself if he was contracted by the property owner to do so.
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Thinthickbigred
Posts: 4,148
Jun 27, 2011 10:54am
Skyhook79;814930 wrote:Everyone makes mistakes and every mistake has consequences and there are people who take advantage of mistakes. Thats life. But this wasn't a mistake he KNEW he was parked illegally.
That is for a judge to decide not some copper stealing ,cousin kissing, inbread ,hick that has no right to make that call!!!!
coyotes22
Posts: 11,298
Jun 27, 2011 11:23am
Thinthickbigred;815084 wrote:That is for a judge to decide not some copper stealing ,cousin kissing, inbread ,hick that has no right to make that call!!!!
HAHA, someone from Steubenville, calling someone else a "copper stealing ,cousin kissing, inbread ,hick"!!! HAHAHAHAHA
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Thinthickbigred
Posts: 4,148
Jun 27, 2011 8:02pm
Very funny Dont you have some spray painting to docoyotes22;815100 wrote:HAHA, someone from Steubenville, calling someone else a "copper stealing ,cousin kissing, inbread ,hick"!!! HAHAHAHAHA
Glory Days
Posts: 7,809
Jun 28, 2011 11:15am
LJ;815006 wrote:Glad they can't do it in Ohio!
Show me the law stating booting is illegal. You've cited towing regulations, show me booting. So far the only states I have found stating it is, is California and Washington.
This guy in GA tried fighting the boot and lost.
http://www.bootandtow.com/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=32
http://fighttheboot.blogspot.com/2011/05/bootman-getting-sued-for-12500.html
Las Vegas allows car booting by private companies. If you follow the links, you'll see the CA supreme court decision. (i couldnt find the OH law equivalent to what was cited in the decision.)
http://howard-wills.com/tag/las-vegas-parking-enforcement-booting/
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Jun 28, 2011 12:19pm
Glory Days;816240 wrote:Show me the law stating booting is illegal. You've cited towing regulations, show me booting. So far the only states I have found stating it is, is California and Washington.
This guy in GA tried fighting the boot and lost.
http://www.bootandtow.com/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=32
http://fighttheboot.blogspot.com/2011/05/bootman-getting-sued-for-12500.html
Las Vegas allows car booting by private companies. If you follow the links, you'll see the CA supreme court decision. (i couldnt find the OH law equivalent to what was cited in the decision.)
http://howard-wills.com/tag/las-vegas-parking-enforcement-booting/
There is only a law stating what CAN be done, not what cannot be done. I know from experience, you cannot boot as a private company. The signs that are approved by Ohio only say that the car will be towed.
Glory Days
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Jun 28, 2011 1:05pm
LJ;816283 wrote:There is only a law stating what CAN be done, not what cannot be done. I know from experience, you cannot boot as a private company. The signs that are approved by Ohio only say that the car will be towed.
ORC 4513.60 establishes rules for TOWING and establishing a private tow away zone. nothing stating that towing is the ONLY thing that can be done. nothing stating a private company cannot immobilize a vehicle on private property.
to me, that shows that signs can vary, aslong as they have the 3 thing stated in the law.The owner posts on the owner’s property a sign, that is at least eighteen inches by twenty-four inches in size, that is visible from all entrances to the property, and that contains at least all of the following information: