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Jun 13, 2011 9:57 PM
This kind of stuff really is disgusting, and these people (hard to call them "officers") don't deserve to be let free in public, even as private citizens.

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Jun 13, 2011 9:57pm
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Jun 13, 2011 9:59 PM
Oh boy....otrap on his "A" game tonight.
Jun 13, 2011 9:59pm
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Jun 13, 2011 10:34 PM
Actually, I agree with everything I've posted here.

My uncle is an officer with the LAPD and has been for his entire professional career (has gone back and forth between Vice and the GND - previously the Eagle Unit), and I have a lot of respect for police officers as a rule, because they do voluntarily take on more risk in order to keep us safe (even little podunk cops).

However, I do agree that when cops do things like this, it brings disgrace to their profession, and it is worse than even a private citizen doing the same thing, because they are given a certain amount of authority, and they are abusing it.
Jun 13, 2011 10:34pm
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Jun 13, 2011 10:43 PM
ccrunner609;801542 wrote:So we are supposed to draw a conclusion that this cop is a POS from a video that has no audio and a one sided story from the guy......ok.

Dude, I'm all for defending cops when warranted, but the man made no threatening gestures or even sudden movements.

Also, upon restraint (which he didn't resist), the multiple punches were excessive.
Jun 13, 2011 10:43pm
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Jun 13, 2011 10:48 PM
ccrunner609;801561 wrote:without audio you dont know what provoked the cops.

We know what DIDN'T provoke the cops. Any threat of violence.

He might have said, "Suck my dick," to the officers or something like that, but that doesn't warrant getting tackled and beat to shit. Nothing he did warranted the actions by the officer. If he'd said something threatening, it wouldn't have warranted the actions after the restraint (and possibly not even before the restraint) if not coupled with actions consistent with posing an actual threat.

There is no way to justify tackling (and beating to shit) a man who exhibits no physical behavior indicating danger or violence.
Jun 13, 2011 10:48pm
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Jun 13, 2011 10:54 PM
I read his lips. He clearly said he had a ***** **** and he was going to ****** ***** ***** all over that cops ******** ****** ****** ********** ***. He's lucky all he got was a swollen eye.
Jun 13, 2011 10:54pm
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Jun 13, 2011 11:02 PM
ccrunner609;801596 wrote:I think there is alot to this that we dont know......

We don't know what the guy said.

That pretty much sums it up, I think. Not sure what else we couldn't know.
Jun 13, 2011 11:02pm
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Jun 13, 2011 11:04 PM
karen lotz;801584 wrote:I read his lips. He clearly said he had a ***** **** and he was going to ****** ***** ***** all over that cops ******** ****** ****** ********** ***. He's lucky all he got was a swollen eye.

"He clearly said he had a big dick and he was going to bust a nut all over that cops hot wife's tig ol' bitties."

Ah, MadLibs ...
Jun 13, 2011 11:04pm
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Jun 13, 2011 11:06 PM
ccrunner609;801614 wrote:well the video cut out about 3 minutes of him resisting arrest.

The video cut back in before the officer even got out of the car. Hard to resist arrest before the officer is even trying to arrest you.
Jun 13, 2011 11:06pm
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Jun 13, 2011 11:09 PM
ccrunner609;801618 wrote:So when we find out that the drunk POS was threatening the cops "outside of a bar"......you will change the thread title to "drunk ass gets owned after running his mouth"?

Nope. My position stands. If a drunk POS yells anything at me, but makes no gesture of violence, I don't have the right to tackle him (which he doesn't even attempt to resist in the video), and I ESPECIALLY don't have the right to pin him down and beat the holy shit out of him.

It's foolish to run your mouth, but that doesn't give any officer the right to tackle you and beat the shit out of you. There is ZERO justification for the officer pinning him and punching him repeatedly (while he laid defenseless on the ground) instead of just cuffing him (which, based on the video, the cop would have been able to do without even tackling him, as the man didn't resist the cop once).
Jun 13, 2011 11:09pm
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Jun 13, 2011 11:25 PM
I must be missing something here, I watched the video and all I seen was a guy being taught to look both ways before crossing at a intersection. The 2 officers should be thanked for saving that mans life, who knows what would have happened if he would have been permitted to cross the street in that traffic without looking both ways.
Jun 13, 2011 11:25pm
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Jun 14, 2011 12:02 AM
Gotta agree with O-Trap on this one and I am almost always on the side of the police on these things. Not just cuz I have a half dozen relatives in law enforcement, but because people who get a police beat down usually deserve it by not complying in some manner.
Jun 14, 2011 12:02am
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Jun 14, 2011 12:17 AM
Steel Valley Football;801751 wrote:Gotta agree with O-Trap on this one and I am almost always on the side of the police on these things. Not just cuz I have a half dozen relatives in law enforcement, but because people who get a police beat down usually deserve it by not complying in some manner.

Yeah, the guy didn't move and could easily have been handcuffed. If he'd struggled, THEN it would have been acceptable to Ray Lewis his ass, but the facial reconstruction would still have been over the line. He could have been a serial killer and that still wouldn't have been justification for a law enforcement officer to tenderize his face like that. A simple tackle and handcuff would have sufficed at the very most.
Jun 14, 2011 12:17am
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Jun 14, 2011 12:18 AM
On a serious note, do you think this kind of police brutality goes on more than we know? The only time we hear about it and the police are made to pay for using unnecessary force is when it is caught on video and even then it is still disputed. You would think that officers would be a little more careful with the use of excessive force when it is unprovoked, considering the increased presence of cell phone and security cameras everywhere you turn.
Jun 14, 2011 12:18am
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Jun 14, 2011 12:28 AM
password;801776 wrote:On a serious note, do you think this kind of police brutality goes on more than we know? The only time we hear about it and the police are made to pay for using unnecessary force is when it is caught on video and even then it is still disputed. You would think that officers would be a little more careful with the use of excessive force when it is unprovoked, considering the increased presence of cell phone and security cameras everywhere you turn.

I do think it happens more often than noted, and I also believe that there are instances of it being reported when it didn't occur. It's a giant cluster, making it hard to judge.
Jun 14, 2011 12:28am
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Jun 14, 2011 12:50 AM
Most times when a minority or street person is abused that they just write it off as being a false report or claim he resisted arrest or threatened to kill them , because they figure nobody really cares and that just gives some officers more freedom to patrol with a iron fist. Yes, there are a lot of instances of false reports by people that are pissed because they were busted for a crime that they are guilty of and just want to get even with the officer who arrested them, they should be prosecuted to the fullest. I do believe that if the abuse in the video would have happened in a dark alley with no witnesses, this would have been written off as a false report of abuse because officers had to struggle with the man because he was all hyped up on drugs or something and it is ashame that their is no correct answer on how to fix the problem with false reports. Not meaning to bring race in to the equation but I have noticed that the NAACP is always trying to file abuse and harassment charges whenever a black man is arrested regardless of the crime that was committed.
Jun 14, 2011 12:50am
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Jun 14, 2011 2:39 AM
The police action could have been affected by prior run-ins and/or behavior.
Jun 14, 2011 2:39am
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Jun 14, 2011 8:45 AM
I cant watch the video at work, but,I hate piece of shit cops that dishonor the oath they took and the badge on your chest
Jun 14, 2011 8:45am
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Jun 14, 2011 8:46 AM
I cant watch the video at work, but,I hate piece of shit cops that dishonor the oath they took and the badge on your chest

I mean it, I hate them.
Jun 14, 2011 8:46am
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Jun 14, 2011 9:20 AM
ccrunner609;801561 wrote:without audio you dont know what provoked the cops.

lol.
Jun 14, 2011 9:20am
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Jun 14, 2011 10:11 AM
ccrunner609;801561 wrote:without audio you dont know what provoked the cops.
I don'e care what he may or may not of said ( or threatened ),

The man was obviously subdued and under control. Shit like this is what feeds a dork like Ender.

Unfortunately, this man will probably never have to work again.. At taxpayer expense.
Jun 14, 2011 10:11am
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Jun 14, 2011 10:18 AM
ccrunner609;801561 wrote:without audio you dont know what provoked the cops.

Ah, the "anti-Ender". AKA: the person who blindly sides with the law enforcement dude, grasping onto whatever real or perceived straw that's necessary to maintain the illusion that they're incapable of doing anything wrong. Just as fascinating of a character in nearly the same way as an Ender.
Jun 14, 2011 10:18am
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Jun 14, 2011 12:11 PM
Why would the officer ask him to zip up his jacket in the first place? I'd have said "go fuck yourself" to that too. Cops can't tell you something like that.
Jun 14, 2011 12:11pm
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Jun 14, 2011 12:26 PM
And even if he did say "go fuck yourself" or whatever. That isn't a reason for an arrest let alone a beating. Especially considering he was about as complient as possible even when the dude was beating him with the stick for no reason. Not every person would have been able to just sit and let that happen.

I think in cases like this that the officers should never be allowed to work in law enforcement again. You have to punish these types of people extremely severely so that everyone knows that it is absolutely unacceptable to dishonor the badge and abuse the authority given to it.
Jun 14, 2011 12:26pm
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Jun 14, 2011 12:31 PM
dwccrew;802099 wrote:Why would the officer ask him to zip up his jacket in the first place? I'd have said "go fuck yourself" to that too. Cops can't tell you something like that.
Maybe his peen was at attention, and they wanted him to cover it up. :D
I Wear Pants;802114 wrote:And even if he did say "go fuck yourself" or whatever. That isn't a reason for an arrest let alone a beating. Especially considering he was about as complient as possible even when the dude was beating him with the stick for no reason. Not every person would have been able to just sit and let that happen.

I think in cases like this that the officers should never be allowed to work in law enforcement again. You have to punish these types of people extremely severely so that everyone knows that it is absolutely unacceptable to dishonor the badge and abuse the authority given to it.
I agree with everything here.
Jun 14, 2011 12:31pm