LJ;797557 wrote:Who do you cheer for?

lol, he isn't dodging!!!!

LJ;797557 wrote:Who do you cheer for?

judging from your post you seem to think you know everything. so you should know the answer to that question. and if you dont it aint any of your business. you need to spend more time worrying about your cheating buckeyes. and not who i cheer for. because they arent ones looking at NCAA sanctions at the moment.

se-alum;797217 wrote:I don't think MoC said anything profound here. Did anyone really think that OSU and Tress were organizing player benefits?? Also, no school or coach has control over 100+ football players, many of whom come from poverty and are now celebrities in their college town.

OT- Whatever come of MoC getting pulled over w/ something like $30,000 in his vehicle a few weeks back??

What did come of that? I knew he got paid at the end of the year in one lump sum from his ufl team so that might be it. I work at a bank so it's not terribly unusual for somebody to have that much money on them but its not real common either. I work at a small bank in the country btw

stroups;797657 wrote:What did come of that? I knew he got paid at the end of the year in one lump sum from his ufl team so that might be it. I work at a bank so it's not terribly unusual for somebody to have that much money on them but its not real common either. I work at a small bank in the country btw

After a little digging, Clarett is suing the Mahoning Valley Law Enforcement Task Force for improper seizure of the $30,000. He was not charged w/ any crime or even cited for anything, they just thought he was carrying too much cash.

No you don't know what Big Gain is saying, your intellect won't let you. What Big Gain he is saying is that MoC admitted revenge was the reason for lying about Ohio State in the past.

Big Gain;795286 wrote:The NCAA should go on a investigative bus tour, starting at the #1 team in the country and work they way down to #50. There would be at least 200 players announcing for the supplementary draft.

My guess is there would be 200 just in the SEC.

pmoney25;797503 wrote:Time to face facts fellow buckeye fans. Tressel was dirty. I am not going to believe for a moment that a man who was supposedly this organzied and brilliant had no clue what was going on when any 18 year old freshman on Campus knew what was going on. He had issues at YSU, he had issues here.

Right now OSU is no different than any school that has been busted. Hopefully the new coach whoever it ends up being will be able to restore integrity to Ohio State. Our program is/was dirty, who knows how long but thats the fact.

True, but there was little/no institutional control when Coop was there either. I think everyone old enough remembers Kenyon Rambo and Reggie Germany being suspended for carrying less than a 1.0 GPA....hell Kenyon Rambo didn't even have a GPA. Guys got busted fairly often for drugs, a lot of players missed team meetings, mandatory workouts etc.

My question is, why the hell is a guy like Butch Davis still coaching? Didn't UNC have like 8-12 players suspended for over half the season (several for the entire season) last year for basically accepting improper benefits from agents? How is that not worse than selling some of your own shit, stuff that you technically own, to billy bob down at your local tattoo shop? I mean, anyone with half a brain knows that if ANYTHING is a rules violation in the NCAA's eyes, its receiving free shit from NFL reps and agents. That's like the golden rule being broken. Yet no witch hunt was conducted in Chapel Hill. I know I know, it's because UNC found out and reported it, Tressel and OSU didnt etc etc. But if memory serves me right, his record wasn't squeaky clean at Miami either. And just so everyone knows, I have nothing against Butch Davis, and I actually think he's a pretty good college coach, but lets be honest. Look at the lull Miami was in and the caliber of player he was able to almost magically bring in immediately, that returned them to a national power for several years...same thing, except on a smaller scale at UNC...they went from being TERRIBLE in football to having made 3 or 4 straight bowl games, being in contention for an ACC title or two, and having somewhere in the neighborhood of 20 high-round NFL draft picks over the past 4 years or so....and both programs, when he was at the helm, have had major violations involving just this very subject, yet he's still coaching. In those cases, the coach was never blamed for the actions of the players like Tressel was/is. Same question I have with a guy like Gene Chizik...you're telling me that you're the head coach of one of the most tradition-rich programs in the SEC and you had NO IDEA that Cam Newton was being sold all over SEC country to the highest bidder? You recruited him, or your staff did to get him to Auburn, yet nobody had any idea that apparently (according to Miss. State coaches and staff) the price tag was somewhere around 180k for him to commit to your school? How is it that other schools that were recruiting him were aware of this, yet your school, where he ultimately ended up, was not? BULL FUCKING SHIT. I'm sure nobody's covering ANYTHING up in either of those two cases. Of course, the NCAA has never bothered to look either. That helps out a lot.

redskin - The UNC story was on the front page of ESPN's CFB page all week (from the time it came out). The NCAA will be completing its investigation this month and sent the school "the letter".

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6636443

pmoney25;797503 wrote:Time to face facts fellow buckeye fans. Tressel was dirty. I am not going to believe for a moment that a man who was supposedly this organzied and brilliant had no clue what was going on when any 18 year old freshman on Campus knew what was going on. He had issues at YSU, he had issues here.

Right now OSU is no different than any school that has been busted. Hopefully the new coach whoever it ends up being will be able to restore integrity to Ohio State. Our program is/was dirty, who knows how long but thats the fact.

FACTS??? YOU give us some facts instead of generalizations and lies. What NCAA rule infractions was Tressel punished for while he was at YSU??? We await your list.

How about these...YOU supply a yes or no answer.

Was Tressel fined while he was at YSU?
Did the NCAA ban Tressel from coaching games while he was at YSU?
Did the NCAA make YSU forfeit any games while Tressel was there?
Did the NCAA make YSU forfeit any National Titles while Tressel was there?
Did the NCAA ban YSU from playing in the post season while Tressel was there?
Did the NCAA place any recruiting restrictions on YSU while Tressel was there?
Did the NCAA take any scholarships from YSU while Tressel was there?

Big Gain;798717 wrote:FACTS??? YOU give us some facts instead of generalizations and lies. What NCAA rule infractions was Tressel punished for while he was at YSU??? We await your list.

How about these...YOU supply a yes or no answer.

Was Tressel fined while he was at YSU?
Did the NCAA ban Tressel from coaching games while he was at YSU?
Did the NCAA make YSU forfeit any games while Tressel was there?
Did the NCAA make YSU forfeit any National Titles while Tressel was there?
Did the NCAA ban YSU from playing in the post season while Tressel was there?
Did the NCAA place any recruiting restrictions on YSU while Tressel was there?
Did the NCAA take any scholarships from YSU while Tressel was there?

What stock do you put in the fact that the NCAA didn't find out about the violations until after the statute of limitations had passed (the 1991 title would have been vacated otherwise)? YSU did receive scholarship limitations and was cited for lack of institutional control. Tressel bailed before the penalties, but the violations were on his watch and those who succeeded him had to deal with it.