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Jun 8, 2011 3:11 PM
The Reds are making Koyie Hill look relevant.
Jun 8, 2011 3:11pm
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Jun 8, 2011 3:12 PM
Ironman92;794966 wrote:Definately the 1th best 3-1 pitch of all-time


Nice! Now its easy to see how its a WOW pitch. Thanks vbuddy.
Jun 8, 2011 3:12pm
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Jun 8, 2011 3:13 PM
Sure thing S&L....but still need 5 more outs....will we have enough pitchers to finish the game?
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Jun 8, 2011 3:14 PM
Nice stop by the 6'8 hurler.
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Jun 8, 2011 3:15 PM
I was going to say tall...but lotz wouldn't get it
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Jun 8, 2011 3:19 PM
Ironman92;794977 wrote:I was going to say tall...but lotz wouldn't get it


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Jun 8, 2011 3:25 PM
Ondrusek was not efficient with his 30 pitches...but he got out of it. Arroyo used about 5.5 pitches per out and the relief pitchers are taking about 11 pitches to get an out.
Jun 8, 2011 3:25pm
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Jun 8, 2011 3:25 PM
Votto scared lol
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Jun 8, 2011 3:26 PM
Votto not happy....but his competitive grumpiness makes me smile.
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Jun 8, 2011 3:30 PM
I will describe Fred Lewis as crooked. Hat, stance, even when he catches the ball his body and glove are not straight.
Jun 8, 2011 3:30pm
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Jun 8, 2011 3:31 PM
Coco showing how to pitch out of the bullpen!
Jun 8, 2011 3:31pm
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Jun 8, 2011 3:32 PM
Most likely visitor to hit one into the Ohio River.......Carlos Pena
Jun 8, 2011 3:32pm
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Jun 8, 2011 3:33 PM
I am not a fan of Lewis. I know he bats lefthanded and all and managers love that in matchups but I just dont see the potential.
Gomes stinks but can get on a hot streak and have some jacks.

I dont know....maybe I just dont know enough about him and his potential
Jun 8, 2011 3:33pm
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Jun 8, 2011 3:33 PM
Good job Cordero!

Worked quickly...threw strikes...stayed off the middle of the plate....1-2-3
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Jun 8, 2011 3:42 PM
Lewis goes 0-4 with another K....he is essentially Mike Cameron...but only has the strikeout capabilities.

SHIT

4 GD hits with a guy who hits .500 on the bench....outstanding.....PH Gomes with the best PH in baseball on the bench...outstanding
Jun 8, 2011 3:42pm
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Jun 8, 2011 3:48 PM
Nice job by our gold glove caliber SS today. I will give him credit though, he hit one into the outfield that was played into a triple.
Jun 8, 2011 3:48pm
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Jun 8, 2011 3:50 PM
Ironman92;795042 wrote:Lewis goes 0-4 with another K....he is essentially Mike Cameron...but only has the strikeout capabilities.

SHIT

4 GD hits with a guy who hits .500 on the bench....outstanding.....PH Gomes with the best PH in baseball on the bench...outstanding
But Dusty was saving those two for more important PH opportunities later in the same, something like when the tying or winning runs are on base. He likes to die with bullets still in the gun!
Jun 8, 2011 3:50pm
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Jun 8, 2011 4:06 PM
dave......it was a triple.....ripped into the gap....gamey CF dives full extention.....worst case scenario is a double

Janish didn't pitch the ball to Ramirez. Janish didn't fail offensively like Cairo and Lewis.

Janish is way down on the list of why the Reds lost.
Jun 8, 2011 4:06pm
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Jun 8, 2011 4:09 PM
SportsAndLady;794825 wrote:@johnfayman
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RT @jnschel @johnfayman any chance renteria hits the DL and cozart makes the trip to san fran?//none

With Rolen and Renteria both out this series, seems like Cozart should have been brought up before the Cubs series started. The Reds were very short on infielders and were lucky to win 2 of 3. Maybe with Cozart and Janish in the line-up today, the first inning would have been different.

Renteria could come off the DL on the 16th at the end of the road trip. That would have given Cozart a 10 game stint, the first 3 at home and then 7 on the west coast, a nice break from the minors.
Jun 8, 2011 4:09pm
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Jun 8, 2011 4:18 PM
mhs95_06;795068 wrote: The Reds were very short on infielders and were lucky to win 2 of 3.

come on...they won the first 2 games by large margins of victory
Jun 8, 2011 4:18pm
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Jun 8, 2011 4:28 PM
Again, Dusty put this out there with all of this knowledge:

Batting 2nd......3/24
Batting 3rd ......3/18
Batting 4th........3/11.......not bad
Batting 5th........1/11
Batting 6th........1/8

You are not going to score very many runs putting those numbers into a lineup....yes Phillips and Votto are definately needed.....but how can you seriously not have a veteran 7/15 somewhere in the middle of that? It's not hard to understand why they scored 1 run. It is hard to understand why Fred Lewis got the start.

As for Cozart...I honestly don't care....I love when new heralded guys come up.....but I want him to play and if he's not a Bruce/Votto/Stubbs caliber.....he will rot like Heisey.....might even hold hands with him on the bench while others fail over, and over, and over, and over....ugh.
Jun 8, 2011 4:28pm
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Jun 8, 2011 4:43 PM
Ironman92;795097 wrote:As for Cozart...I honestly don't care....I love when new heralded guys come up.....but I want him to play and if he's not a Bruce/Votto/Stubbs caliber.....he will rot like Heisey.....might even hold hands with him on the bench while others fail over, and over, and over, and over....ugh.

That ties into what I think Dusty's biggest weakness as a manager is: he puts guys in what he perceives their role to be and it take A LOT to get him to alter his thinking. I'd say that philosophy combined with how some of his "key guys" have struggled mightily in contrast to Pittsburgh's Clint Hurdle, who seems to react more quickly to hot/cold hands is why those two teams are so close in the standings.

Gomes was being trotted out there almost every day despite being clueless at the plate. After he FINALLY saw his PT diminished greatly, he started coming out of his slump and contributing again. Masset kept getting one high-leverage situation after another while in a horrible slump under the plan that "he'll work out of it eventually". It just seems that style of managing is great when you're doing good, but when guys aren't contributing and the team's muddling around .500, you have to be more proactive.

Pirates aren't anything special, but guys who have been productive in small stints like Xavier Paul and Dan McCutchen are getting more PT and in high-leverage situations. Guys like Evan Meek and Garrett Jones, who have been struggling are seeing the opposite happen. I think it prevents complacency and helps young guys because they know that if they do things right, they WILL get rewarded for it sooner or later.
Jun 8, 2011 4:43pm
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Jun 8, 2011 4:54 PM
You seem to know more than some Reds fans. Kudos.
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Jun 8, 2011 5:02 PM
Ironman92;795132 wrote:You seem to know more than some Reds fans. Kudos.

I'm good friends with a couple and we watch a lot of games together. We've spent a lot of time this year wondering things like how many runs were left on base because Gomes would regularly go 0-4 with 3Ks, wasting hits by Votto and Phillips (to the degree that we were shocked after one particularly horrid day loaded with intentional walks to Votto followed by K-ing Gomes actually led to Dusty moving Phillips to 4 so Joey'd have some protection). And why Masset was in the eighth inning when he always seemed to turn 3-1 leads into 3-4 deficits. Very frustrating for them.
Jun 8, 2011 5:02pm
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Jun 8, 2011 5:06 PM
Quite the ho hum season thus far....Castellini can't be real impressed
Jun 8, 2011 5:06pm