Terrelle Pryor not returning to OSU

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Jun 9, 2011 11:31pm
thedynasty1998;796797 wrote:The Torg has actually been pretty spot on. I know he's a goofball but for some reason I trust him.

Compliance already got caught in a lie. So I do think they were well aware of sketchy things going on.

Im only skeptical because so many times they say "listen tomorrow for big news" and then the big news is "we are gonna have kevin kurgis call in once per week!!!"
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thedynasty1998
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Jun 9, 2011 11:45pm
I wouldn't tune in because he says big news tomorrow. But if he throws something out there he usually has a reliable source.
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salemfreak
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Jun 9, 2011 11:51pm
Little Danny;796420 wrote:Aww.....those meanie's on ESPN better stop or poor little TP might get his feelings hurt!

Child please.... he is old and smart enough to know that if you take cars, cash, tattoos and weed you might just lose your eligibility.
ok lets act like we are five years old. honestly stop trying to be B.A. and get over yourself. lets see you take all the crap he is taking and see if u can handle it.
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Jun 9, 2011 11:53pm
salemfreak;796896 wrote:ok lets act like we are five years old. honestly stop trying to be B.A. and get over yourself. lets see you take all the crap he is taking and see if u can handle it.

Pryor is a moron and deserves all the criticism he's been getting. Wake up.
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Jun 9, 2011 11:57pm
Is SQ back and just avoiding NBA threads?
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bigkahuna
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Jun 10, 2011 12:45am
salemfreak;796896 wrote:ok lets act like we are five years old. honestly stop trying to be B.A. and get over yourself. lets see you take all the crap he is taking and see if u can handle it.

I'd probably just not sell my stuff for tats, money, and cars.
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dat dude
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Jun 10, 2011 8:53am
Talbot (40 years old) has vanity license plates. They read....

"T PRYOR"

smh
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Jun 10, 2011 9:00am
dat dude;797226 wrote:Talbot (40 years old) has vanity license plates. They read....

"T PRYOR"

smh

Maybe he has a weird obsession lol

I mean if the story about giving money isn't true (which I believe it probably is true, just not to the tune of $40k) maybe the guy had an unhealthy obsession with TP which is why he was asked to distance himself from the program. Just tossing it out there. I think he still paid him though.
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Jun 10, 2011 9:10am
LJ;797232 wrote:Maybe he has a weird obsession lol

I mean if the story about giving money isn't true (which I believe it probably is true, just not to the tune of $40k) maybe the guy had an unhealthy obsession with TP which is why he was asked to distance himself from the program. Just tossing it out there. I think he still paid him though.

http://www.cleveland.com/osu/index.ssf/2011/06/columbus_photographer_denies_g.html

Well, he has come out and denied that he ever gave Pryor any money. One would think he would know about the rumors of Pryor cashing personal checks from him. Would be incredibly dumb to outwardly deny any payments if he was indeed writing personal checks. That information would surely come out through an NCAA investigation.
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Jun 10, 2011 9:18am
dat dude;797240 wrote:http://www.cleveland.com/osu/index.ssf/2011/06/columbus_photographer_denies_g.html

Well, he has come out and denied that he ever gave Pryor any money. One would think he would know about the rumors of Pryor cashing personal checks from him. Would be incredibly dumb to outwardly deny any payments if he was indeed writing personal checks. That information would surely come out through an NCAA investigation.

Does the NCAA still have permission to obtain those records since Pryor left school? I would imagine they would need some type of warrant. And Pryor certainly won't talk to the NCAA.
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Jun 10, 2011 9:24am
thedynasty1998;797247 wrote:Does the NCAA still have permission to obtain those records since Pryor left school? I would imagine they would need some type of warrant. And Pryor certainly won't talk to the NCAA.

lol, they can't get a warrant. They can open a civil lawsuit and subpeopna recods, but that's it.
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Jun 10, 2011 9:39am
LJ;797254 wrote:lol, they can't get a warrant. They can open a civil lawsuit and subpeopna recods, but that's it.

I knew warrant wasn't the right wording.
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WebFire
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Jun 10, 2011 10:00am
I imagine the NCAA or compliance cannot get any records starting with the day he was no longer a student. But you'd think compliance would have some sort of records while he was a student there.
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Jun 10, 2011 10:04am
WebFire;797297 wrote:I imagine the NCAA or compliance cannot get any records starting with the day he was no longer a student. But you'd think compliance would have some sort of records while he was a student there.

We don't know exactly what hte agreement says. Most likely they would have to open a civil lawsuit and subpeona records to get them now from when he was there. If they have them on file I'd assume they can use them, but we don't know if the agreement says that they can keep records or not.
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WebFire
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Jun 10, 2011 10:07am
LJ;797301 wrote:We don't know exactly what hte agreement says. Most likely they would have to open a civil lawsuit and subpeona records to get them now from when he was there. If they have them on file I'd assume they can use them, but we don't know if the agreement says that they can keep records or not.

Right, I don't know either. Just taking a guess. You would think the compliance dept. would be able to keep records just for these kinds of things. Say 2 years after an athlete leaves school, the NCAA comes and says a booster was writing checks to the athlete while he was in school. I would sure want records available to prove otherwise.
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Jun 10, 2011 10:10am
WebFire;797306 wrote:Right, I don't know either. Just taking a guess. You would think the compliance dept. would be able to keep records just for these kinds of things. Say 2 years after an athlete leaves school, the NCAA comes and says a booster was writing checks to the athlete while he was in school. I would sure want records available to prove otherwise.

But at the same time how many of these scandels come out because of the person paying the player being indicted on other charges and having their bank records pulled and checks to players are found? I kind of get the feeling that most schools don't pay close attention until something happens.

I wonder how they are sure they have all the bank records. Are they pulling a credit report and then gaining access to all those accounts? Or are they just accessing the ones the players tell them about.
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Jun 10, 2011 10:27am
LJ;797308 wrote:But at the same time how many of these scandels come out because of the person paying the player being indicted on other charges and having their bank records pulled and checks to players are found? I kind of get the feeling that most schools don't pay close attention until something happens.

I wonder how they are sure they have all the bank records. Are they pulling a credit report and then gaining access to all those accounts? Or are they just accessing the ones the players tell them about.

Credit report wouldn't be beneficial in obtaining records of assets. It's only going to report debts.

And who is to say these players are telling the school about all of their accounts? Give compliance one checking account and be done with it.
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Jun 10, 2011 10:33am
thedynasty1998;797324 wrote:Credit report wouldn't be beneficial in obtaining records of assets. It's only going to report debts.

And who is to say these players are telling the school about all of their accounts? Give compliance one checking account and be done with it.

I meant full background check inquiry.
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Jun 10, 2011 10:36am
LJ;797333 wrote:I meant full background check inquiry.

I would hope there would be someone representing the players that wouldn't allow that to be the case.
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Jun 10, 2011 10:41am
thedynasty1998;797340 wrote:I would hope there would be someone representing the players that wouldn't allow that to be the case.

Why? Many companies do this? Hell, FABCO gives you everything except checking and savings acct numbers.
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Jun 10, 2011 10:52am
John Taylor of CFT
Now, I don’t know the extent of Talbott’s relationship with Pryor or if any NCAA violations were committed because of the relationship, but I do know, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that a 40-year-old, grown-ass man willingly driving around with a college football player’s name on his license plates pegs and obliterates the “creepy” meter.
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Jun 10, 2011 10:59am
LJ;797381 wrote:John Taylor of CFT


lol, no shit.
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Jun 10, 2011 11:34am
LJ;797352 wrote:Why? Many companies do this? Hell, FABCO gives you everything except checking and savings acct numbers.

Thats part of an application. And it's just a credit report and criminal record. Doesn't collect information on assets. I just feel like assets should be much more private and confidential than liabilities.
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Jun 10, 2011 11:34am
An Article in the Mansfield NJ says Talbot graduated from Colonel Crawford High School. They interviewed some high school classmates, one a friend for many years who said he had to finally walk away from the friendship. He said it became obvious Talbot was nothing more than a small time conman who would con anybody out of anything at anytime, as his delusions of grandeur got higher and higher. An area athlete who graduated from high school the same year as Talbot, said in the 1990s he approached him and some other small college football players, saying he would arrange Pro tryouts for them.

Talbot has owned staffing and recruiting businesses in the past decade. The IRS filed a lien on Talbot in 2009 for $278,875 for unpaid federal taxes. in 2010 Ohio filed a lien on Talbot for $74,227 for back taxes owed the State. Liens by several companies are also on the books against Talbot.

According to public websites Talbot claims to have graduated from Kent State University, but the Kent State registrar's offices said Talbot attend school there for only two semesters.
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Jun 10, 2011 11:35am
LJ;797381 wrote:
Now, I don’t know the extent of Talbott’s relationship with Pryor or if any NCAA violations were committed because of the relationship, but I do know, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that a 40-year-old, grown-ass man willingly driving around with a college football player’s name on his license plates pegs and obliterates the “creepy” meter.

Kind of like some of the 40-somethings on that other site to whom high school sports are the single most important thing in their lives.

Personally, I've never understood the concept that because I a fan of a team, I want to hang out with the players.