wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
May 25, 2011 6:26pm
KR1245;780572 wrote:Shaw has gotta be pissed
Maybe they keep Shaw and run the triangle? It will be interesting to see what they plan on doing
Add D Howard to a Mike Brown defense and they might be on to something
I'm pretty sure Shaw was going to be gone if he didn't get the job. I mean if I was him I wouldn't stick around.
jpake1
Posts: 2,389
May 25, 2011 6:32pm
I wonder how this plays out if kobe doesn't believe in him at some point in the season. I can see this hiring causing more bad than good if it at all gets rocky.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
May 25, 2011 7:27pm
LOL at all the negativity on Mike Brown. I didn't see the Heat win 60 plus games this year. Good luck Brownie. You are a really good coach and worth every penny of your 4.5 mil per year pay.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
May 25, 2011 7:30pm
Footwedge;780652 wrote:LOL at all the negativity on Mike Brown. I didn't see the Heat win 60 plus games this year. Good luck Brownie. You are a really good coach and worth every penny of your 4.5 mil per year pay.
Yeah...agreed. he def needs some help on the offensive side, but he managed lebrons giant ego, so this will be a vacation for him.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
May 25, 2011 7:33pm
Footwedge;780652 wrote:I didn't see the Heat win 60 plus games this year.
SMFH
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
May 25, 2011 7:35pm
Did he really though? Bron did whatever the hell he wanted to, whenever he wanted to. I know a lot of that had to do with Gilbert too, but still.wes_mantooth;780655 wrote:Yeah...agreed. he def needs some help on the offensive side, but he managed lebrons giant ego, so this will be a vacation for him.
I really think this is a bad decision by Mitch and the gang.
KR1245
Posts: 4,317
May 25, 2011 8:02pm
I like the guy as a person, just wish he had a better understanding of the offense
Something I read on RCF. Pretty much sums up my thoughts:
Something I read on RCF. Pretty much sums up my thoughts:
His inability to be flexible or imaginitive to use LeBron on Rondo was a back-breaker against Boston last year. In his limited possesions guarding Rondo, our field-goal defensive % went way up. But he never wanted to consistently do it, but rather watch Rondo dismantle us possesion after possesion. The argument about putting Parker on Pierce should be a non-starter because we ultimately just watched Rondo destroy us. Why not try something other than Williams and Parker?
And the Orlando series when Rashard Lewis and Hedo just destroyed us was equally bad. He never made adjustments to give us a chance.
I think the biggest argument to be made was LeBron didn't want to guard Rondo and he didn't want to play PF against Orlando, but ultimately a coach should demand that out of his players.
But he is a great guy and I wish him success wherever he goes.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
May 25, 2011 8:03pm
wildcats20;780665 wrote:Did he really though? Bron did whatever the hell he wanted to, whenever he wanted to. I know a lot of that had to do with Gilbert too, but still.
I really think this is a bad decision by Mitch and the gang.
Although, I would LOVE to see Mike take Kobe and Co. to the Finals and BEAT the Heat. THAT would be awesome.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
May 25, 2011 8:05pm
I like this hire, because I dont like the Lakers 
. But if I were a Lakers fan, i wouldnt be happy at all. Why do they need a defensive minded coach? The Lakers already have I'd say a top 5 defense in the league. All this talk on ESPN.."Mike Brown is the 5th winningest coach of all time" "Mike Brown took the Cavs to the finals in 07"...Mike Brown didnt do any of that. The best player in the game did.
. But if I were a Lakers fan, i wouldnt be happy at all. Why do they need a defensive minded coach? The Lakers already have I'd say a top 5 defense in the league. All this talk on ESPN.."Mike Brown is the 5th winningest coach of all time" "Mike Brown took the Cavs to the finals in 07"...Mike Brown didnt do any of that. The best player in the game did.
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enigmaax
Posts: 4,511
May 25, 2011 9:03pm
Well, once again Cleveland fans (and now LA fans) will be glad to know LeBron has given his seal of approval.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AmKbDCu5LGuNpGOEYcvdQ1o5nYcB?slug=mc-spears_lebron_james_mike_brown_lakers_052511
What I found more interesting is that Ilgauskas validated what a lot of us have said about Cavs fans. Is he now on your shit list too:
"The new thing in the NBA is to pull out all the stops to keep LeBron from winning rings. The Lakers just hired Mike Brown. They figured he was an expert in this department."
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AmKbDCu5LGuNpGOEYcvdQ1o5nYcB?slug=mc-spears_lebron_james_mike_brown_lakers_052511
What I found more interesting is that Ilgauskas validated what a lot of us have said about Cavs fans. Is he now on your shit list too:
For those not on the Mike Brown train, saw this on facebook:“Idiots pinned it on [James],” Ilgauskas said. “But he didn’t do any hiring or firing. That came from higher-ups. You can only blame so much on that kid. Eventually, someone else has to take some accountability.”
"The new thing in the NBA is to pull out all the stops to keep LeBron from winning rings. The Lakers just hired Mike Brown. They figured he was an expert in this department."
KR1245
Posts: 4,317
May 25, 2011 9:08pm
enigmaax;780799 wrote:Well, once again Cleveland fans (and now LA fans) will be glad to know LeBron has given his seal of approval.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AmKbDCu5LGuNpGOEYcvdQ1o5nYcB?slug=mc-spears_lebron_james_mike_brown_lakers_052511
What I found more interesting is that Ilgauskas validated what a lot of us have said about Cavs fans. Is he now on your shit list too:
For those not on the Mike Brown train, saw this on facebook:
"The new thing in the NBA is to pull out all the stops to keep LeBron from winning rings. The Lakers just hired Mike Brown. They figured he was an expert in this department."
Give it a rest
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
May 25, 2011 9:09pm
wildcats20;780665 wrote:Did he really though? Bron did whatever the hell he wanted to, whenever he wanted to. I know a lot of that had to do with Gilbert too, but still.
Nobody controlled him. As you said, he did whatever the Hell he wanted to. He tuned out Brown and had his own agenda. Part of this WAS Gilbert's fault for enabling/coddling him and his entourage.
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
May 25, 2011 9:53pm
If Lebron had too much freedom it was because of Gilbert and Ferry. I always thought Brown did a good job. He wasn't great at X's and O's but he was great at getting his guys motivated to play every night. I also liked how he never tried to make himself bigger than what he was.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
May 25, 2011 9:58pm
thedynasty1998;780926 wrote:If Lebron had too much freedom it was because of Gilbert and Ferry. I always thought Brown did a good job. He wasn't great at X's and O's but he was great at getting his guys motivated to play every night. I also liked how he never tried to make himself bigger than what he was.
Dont think Gilbert/Ferry had too much control inside the huddle calling plays or picking who gets to guard who.
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
May 25, 2011 10:04pm
Pick6;780939 wrote:Dont think Gilbert/Ferry had too much control inside the huddle calling plays or picking who gets to guard who.
I didn't say they did. In freedom I meant off the court regarding Lebron.
Terry_Tate
Posts: 7,606
May 25, 2011 10:09pm
Not sure if its been mentioned, but could this be the Bill Belichick move of basketball for Cleveland?
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
May 25, 2011 10:17pm
Certainly never a bad job as coach of the Lakers. Players will always want to play for them.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
May 25, 2011 10:19pm
thedynasty1998;781021 wrote:Certainly never a bad job as coach of the Lakers. Players will always want to play for them.
Apparently Kobe isn't very happy at the hire though. I don't think this ends well at all for LA.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
May 25, 2011 10:20pm
Is Kobe gonna be a prima donna about the whole thing?
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
May 25, 2011 10:22pm
From Broussard....
6 hours ago...
6 hours ago...
3 hours ago...Chris_Broussard Chris Broussard
Kobe on board with hiring of Brown, has great respect for him, according to sources. Lakers will announce Brown hiring this afternoon.
Chris_Broussard Chris Broussard
LATimes reports some say Kobe confused by MBrown hiring. I've been told he respects Brown, but I haven't talked to Kobe directly. We'll see.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
May 25, 2011 10:25pm
wildcats20;781026 wrote:Apparently Kobe isn't very happy at the hire though. I don't think this ends well at all for LA.
"Bryant and his teammates apparently weren't consulted during the coaching search, and Bryant declined to comment on Brown's hiring Wednesday when reached by the Los Angeles Times. Bryant publicly supported Shaw, his former Lakers teammate, but the two-time NBA finals MVP also said the Lakers should find a coach who believes in hard-nosed defense.
"I don't believe in building a championship team on offense," Bryant said two weeks ago after his exit interview with Lakers brass. "It has to be built on defense and rebounding, period."
Sure Kobe endorsed Shaw but Kobe also knows what wins Championships.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
May 25, 2011 10:35pm
Skyhook79;781039 wrote:"Bryant and his teammates apparently weren't consulted during the coaching search, and Bryant declined to comment on Brown's hiring Wednesday when reached by the Los Angeles Times. Bryant publicly supported Shaw, his former Lakers teammate, but the two-time NBA finals MVP also said the Lakers should find a coach who believes in hard-nosed defense.
"I don't believe in building a championship team on offense," Bryant said two weeks ago after his exit interview with Lakers brass. "It has to be built on defense and rebounding, period."
Sure Kobe endorsed Shaw but Kobe also knows what wins Championships.
Not Mike Brown.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
May 25, 2011 10:37pm
Fish is on board though....
derekfisher derekfisher
is lucky to have him.Will miss Phil but excited to start a new chapter under Mike Brown. Looking forward to a different style and energy!!
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
May 25, 2011 10:42pm
wildcats20;781079 wrote:Not Mike Brown.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure Mike Brown was on Staff and was the defensive guru for the 2003 Spurs Championship.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
May 25, 2011 10:43pm
why was sq banned? What a turdball