rmolin73;802513 wrote:As is your comment.

My comment was the truth . The idea of competitive balance can be debated

Your comment about shadyside winning a title is not truth it is assumption.

rmolin73;803051 wrote:Your comment about shadyside winning a title is not truth it is assumption.

I said Id have liked to see them winning a title, but they had no chance..

Thinthickbigred;803451 wrote:I said Id have liked to see them winning a title, but they had no chance..

They didn't have a chance because they weren't that good. I talked with several MAC people who said they would finish in the middle of that conference, at best.

Al Bundy;803456 wrote:They didn't have a chance because they weren't that good. I talked with several MAC people who said they would finish in the middle of that conference, at best.

maybe they were not that good for that confrence alot of D-5 and some d-4 teams in that league though . They still won 4 Ohio playoff games .

Thinthickbigred;803490 wrote:maybe they were not that good for that confrence alot of D-5 and some d-4 teams in that league though . They still won 4 Ohio playoff games .

No one in the MAC was D4 last year. Shadyside had a good year and won some playoff games, but they were not an elite D6 team.

Thinthickbigred;803490 wrote:maybe they were not that good for that confrence alot of D-5 and some d-4 teams in that league though . They still won 4 Ohio playoff games .

The fact that you think that the MAC has D4 teams lets me know that you talk just for the sake of talking.

Thinthickbigred;802463 wrote:Because they are not as deep as alot of strong private schools one or two injuries can wreck a whole season in some instances

Certainly. My point was that they play among themselves because of travel, league affiliation, injuries, whatever. But when they get to the upper level teams who play "up", they get overwhelmed. It would be better if they played a couple of games against teams a couple of divisions higher, every year. Big Red wouldn't play at the level it does if it played a D4 shedule that excluded Mooney, Ursuline and other top teams every year. A schedule of Newton Falls, East Knox, Brooklyn, Hanoverton United, Campbell Memorial, Wickliffe, Indian Valley, Chippewa, Sandy Valley and Beachwood just wouldn't prepare Big Red for the playoffs, even if it (as would usually be likely) would go 10-0. Nothing against those schools, but they're not, year in, year out, top football powers.

Last year Clinton Massie went 10-0 in the regular season and thought it would go far. Its 10 wins were agains D3, 4 and 5 teams, all in its somewhat rural area:
Blanchester (D4, 2-8), Waynesville (D4, 8-2), Alder (D4, 9-1), Hillsboro (D3, 2-8), Miami Trace (D3, 2-8), London (D4, 5-5), McClain (D3, 6-4), Washington (D3, 8-2), Madison Plains (D4, 1-9) and East Clinton (D5, 8-2). Three of those teams made the playoffs (2 D4, 1D3).

All of those teams, excepting Alder, played basically the same type of schedule. That simply doesn't prepare a team to play Alter, Coldwater, Kenton, Steubenville, Genoa, OG, Chagrin Falls, Hartley, etc.

Alter played Fairmont (D1, 2-8), East Tech (D2, 2-7), Centerville (D1, 8-2), Purcell (D4, 1-9), Badin (D5, 5-5), McNicholas (D3, 8-2), Carroll (D2, 7-3), Fenwick (D4, 7-3), Roger Bacon (D3, 7-3) and Chaminade-Julienne (D3, 4-6). Five of those opponents were playoff teams (1 D1, 1D2, 2 D3, 1D5). Any of those teams, except East Tech and Purcell, would more often than not beat any of Massie's opponents, except Alder.

You don't have to play a D1 schedule and get beaten up physically, but you have to mix it up a little to make yourself more competitive, if you're going to compete at the state level.

Some people aren't interested in that. They'd rather complain than improve

They feel success should be handed to them

Rocket08;803950 wrote:Some people aren't interested in that. They'd rather complain than improve

They feel success should be handed to them

Agreed, those people are called, "public schools", those who DO have it handed to them have no need to complain....Those people are called "privates schools".

skank;803972 wrote:Agreed, those people are called, "public schools", those who DO have it handed to them have no need to complain....Those people are called "privates schools".

There are some public schools who play very tough schedules. All of the MAC members except for one are public. They play a very tough scheduled, and it prepares them for the playoffs.

rmolin73;803562 wrote:The fact that you think that the MAC has D4 teams lets me know that you talk just for the sake of talking.

Moony vs colwater d-4 championship a frew years ago

Thinthickbigred;804035 wrote:Moony vs colwater d-4 championship a frew years ago

That was in '07. Coldwater went down to D5 in '09, and they haven't had a school above D5 in the MAC since.

Sherm, Don't complicate this thread with facts

Certain people cannot handle the actual facts, that's why they make-up their own and accuse others (with no proof) of what they've actually been shown to be guilty of


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A new proposal is being worked on now. Change is on the way or there will be a split.

Viking;804398 wrote:A new proposal is being worked on now. Change is on the way or there will be a split.

lol

Viking;804398 wrote:A new proposal is being worked on now. Change is on the way or there will be a split.

What is it ?

Whatever it is, I plan to embrace it.

Change we can believe in, Hope for the future!!!!

Embrace the Change!!!

Now we are getting somewhere!!

skank;803972 wrote:Agreed, those people are called, "public schools", those who DO have it handed to them have no need to complain....Those people are called "privates schools".

Skank

What do you know about a school's "privates"? Are you related to Congressman Weiner?

Dean Wormer;804967 wrote:Skank

What do you know about a school's "privates"? Are you related to Congressman Weiner?

Otter got your old lady and did her . Dean Wormer

Thinthickbigred;804978 wrote:Otter got your old lady and did her . Dean Wormer

It could have been worse. She could have done Bluto or D Day.

skank;803972 wrote:Agreed, those people are called, "public schools", those who DO have it handed to them have no need to complain....Those people are called "privates schools".

Some minds are not only closed, they actively fight to remain so. Pity, really.

Dean Wormer;805167 wrote:It could have been worse. She could have done Bluto or D Day.

I dont know she was pretty drunk ..I think Bluto may have got seconds