NBA Western Conference Final: OKC Thunder vs Dallas Mavericks

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May 24, 2011 12:19am
Would you trade the #1 for him?
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May 24, 2011 12:21am
Keep the team together. Let perkins be healthy and used to the system. All the young guys will improve, baby steps.
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May 24, 2011 12:22am
jpake1;778372 wrote:Would you trade the #1 for him?
This year? Hell no. Other years with actual talent...it would depend, it would be a possibility
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May 24, 2011 12:22am
jpake1;778375 wrote:Keep the team together. Let perkins be healthy and used to the system. All the young guys will improve, baby steps.

I personally think they need a different Center. Perkins is overrated and with the way OKC runs its offense (fast paced and fast break oriented) Perkins is just a big slow waste of space to them
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May 24, 2011 12:26am
That's a problem imo. They don't play great defense when they need it, and have poor halfcourt sets in the clutch. They could use a slower paced game that more resembles playoff ball. Perk is fine, just what they need at center.
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May 24, 2011 12:29am
Just what they need at Center? Hes pretty overrated IMO.

And Playoff basketball is a pretty broad term. I mean all 4 teams lef tin the playoffs favor a fast paced game with more posessions and lots of transition points
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May 24, 2011 12:40am
Then stop thinking people think he's more than what he is. He's no allstar talent. He's poor on offense. He's an average rebounder. But he has the toughness of playoff basketball and defensive attitude it takes to win slower paced games. Have you watched the ecf?
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May 24, 2011 12:42am
I know he has toughness to play in a slower paced game. But the Center position is changing, it no longer really favors slow lumbering centers. And when your PG(Westbrook) is almost as good of a rebounder as your Center...thats a problem.

And yes ive watched the ECF. Both teams are playing great defense so tis slowed down transition buckets. But int heir previous series both teams prefer to get a rebound, out let and score before the opposing defense sets

Edit juts looked, Westbrook is only at 5 rebounds per game. Thought he was 6.5 or so, my bad
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May 24, 2011 12:55am
Not when you your pg and sf make up for it. He could improve there though. The center position doesn't really favor anybody anymore. Young guys simply arent learning the skill sets like players before them. Every team would like easy baskets because of transition, but fast paced teams simply don't win nowadays. Its the teams with defense that can score in the halfcourt that win. Dallas has the ability to play that way and will in the finals. Okc cant.
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May 24, 2011 9:20am
It's not necessarily that they make up for it. Take Kevin Love, great rebounder, and put him on the Heat roster--his numbers will go down. Perkins plays with 2 perimeter guys (Durant and Westbrook) who are going to get up and get 10 boards a game between them. So it doesn't necessarily mean that he sucks, as long as he puts a body on somebody then he's doing his job.

I thought the same about Perkins to an extent, he's looked exposed not playing with the Big 4 in Boston. But he's a good C for the Thunder. Would they rather have Jeff Green in this series? Maybe, but that's just this one series--against most other teams, including both in the East, you'd rather have Perkins. Once Westbrook learns how to actually play the PG position, which will happen, they'll be just fine. In this case, this year, they just ran into a desperate team that wants it more and is on a roll. Led by veteran talent, they just get it done.

And honestly, I have no been very impressed with Durant as this series has gone on. He isn't really helping Westbrook play like an actual PG. Neither is Scott Brooks for that matter.
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May 24, 2011 9:33am
Hb31187;778407 wrote:I know he has toughness to play in a slower paced game. But the Center position is changing, it no longer really favors slow lumbering centers. And when your PG(Westbrook) is almost as good of a rebounder as your Center...thats a problem.

And yes ive watched the ECF. Both teams are playing great defense so tis slowed down transition buckets. But int heir previous series both teams prefer to get a rebound, out let and score before the opposing defense sets

Edit juts looked, Westbrook is only at 5 rebounds per game. Thought he was 6.5 or so, my bad

Are you drunk?
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May 24, 2011 9:35am
Hb31187;778407 wrote: And yes ive watched the ECF. Both teams are playing great defense so tis slowed down transition buckets. But int heir previous series both teams prefer to get a rebound, out let and score before the opposing defense sets

Both teams still want to do that. And try to do that as much as possible, but both have excellent transition defense.
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May 25, 2011 10:20pm
Anyone watching?
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May 25, 2011 10:21pm
Skyhook79;778553 wrote:Are you drunk?
dynamite drop in
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May 25, 2011 10:25pm
wildcats20;781027 wrote:Anyone watching?

Yes.

And holy hell, the announcers, the halftime crew everyone is just ripping on Westbrook. They are trying their hardest to drive a wedge between him and Durant it seems. Feel bad for the kid kinda
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May 25, 2011 10:25pm
Hb31187;781040 wrote:Yes.

And holy hell, the announcers, the halftime crew everyone is just ripping on Westbrook. They are trying their hardest to drive a wedge between him and Durant it seems. Feel bad for the kid kinda

Is he playing well?
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May 25, 2011 10:27pm
wildcats20;781042 wrote:Is he playing well?

Not bad, not well.

6-15 13 points 3 assists 1 turnover
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May 25, 2011 10:28pm
wildcats20;781042 wrote:Is he playing well?


I flipped over for 2 possessions and he took two straight horrible shots without passing the ball. Durant had Terry on him and wanted the ball.
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May 25, 2011 10:36pm
That is a terrible call on Ibaka
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May 25, 2011 10:49pm
Thats nto a damn Technical. And Terry was askin for it
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May 25, 2011 10:53pm
Hb31187;781130 wrote:Thats nto a damn Technical. And Terry was askin for it

how is it not, he just straight pushed him out of bounds in front of the ref for no reason
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May 25, 2011 10:54pm
He bumped him, and Terry flailed out of bounds. After coming up knowing Westbrook was calling a timeout and wrapping him up pretty much.
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May 25, 2011 10:57pm
he was pressuring the ball and westbrook extended his arms fully and threw him out of bounds, stupid move by russell
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May 25, 2011 10:59pm
Pressuring a time out call that he knew was coming? Its a dick move and an overreaction selling it to get a T called
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May 25, 2011 11:02pm
Hb31187;781054 wrote:Not bad, not well.

6-15 13 points 3 assists 1 turnover

doing way better than Durant