Automatik;781830 wrote:Haha Small might be planning his move from Columbus as I type this. How stupid can you be?

Automatik;781838 wrote:You know how people are in Cbus. That fool better plan to be harassed whenever he shows his face in public.

the_system;781848 wrote:Mark Titus is supposedly getting harrassed pretty good over his comments. Small as well.

At what point do the OSU crazies realize that people closer to the situation (closer to the players than watching them on TV every saturday) might actually be telling the truth? So far it has been people speaking out and/or showing their observations of what is going on around them, followed by some die hards who follow that up with some 'you broke the guy-code/secret club/dawgz-fo-life' shit.

the_system;781848 wrote:Mark Titus is supposedly getting harrassed pretty good over his comments. Small as well.

At what point do the OSU crazies realize that people closer to the situation (closer to the players than watching them on TV every saturday) might actually be telling the truth? So far it has been people speaking out and/or showing their observations of what is going on around them, followed by some die hards who follow that up with some 'you broke the guy-code/secret club/dawgz-fo-life' shit.

Automatik;781853 wrote:What did Titus say?

the_system;781848 wrote:Mark Titus is supposedly getting harrassed pretty good over his comments. Small as well.

At what point do the OSU crazies realize that people closer to the situation (closer to the players than watching them on TV every saturday) might actually be telling the truth? So far it has been people speaking out and/or showing their observations of what is going on around them, followed by some die hards who follow that up with some 'you broke the guy-code/secret club/dawgz-fo-life' shit.

LJ;781860 wrote:Titus is self admittedly not close to the situation and Small sounds like a pissed off kid calling children's services because he got spanked by his parents

JerseyBuck;781864 wrote:If you have Twitter, now would be an excellent time to get on. Players past and present are going after Smalls and not only them, people who grew up with Smalls who have no connection to Ohio State.

Do I think Ray Small sold his stuff? Wouldn't doubt it. He also mentioned how he and others were educated on this stuff by compliance but he ignored it and did what he wanted. That shows he was educated and a blind eye was not turned, like some want to believe.

With that being said, you really have to consider the source. Ray Small AND his father most definitely have a vendetta against Tressel and Ohio State because Tressel actually disciplined him.

As far as what Titus said, honestly, what is it other than someone else offering an opinion? He said himself he doesn't have all the facts. While it's still early, the car story is started to be debunked (see Gibson actually paying for the car and also using a trade in). But again, it's still early so we'll see what comes of that.

To get back to Twitter for a second, Ray Small's latest tweet is about us "making him a legend". Thats Ray Smalls in a nutshell.

Automatik;781867 wrote:I don't have any issue with what Titus said. I've said it before...I worked at the Blackwell as an undergrad. Players were in and out of there all the time rollin in dealer plated cars. It was a regular thing.

the_system;781888 wrote:Then why would you have an issue with what Smalls said? All he did was say it was going on, which even you say you noticed it on the regular. Is it because his teammates expected him to lie or just cover up anything he knew? I'll wait until everything is final, but if it comes out that Smalls was telling the truth and getting harassed for it, the players giving him shit now should be strung up for it. Because more than likely they know shit but won't say anything because of their 'guy code' bullshit.

the_system;781888 wrote:Then why would you have an issue with what Smalls said? All he did was say it was going on, which even you say you noticed it on the regular. Is it because his teammates expected him to lie or just cover up anything he knew? I'll wait until everything is final, but if it comes out that Smalls was telling the truth and getting harassed for it, the players giving him shit now should be strung up for it. Because more than likely they know shit but won't say anything because of their 'guy code' bullshit.

FatHobbit;781916 wrote:http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/ncaa/05/26/ohio.state.ap/index.html?sct=hp_t2_a17&eref=sihp

So was this the big article?

karen lotz;781862 wrote:And all Titus did was give his observation that a lot of football players were driving nice cars, and a lot of times they were newer Chargers, which is what others have said as well. He also said he would find it hard to believe they could afford them with the money that scholarship players were given, which he was for 2 years. He is closer to the situation than anyone outside of the football program, and a lot closer than you are as well as anyone who is calling him out for throwing his school under the bus.

JerseyBuck;781919 wrote:Guy has been digging at OSU for a few weeks now, as well as YSU. Look a few pages back, it was talked about. Supposedly "it will end Tressel's career".

LJ;781920 wrote:Titus self admittely said he had no idea what was going on and only knew how much money they got and what cars he saw players driving.

As for me calling him out? Never did.

FatHobbit;781923 wrote:I'm waiting for it. I just hope that article isn't what all the hype was about. (Or actually I'm hoping that is the big article and there is nothing to see here.)

karen lotz;781925 wrote:I didn't say you called him out did I? I said he is closer to the situation than you are AS WELL AS anyone who is calling him out.

First of all, I don’t have any “inside information”, mostly because I didn’t play football and therefore have no idea how their program is run. I’ve never been to any of their practices, I never once hung out with any of the players, I went to completely different tattoo parlors and car dealerships when I was at OSU than they did, and the envelopes full of cash I received always came from a different booster than their cash came from (I had a class with Ross Homan one quarter, and we worked on group projects together and usually sat by each other, but I wouldn’t exactly say we “hung out” really). Also, I’ve only ever talked to Jim Tressel twice in my life, with the first of these occasions being when he came to one of our practices during my sophomore year

LJ;781930 wrote:Once again, he SELF ADMITTEDLY said he was NOT close to the situation besides a few meetings and meeting Tressel twice.



In other words he was as close to the situation as any other student.