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May 2, 2011 2:42 AM
hoops23;756905 wrote:Nobody is saying Tillman is more special than any other person. We obviously feel the same way, but again, it's just more newsworthy when it's somebody "everybody" knows.

It shouldn't be.....
May 2, 2011 2:42am
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May 2, 2011 2:43 AM
Tiger2003;756893 wrote:Are you a fucking idiot...I don't have a leg because I was in this fucking war....I don't have a brother because he was in this fucking war......His 3 kids now don't have a father because their dad gave his life...

I would argue that you being that affected by these wars makes you less, not more of an expert on it, and your opinion less, not more valid.

You cannot have a sensible opinion on the matter therefore you should probably shut up. You being a veteran does not give you the right to speak for every other veteran, nor make you an expert on what should/shouldn't be covered by the American media. Just go to bed and quit swearing on this thread, some people happen to be happy that a mass murderer of thousands of Americans is dead.
May 2, 2011 2:43am
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May 2, 2011 2:43 AM
bigkahuna;756900 wrote:Money and fame isn't anything. How many kids did Tillman have? Is that worth more than any sum of money?

Tillman had 0 kids and was engaged.
May 2, 2011 2:43am
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May 2, 2011 2:43 AM
elbuckeye28;756902 wrote:Well it's just not feasible for the news to focus on every death. Just like Heath Ledger, Michael Jackson, Brittany Murphy, got a lot of coverage while people die everyday. They aren't any more special, in fact many are pretty bad people, but they are more newsworthy deaths.

Exactly... In fact, why stop at soldiers deaths? Why not make every police officer, fire fighter, teacher, etc, death major news?

Because it's not feasible or realistic.

When somebody dies, that America knows, it'll be news..
May 2, 2011 2:43am
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May 2, 2011 2:43 AM
Tiger2003;756906 wrote:How am I fucking degrading a soldiers....I said Tillman was not any more special then any other soldier...

I don't think most people think that Tillman is more special, but more people care to hear about a professional athlete dying than someone they never knew existed.
May 2, 2011 2:43am
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May 2, 2011 2:44 AM
elbuckeye28;756902 wrote:Well it's just not feasible for the news to focus on every death. Just like Heath Ledger, Michael Jackson, Brittany Murphy, got a lot of coverage while people die everyday. They aren't any more special, in fact many are pretty bad people, but they are more newsworthy deaths.

I get that. If anything, he SHOULDN'T have gotten the ESPN special and all of the other media attention that he got. He should have been treated like every other soldier brought back in a casket. The statue at Uof Phx Stadium is alright because that's how his "community" wants to remember him.
May 2, 2011 2:44am
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May 2, 2011 2:44 AM
Tiger2003;756906 wrote:How am I fucking degrading a soldiers....I said Tillman was not any more special then any other soldier...

I'm thinking I took one of your posts the wrong way when you were probably talking about Tillman and i thought you meant any soldier. If so, I apologize. I'm trying to re-read them to see.
May 2, 2011 2:44am
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May 2, 2011 2:44 AM
hoops23;756911 wrote:Exactly... In fact, why stop at soldiers deaths? Why not make every police officer, fire fighter, teacher, etc, death major news?

Because it's not feasible or realistic.

When somebody dies, that America knows, it'll be news..
I don't understand how some people can't grasp this concept.
May 2, 2011 2:44am
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May 2, 2011 2:45 AM
Mooney44Cards;756909 wrote:I would argue that you being that affected by these wars makes you less, not more of an expert on it, and your opinion less, not more valid.

You cannot have a sensible opinion on the matter therefore you should probably shut up. You being a veteran does not give you the right to speak for every other veteran, nor make you an expert on what should/shouldn't be covered by the American media. Just go to bed and quit swearing on this thread, some people happen to be happy that a mass murderer of thousands of Americans is dead.


Did I said I was not happy? NO I am happy that he is dead....
May 2, 2011 2:45am
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May 2, 2011 2:46 AM
bigkahuna;756913 wrote:I get that. If anything, he SHOULDN'T have gotten the ESPN special and all of the other media attention that he got. He should have been treated like every other soldier brought back in a casket. The statue at Uof Phx Stadium is alright because that's how his "community" wants to remember him.

Ehhhh there was a demand for the special so it was offered. The news is just like anything else, they show what people want to see.
May 2, 2011 2:46am
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May 2, 2011 2:46 AM
Tiger2003;756893 wrote:Are you a fucking idiot...I don't have a leg because I was in this fucking war....I don't have a brother because he was in this fucking war......His 3 kids now don't have a father because their dad gave his life...

From someone who lost his father due to complications from serving in the US Army on multiple tours of duty, just shut the fuck up already. Go see a god damn psychiatrist.
May 2, 2011 2:46am
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May 2, 2011 2:47 AM
I know. The media goes with what will get people to tune in.
May 2, 2011 2:47am
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May 2, 2011 2:48 AM
Tobias Fünke;756918 wrote:From someone who lost his father due to complications from serving in the US Army on multiple tours of duty, just shut the fuck up already. Go see a god damn psychiatrist.

Um...No...sorry about your father....but I have a right to say what I want just like the rest of you do..
May 2, 2011 2:48am
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May 2, 2011 2:48 AM
Tiger2003;756916 wrote:Did I said I was not happy? NO I am happy that he is dead....

....but you want the major news networks to ignore the thousands of people celebrating in the streets and say: "Now on to more sobering news, another soldier has died after a IED explodes in Afghanistan....." I mean honestly dude, not only would that only fill up like 15 or 20 minutes of news per day, CNN and the other 24-hour news networks have TWENTY FOUR HOURS to fill, big news like this only happens like 3 or 4 times a year and they have to milk it for all its worth because PEOPLE WHO CARE ARE PEOPLE WHO WATCH YOUR STATION.
May 2, 2011 2:48am
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May 2, 2011 2:49 AM
Well I have work @ 10 am so I'm out. Hopefully this thread is a bit more on track tomorrow, though I doubt it.
May 2, 2011 2:49am
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May 2, 2011 2:49 AM
Mooney44Cards;756921 wrote:....but you want the major news networks to ignore the thousands of people celebrating in the streets and say: "Now on to more sobering news, another soldier has died after a IED explodes in Afghanistan....." I mean honestly dude, not only would that only fill up like 15 or 20 minutes of news per day, CNN and the other 24-hour news networks have TWENTY FOUR HOURS to fill, big news like this only happens like 3 or 4 times a year and they have to milk it for all its worth because PEOPLE WHO CARE ARE PEOPLE WHO WATCH YOUR STATION.

The sad thing is they don't even get 5 minutes.
May 2, 2011 2:49am
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May 2, 2011 2:50 AM
And it's obviously working. Here we are watching it or talking about it for like 4 hours
May 2, 2011 2:50am
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May 2, 2011 2:51 AM
Tiger2003;756923 wrote:The sad thing is they don't even get 5 minutes.

They do get coverage locally, where it touches the people who they meant the most too.

I just don't get your reasoning with this.
May 2, 2011 2:51am
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May 2, 2011 2:52 AM
Tiger2003;756923 wrote:The sad thing is they don't even get 5 minutes.

This sounds bad but, if they spent time on every soldiers death, most wouldn't watch it anyways unless it was of special interest to them(i.e. local individual).
May 2, 2011 2:52am
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May 2, 2011 2:52 AM
Midstate01;756924 wrote:And it's obviously working. Here we are watching it or talking about it for like 4 hours

Hell, I even switched to Fox News for a few minutes just to get a break from CNN.
May 2, 2011 2:52am
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May 2, 2011 2:53 AM
One last thing:

The reason this should get major air play is because of the victory it gives America. The good feeling that the objective was completed in getting Osama. Almost 10 years to the day he plotted the attack on our country, we have news that we got him.

This is GOOD NEWS. It's "feel good news".. It's news that will lift spirits across our country...
May 2, 2011 2:53am
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May 2, 2011 2:53 AM
elbuckeye28;756926 wrote:This sounds bad but, if they spent time on every soldiers death, most wouldn't watch it anyways unless it was of special interest to them(i.e. local individual).

That is really really said...
May 2, 2011 2:53am
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May 2, 2011 2:54 AM
This might be a great thing tonight but this wont be a great thing in the weeks to come.
May 2, 2011 2:54am
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May 2, 2011 2:55 AM
Tiger2003;756929 wrote:That is really really said...

Why though? It doesn't mean they aren't sorry for the death of someone else.
May 2, 2011 2:55am
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May 2, 2011 2:56 AM
Tiger2003;756929 wrote:That is really really said...

Plus how many ppl really watch CNN every day or even the nightly news of CBS, abc, NBC?? I rarely do. So you still would have a small percentage of people seeing the news of a death. When it's someone of this magnitude, the whole USA and most if the world is tuned in.
May 2, 2011 2:56am