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Apr 23, 2011 1:44 PM
All I have to say...

In my job, I oversee certain financial activities for several hundred clients, including a number of union trust funds. A small number of them are usually under some sort of federal court supervision, in which we have to advise a trustee or court officer of all funds remitted to the client.

In the past three years, I have had exactly one company/corporation under such an arrangement. Fifteen percent of my union trust funds are under this sort of order at any given time.

When every seventh union is stealing your money, I really can't see how it helps anyone.
Apr 23, 2011 1:44pm
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Apr 23, 2011 5:12 PM
Writerbuckeye;748264 wrote:Right, because in state government your boss can just promote you because you're a good worker (and suck up) -- of wait, NO HE CAN'T. The union rules get in the way. Who is it that doesn't know the contract rules?

You're right about one thing: the union did get the better of me in one instance. They were successful at keeping a drunk on the job, despite the fact that she (1) did no work (2) left work without permission and then went to a bar to get drunk several times a week (3) had a foul mouth and a poor disposition. She was a great example of a public union in action -- and one all the union bosses and members should be very proud of. A drunk kept her job while some other, more deserving person was unable to move up.

Thankfully, I did end up taking a job (a much, much better one) away from that nonsense and didn't have to deal with it.

judging from your inane response i would imagine the union got the best of you more often than not. according to you, you werent in the union. you merely dealt with them. so as far as your employment you werent governed by union rules. which i'm sure was a enjoyable experience for yourself . so that you could suck up a belly full spooge to try and climb the ladder just like any other unqualified hired stooge. so apparently you didnt even know that union rules didnt pertain to you.
Apr 23, 2011 5:12pm
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Apr 23, 2011 8:11 PM
Writerbuckeye;748074 wrote:I was a both a member of AFSCME as a state employee and had to deal with union reps as a supervisor. I saw first-hand all the waste that goes on (union reps that do nothing all day but union tasks but are paid by the state), spending time protecting people who should have long ago been fired, and generally disrupting business all in the name of flexing union muscle and little more.

If unions are such a great thing and not just about power and money -- then let's make union membership VOLUNTARY in Ohio. Nobody has to belong, and nobody has to pay fair share.

Do that, and I have no problem with unions of any kind because they truly are a voluntary organization.
KnightRyder;748474 wrote:judging from your inane response i would imagine the union got the best of you more often than not. according to you, you werent in the union. you merely dealt with them. so as far as your employment you werent governed by union rules. which i'm sure was a enjoyable experience for yourself . so that you could suck up a belly full spooge to try and climb the ladder just like any other unqualified hired stooge. so apparently you didnt even know that union rules didnt pertain to you.

Did you skip the part where WB stated that he was a member of a union and that he dealt with union reps as a union member or is your reading comprehension as bad as your grammar?
Apr 23, 2011 8:11pm
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Apr 23, 2011 8:48 PM
Like any 16 year old -- he was so focused on using the word "spooge" that everything else was just a blur.
Apr 23, 2011 8:48pm
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Apr 23, 2011 11:37 PM
dwccrew;748526 wrote:Did you skip the part where WB stated that he was a member of a union and that he dealt with union reps as a union member or is your reading comprehension as bad as your grammar?

i seen it, but judging from his further remarks . i believe it was bullshit. just like the rest of his posts
Apr 23, 2011 11:37pm
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Apr 24, 2011 6:14 AM
KnightRyder;748618 wrote:i seen it
Spoken like a true union man.
Apr 24, 2011 6:14am
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Apr 24, 2011 7:29 AM
My two top fave poliforum posters:

#1 - Gibby
#2 - KnightRyder
Apr 24, 2011 7:29am
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Apr 24, 2011 7:59 AM
CenterBHSFan;748723 wrote:My two top fave poliforum posters:

#1 - Gibby
#2 - KnightRyder
Gibby, KnightRyder, Glory Days, Bigdogg and Stlouiedipalma are my favorite blue collar unionists.

Boatshoes and Footwedge are my favorite white collar liberals. :p
Apr 24, 2011 7:59am
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Apr 24, 2011 2:39 PM
believer;748727 wrote:Gibby, KnightRyder, Glory Days, Bigdogg and Stlouiedipalma are my favorite blue collar unionists.

Boatshoes and Footwedge are my favorite white collar liberals. :p

best part is, i am technically not even in a union!
Apr 24, 2011 2:39pm
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Apr 24, 2011 2:52 PM
believer;748716 wrote:Spoken like a true union man.

spoken like a man with a paper asshole
Apr 24, 2011 2:52pm
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Apr 24, 2011 4:02 PM
KnightRyder;748825 wrote:spoken like a man with a paper asshole
very nice :rolleyes:
Apr 24, 2011 4:02pm
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Apr 24, 2011 4:08 PM
Wow, someone gets his little feelings hurt very easily.

You know there's a cure for that: Don't post like an ill-bred illiterate.
Apr 24, 2011 4:08pm
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Apr 24, 2011 4:13 PM
Writerbuckeye;748869 wrote:Wow, someone gets his little feelings hurt very easily.

You know there's a cure for that: Don't post like an in-bred illegitimate.
fixed

I kid, KnightRyder. :p
Apr 24, 2011 4:13pm
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Apr 24, 2011 7:37 PM
Writerbuckeye;748869 wrote:Wow, someone gets his little feelings hurt very easily.

You know there's a cure for that: Don't post like an ill-bred illiterate.

not hardly , i just find it funny how a guy goes from elected union official to company supervisor? thats some story.
Apr 24, 2011 7:37pm
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Apr 24, 2011 8:38 PM
I have no idea what you're talking about -- and apparently, neither do you.
Apr 24, 2011 8:38pm
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Apr 24, 2011 9:21 PM
believer;748727 wrote:Gibby, KnightRyder, Glory Days, Bigdogg and Stlouiedipalma are my favorite blue collar unionists.

Boatshoes and Footwedge are my favorite white collar liberals. :p

Thank you, thank you, thank you. I'm proud that you consider me a blue collar unionist even though I was with management. The union officials I fought with on a weekly basis would be confused if they knew this.
Apr 24, 2011 9:21pm
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Apr 24, 2011 11:13 PM
Writerbuckeye;749059 wrote:I have no idea what you're talking about -- and apparently, neither do you.

your bullshit story is what i was referring to
Apr 24, 2011 11:13pm
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mella

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Apr 24, 2011 11:35 PM
Having grown up in a union city, Erie Pa, and being a teacher I would say that unions hurt productivity and make it difficult to get rid of lazy employees.
Apr 24, 2011 11:35pm
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Apr 24, 2011 11:52 PM
KnightRyder;749148 wrote:your bullshit story is what i was referring to

You mean the one you apparently didn't read correctly...alrighty then.
Apr 24, 2011 11:52pm
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Apr 25, 2011 12:46 PM
Writerbuckeye;749180 wrote:You mean the one you apparently didn't read correctly...alrighty then.

no the one you didnt write correctly....alrighty then.
Apr 25, 2011 12:46pm
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Apr 25, 2011 2:54 PM
Gibby, KnightRyder, Glory Days, Bigdogg, Stlouiedipalma, Ty Webb, Boatshoes and Footwedge ….. Please pick up my pallets and 50 gallon drums Belly Entitlement Program for Unions. My employees are not Union so they will help you. Don’t mention you’re in the Union I convinced them that Unions are Anti-American Socialist / Marxist Organization and that why you’re out of work. :)




Hey! If you guys do stop by can we have a beer or two as friends... can you do that?
Apr 25, 2011 2:54pm
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Apr 25, 2011 3:05 PM
KnightRyder;749039 wrote:not hardly , i just find it funny how a guy goes from elected union official to company supervisor? thats some story.

Did writer just call someone a name and get away with it again? Maybe writer and LJ are the same person?
Apr 25, 2011 3:05pm
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Apr 25, 2011 3:08 PM
Bigdogg;749711 wrote:Did writer just call someone a name and get away with it again? Maybe writer and LJ are the same person?

Apr 25, 2011 3:08pm
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Apr 25, 2011 3:14 PM
KnightRyder;748825 wrote:spoken like a man with a paper asshole
I love that saying Talk like a man with a paper asshole

I thought I was to only one that ever uses that saying... Note: I picked that saying up when I worked in the fork truck dept at Timken.
Apr 25, 2011 3:14pm
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Apr 25, 2011 4:39 PM
Belly35;749691 wrote:Hey! If you guys do stop by can we have a beer or two as friends... can you do that?
Only if they can tax you on the beer and you buy the first round. :p
Apr 25, 2011 4:39pm