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Apr 9, 2011 9:04 AM
We had some powerful hitting in the mid to late 90's....it was a lot of fun to watch.
Apr 9, 2011 9:04am
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Apr 9, 2011 11:12 AM
ts1227;735687 wrote:They did get face to face, and the benches cleared, but they didn't end up throwing any punches.

the benches didnt clear till julian tavares plunked a brewers hitter . but that was after belle was hit by a pitch.
Apr 9, 2011 11:12am
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Apr 9, 2011 11:15 AM
BRF;735854 wrote:Yeah, Paul Sorrento batting ninth. I'm going to have to go back and look up those 95 96 line-ups. I always disagreed with Hargrove batting Omar in the 2 spot and instead move him to 9 to move those big sticks up! Ah, the old days.
actually sandy alomar batted ninth in 95
Apr 9, 2011 11:15am
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Apr 9, 2011 11:34 AM
royal_k;736109 wrote:I would agree with this. It was all coming together and wham, the fucking strike happened. They were playing the best of any team in baseball at that time.

maybe maybe not . as i recall the indians were 1 1/2 games back at the time of the strike. but had they made the world series the indians would have had home field adavantage. the 95 team was a much better team. the pitching was hands down better. i still say if it wasnt for that atlanta braves strike zone ( which is the size of a utility shed) the tribe wins in 5 games. how can anyone forget home plate umpire joe brinkman 15 feet behind the cather calling ball strikes?
Apr 9, 2011 11:34am
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Apr 9, 2011 11:39 AM
I definately remember Maddox and Glavin getting strikes called that were well off the outside corner. Once they got it established, they stayed there. And Brinkman was a joke behind the plate to say the least.
Apr 9, 2011 11:39am
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Apr 9, 2011 11:40 AM
Fab4Runner;735277 wrote:??


Looks like someone got rejected by Big Ben.
Apr 9, 2011 11:40am
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Apr 9, 2011 1:05 PM
KnightRyder;736844 wrote:actually sandy alomar batted ninth in 95

OK OK....gimme a break, I'm old. I looked up those line ups and found some interesting reading, one of which: In 1994, in 4 of the first 10 games, Thome batted 8th and Ramirez 9th! And, in 95, Pena batted in the 9th hole 72 times to Alomar's 35.
Apr 9, 2011 1:05pm
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Apr 9, 2011 1:14 PM
royal_k;736807 wrote:Does anyone remember the back to back to back HRs that the Tribe hit off an Angel closer (can't think of his name) in the 9th inning? The last HR gave them the lead. I think it was Thome, Belle, Ramirez but I'm not sure. And it wasn't off Lee Smith.
I'm pretty sure it was 3 homers in a row.
Apr 9, 2011 1:14pm
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Apr 9, 2011 1:19 PM
royal_k;736854 wrote:I definately remember Maddox and Glavin getting strikes called that were well off the outside corner. Once they got it established, they stayed there. And Brinkman was a joke behind the plate to say the least.
Exactly!. And all the pundits were saying..."well, that's their strike zone, and the Indians have to adjust". What? Adjust? A year or 2 later, Selig did away with umpires having their "own" strike zones. The Indians got jobbed by the National League umps that year....don't care if people call me a sore loser.

That year, the tribe was 100-44 and Atlanta was 90-54. Yet bookies established Atlanta as a 17-10 favorite to win the Series. I remember losing more than a few dollars on that series. :)
Apr 9, 2011 1:19pm
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Apr 9, 2011 1:20 PM
Art Modell;736856 wrote:Looks like someone got rejected by Big Ben.

Yeah, fab fought off his rape attempt.
Apr 9, 2011 1:20pm
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Apr 9, 2011 1:22 PM
royal_k;736807 wrote:Does anyone remember the back to back to back HRs that the Tribe hit off an Angel closer (can't think of his name) in the 9th inning? The last HR gave them the lead. I think it was Thome, Belle, Ramirez but I'm not sure. And it wasn't off Lee Smith.

I was AT that game! It was Murray, Thome, Ramirez, I think. THAT was a great memory!
Apr 9, 2011 1:22pm
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Apr 9, 2011 1:40 PM
During their 1995 run, when I was in college, the Indians provided two fun memories for me.

1. Believe it would have been early in their playoff run or late in the regular season. In my house, a friend and I were planning an all-nighter. I had an exam the next day and he was using my computer to churn out a paper. Around midnight or so, one of my housemates and one of my friend's housemates come into the house after being at the bars. Yelling "EDDD-IIIEEEE MUUURRRRR-AAAAYYYY" at the top of their lungs while walking upstairs to my room. Turns out he hit a walkoff homer to win whatever game it was. Turns out they entered my room with a bottle of whiskey, a pipe and the desire to continue the celebration. Turns out my studying got derailed for two or three hours.

2. I believe this might have been the first game of the World Series. Me, my two housemates and a friend of one of them who was working in Athens and, essentially a housemate since he lived there even though he wasn't on the lease were planning a party for all our group of friends. Basically a BYOB thing with each of us who lived there either bringing a case of beer or bottle of whiskey to make sure no one ran out too early in the night. About an hour or so before the game started...city-wide blackout. No TV for us. We scrambled to find a radio, find batteries for the radio, find candles and get every bit of ice in the freezer to keep the beer as cool as possible. Because of the blackout, none of the other friends showed up, so the four of us wound up getting obliterated while listening to the game on the radio. Fucking great time!
Apr 9, 2011 1:40pm
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Apr 9, 2011 4:09 PM
Footwedge;736897 wrote:Exactly!. And all the pundits were saying..."well, that's their strike zone, and the Indians have to adjust". What? Adjust? A year or 2 later, Selig did away with umpires having their "own" strike zones. The Indians got jobbed by the National League umps that year....don't care if people call me a sore loser.

That year, the tribe was 100-44 and Atlanta was 90-54. Yet bookies established Atlanta as a 17-10 favorite to win the Series. I remember losing more than a few dollars on that series. :)
adjust to what? its either in the strike zone or it isnt. no wonder the braves pitching staff won all those cy young awards.
Apr 9, 2011 4:09pm
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Apr 9, 2011 6:11 PM
KnightRyder;736983 wrote:adjust to what? its either in the strike zone or it isnt. no wonder the braves pitching staff won all those cy young awards.
And that was the problem. Several here have pointed out that the strike zone was 5 inches off the outside corner. The obvious advantage was for finesse pitchers with pin point control....like Maddux and Glavine.
Apr 9, 2011 6:11pm
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Apr 9, 2011 7:32 PM
Footwedge;737046 wrote:And that was the problem. Several here have pointed out that the strike zone was 5 inches off the outside corner. The obvious advantage was for finesse pitchers with pin point control....like Maddux and Glavine.

Yeah it was rough, but I still remember eric gregg's strike zone for levin hernandez vs the braves in 97. He was calling strikes a foot off the corner...lol
Apr 9, 2011 7:32pm
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Apr 9, 2011 9:37 PM
KnightRyder;736844 wrote:actually sandy alomar batted ninth in 95
Actually Tony Pena played a lot more than Sandy that year.
Apr 9, 2011 9:37pm
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Apr 9, 2011 10:27 PM
Footwedge;737135 wrote:Actually Tony Pena played a lot more than Sandy that year.

Ah yes, see post #82.

BRF remembers back in 1963 when the Tribe hit 4 homers in a row. Woody Held in the 8 hole, the pitcher Pedro Ramos, then to the top of the order by my man Tito Francona, followed by Larry Brown. There are Soooooo many great trivia questions to ask on all the stuff that has been posted on this thread!
Apr 9, 2011 10:27pm
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Apr 9, 2011 11:39 PM
Kind of a cheesy video, but it has the Ramirez shot off of Eck at :20

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Apr 9, 2011 11:39pm
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Apr 9, 2011 11:41 PM
Also a clip of Belle flexing at the BoSox at 1:00.
Apr 9, 2011 11:41pm
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Apr 10, 2011 12:26 AM
Good stuff, Wildcat!..........all the way from Alaska? Awesome!
Apr 10, 2011 12:26am
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Apr 10, 2011 12:33 AM
Footwedge;737046 wrote:And that was the problem. Several here have pointed out that the strike zone was 5 inches off the outside corner. The obvious advantage was for finesse pitchers with pin point control....like Maddux and Glavine.
5 inches off the corner? what corner , the corner down the street? they were callin pitches that where further than 5 inches off the plate strikes.
Apr 10, 2011 12:33am
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Apr 10, 2011 12:34 AM
wes_mantooth;737083 wrote:Yeah it was rough, but I still remember eric gregg's strike zone for levin hernandez vs the braves in 97. He was calling strikes a foot off the corner...lol
yea he gave hernandez the atlanta braves strike zone and bobby cox didnt like it.
Apr 10, 2011 12:34am
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Apr 10, 2011 1:06 AM
Footwedge;737135 wrote:Actually Tony Pena played a lot more than Sandy that year.

Because of injuries, but Alomar was the starter when healthy.
Apr 10, 2011 1:06am
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Apr 10, 2011 3:32 AM
royal_k;736807 wrote:Does anyone remember the back to back to back HRs that the Tribe hit off an Angel closer (can't think of his name) in the 9th inning? The last HR gave them the lead. I think it was Thome, Belle, Ramirez but I'm not sure. And it wasn't off Lee Smith.

Troy Percival?
Apr 10, 2011 3:32am
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Apr 10, 2011 10:11 AM
kayo;737284 wrote:Troy Percival?

Bingo!!
Apr 10, 2011 10:11am