tcarrier32;735216 wrote:thats not what they need, all that does is further prove you are inept at educating children. there are bad kids at schools, no amount of physical pain will make them change their ways. I'd also be willing to bet you'd pick and choose who to paddle and who to not, because most high school athletes would probably put you in your place.
The point of smacking a kids ass is to do it when they're YOUNG, and then you only have to do it a few times and the kid figures out real quick that shit's not going to fly...the biggest problem is that so many parents let their kids do whatever the hell they want until they're 8, 9, 10 years old because they're just "being a kid", that by the time they get to that age, it's already too late. And if you can't tell, I respect your opinion, but I wholeheartedly disagree with your statement. Growing up around bunch of kids, you could always tell who got their ass smacked and who didn't, and you can still largely tell today even though myself and my friends are around the 22-25 age range. The kids that got disciplined, and were made to behave from a young age, are the group of my friends that don't act like the world is ending and don't act like they're entitled to do whatever they want. I have several friends who didn't get that, and they're nice enough people, but they're the biggest bunch of whiny bitches that you'd ever meet if anything doesn't go their way, because nobody ever MADE them realize from a young age that not everything is about what they want, and just because shit doesn't go your way all the time, doesn't mean you get to act like an idiot and throw a fit about it.
Also, I fail to see how disciplining children at school adversly affects their education? I grew up in a school that the principal was allowed to paddle kids if their parents gave him permission...they had a form for it and everything...and nobody's education suffered for it. As a matter of fact, my class Valedictorian was the first kid that I ever remember seeing get paddled in a principals office. He is obviously intelligent, so that was the LAST time he ever got paddled at school too. It doesn't take to long to figure it out when there are REAL consequences for your actions, instead of an abstract discipline that kids that are 4-8 years old don't understand. Time outs are abstract concepts that work for children who are older because they understand abstract concepts. Younger kids don't. Therefore, you can either do something that works and that they will understand, or you can keep doing something that doesn't work.
And just fyi, I don't believe anyone was talking about paddling high school students. Again, that goes back to my point about parents and schools doing it at a younger age. The point of doing it then is that by the time kids reach a high school age, they already have all that shit figured out and know how to behave and don't need paddled, and other sorts of punishment replace paddling. And this kid is a prime example of it being on the borderline of too late.
