NCAA could view Ohio State as "repeat violator"

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Ty Webb
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Mar 23, 2011 12:22am
http://www.10tv.com/live/content/osufootball/stories/2011/03/22/story-columbus-tressel-ncaa-investigation.html?sid=102

If given "repeat violator" status,they could lose up to two seasons of play,scholarships for athletes,and recruiting privileges
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Mar 23, 2011 1:22am
I certainly don't see them getting any years of no play but certainly scholarship and recuiting sanctions could come!
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Mar 23, 2011 2:11am
I am still waiting to see how the NCAA punishes Tressel and what news comes out with this whole situation. I still think Tressel may have forwarded the e-mails and someone else covered up. Either way, it leads to OSU violations, but I think Tressel is taking one for the team here.
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Mar 23, 2011 6:38am
As this goes on, I think the odds of Tress going away keep increasing. Eventually Ohio State will probably get wind of what the punishment might be, and then they will have a choice. Tennessee figured the punishment might be a little more in their favor of they got rid of Pearl
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Mar 23, 2011 6:50am
Ohio State makes the NCAA too much money to ban them.
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Mar 23, 2011 8:39am
bases_loaded;721515 wrote:Ohio State makes the NCAA too much money to ban them.

Like the famous quote "“the NCAA was so mad at Kentucky, it gave Cleveland State two more years of probation”
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WebFire
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Mar 23, 2011 8:59am
bases_loaded;721515 wrote:Ohio State makes the NCAA too much money to ban them.

USC didn't make them money?
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Mar 23, 2011 9:09am
WebFire;721594 wrote:USC didn't make them money?

USC doesn't have the largest alumni association or largest university in the country. USC doesn't participate in the most NCAA sanctioned sports in the country either. If it wasn't about money the NCAA would've banned these kids from the BCS game last year.
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Mar 23, 2011 9:49am
WebFire;721594 wrote:USC didn't make them money?
Plus U$C should have been hit with stiffer penalities and sanctions! The NCAA went easy on them. Bush and co. accepted financial benefits totaling more than $100,000, whereas OSU's six players in question received benefits IN TOTAL of $7,555. Hardly the same.
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Mar 23, 2011 10:09am
WebFire;721594 wrote:USC didn't make them money?
Not even close to OSU money.
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Mar 23, 2011 10:38am
Scarlet_Buckeye;721624 wrote:Plus U$C should have been hit with stiffer penalities and sanctions! The NCAA went easy on them. Bush and co. accepted financial benefits totaling more than $100,000, whereas OSU's six players in question received benefits IN TOTAL of $7,555. Hardly the same.

Not to mention, the OSU players sold THEIR stuff...the USC kids were GETTING PAID.
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WebFire
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Mar 23, 2011 10:52am
I'm not comparing the violations folks. The thought put forward was that the NCAA won't do much because OSU makes them too much money. But you people don't think USC does? They still took away schollies and did post-season ban, did they not?
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Mar 23, 2011 10:55am
Do we really need a "New" thread to discuss this same old shit? We all know OSU fucked up and Tressel may keep his job, or he may not.
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vball10set
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Mar 23, 2011 10:59am
september63;721696 wrote:Do we really need a "New" thread to discuss this same old shit? We all know OSU fucked up and Tressel may keep his job, or he may not.

but then what would all the haters do? same posters, different threads--let 'em hate (9-1) :D
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Mar 23, 2011 11:01am
WebFire;721691 wrote:I'm not comparing the violations folks. The thought put forward was that the NCAA won't do much because OSU makes them too much money. But you people don't think USC does? They still took away schollies and did post-season ban, did they not?

USC has fans when they are good...in LA...OSU fanbase is much larger and is always buying shit.
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Mar 23, 2011 11:29am
It's March 23, 2011, has Florida learned how to snap the ball yet?
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WebFire
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Mar 23, 2011 11:46am
bases_loaded;721705 wrote:USC has fans when they are good...in LA...OSU fanbase is much larger and is always buying shit.

I don't think it's as big of a spread as you want to think.
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Mar 23, 2011 11:48am
I think its a larger one than you think.
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Mar 23, 2011 12:10pm
Scarlet_Buckeye;721624 wrote:Plus U$C should have been hit with stiffer penalities and sanctions! The NCAA went easy on them. Bush and co. accepted financial benefits totaling more than $100,000, whereas OSU's six players in question received benefits IN TOTAL of $7,555. Hardly the same.
Uh, that's not the issue here. The main problem was that Tress knew information about violations and he did not share it with Ohio State or the NCAA. Sure TP and the boys committed infractions, but those are in the past. The punishment has already been levied.

The major crackdowns occur when somebody purposefully witholds information from the NCAA. The punishment is only worse when it happens multiple times at a university
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Mar 23, 2011 12:22pm
I am really starting to believe Tress is trying to take the fall and that he actually disclosed it possibly to Smith or the compliance office and they said keep it hush. I am leaning towards that theory and am even more scared the Bucks and JT will suffer at the hands of NCAA.
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Mar 23, 2011 12:28pm
jordo212000;721792 wrote:Uh, that's not the issue here. The main problem was that Tress knew information about violations and he did not share it with Ohio State or the NCAA. Sure TP and the boys committed infractions, but those are in the past. The punishment has already been levied.

The major crackdowns occur when somebody purposefully witholds information from the NCAA. The punishment is only worse when it happens multiple times at a university

This. In terms of what they are looking at regarding the repeat violator thing, the amount of money or what the players did at all is not relevant. It only focuses on an institution being dishonest multiple times. To discuss any other part of it regarding this is just to create a diversion.

Now, they still may be gentle because OSU brings in money, but who knows.
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stlouiedipalma
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Mar 23, 2011 12:30pm
Has anyone determined when the NCAA will make its decision? I've got a bad feeling about this.
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vball10set
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Mar 23, 2011 12:41pm
Fab1b;721807 wrote:I am really starting to believe Tress is trying to take the fall and that he actually disclosed it possibly to Smith or the compliance office and they said keep it hush. I am leaning towards that theory and am even more scared the Bucks and JT will suffer at the hands of NCAA.

I've susbscribed to this theory from the beginning, and if it is true, we WILL suffer--and big time.
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Mar 23, 2011 12:46pm
I guess at this point it wouldn't surprise me if Ohio State was informed by Tress and they simply ignored his heads up.

With that being said, I find it hard to believe that Tress is taking the fall for anybody. He is the most popular man at Ohio State and we all know the football department is king. I'm not sure why Tress needs to take the fall for anybody
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WebFire
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Mar 23, 2011 12:56pm
bases_loaded;721765 wrote:I think its a larger one than you think.

Honest question. How does the NCAA make more money from a 11-1 OSU than a 7-5 OSU, that is not brought in my another successful school?