2011 Cleveland Cavalier Offseason/Draft

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Apr 11, 2011 11:11pm
T Wolves are winning at the half, lets hope they pull it out
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Apr 11, 2011 11:15pm
I wouldn't worry too much about having the worst record. The worst team has only won the lottery like twice in the last 20 years.
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Apr 12, 2011 8:55am
hoops23;738823 wrote:I wouldn't worry too much about having the worst record. The worst team has only won the lottery like twice in the last 20 years.

Last time it happened was when the Cavs got Judas.

I'm not worried about it, would be nice to have the odds in our favor though
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Apr 12, 2011 9:42am
KR1245;739080 wrote:Last time it happened was when the Cavs got Judas.

I'm not worried about it, would be nice to have the odds in our favor though

Magic with Howard I thought as well?
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Apr 12, 2011 11:20am
Commander of Awesome;739113 wrote:Magic with Howard I thought as well?

I think you might be right
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Apr 12, 2011 11:23am
Correct that was the last time the team with the worst record got the #1 pick. Since then the 6th worst and 5th worst have each won twice, 9th worst once and 2nd worst once.
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Apr 12, 2011 1:44pm
grodt;739188 wrote:Correct that was the last time the team with the worst record got the #1 pick. Since then the 6th worst and 5th worst have each won twice, 9th worst once and 2nd worst once.
Cavs currently have the 2nd worst record and own the rights to the pick of the 6th worst team. So we're in a spot that 3 of the last 6 lottery winners were in :)
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Apr 12, 2011 3:16pm
mucalum49;739320 wrote:Cavs currently have the 2nd worst record and own the rights to the pick of the 6th worst team. So we're in a spot that 3 of the last 6 lottery winners were in :)

I thought I read the clippers are locked into the 8th worst record? Am I missing something?
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Apr 13, 2011 7:14pm
Not really a surprise but worth noting that Derrick Williams declared for the draft today.
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Apr 13, 2011 7:55pm
grodt;740752 wrote:Not really a surprise but worth noting that Derrick Williams declared for the draft today.

Irving and Williams? Its a long shot but that would be awesome
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Apr 13, 2011 8:00pm
We would probably have to pull an "upset" with the Clippers pick but it would be amazing.
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Apr 13, 2011 8:02pm
Still hopes the cavs make the trade with detroit to get their lottery.
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Apr 13, 2011 8:03pm
Seems a lot of the PGs are coming out..I'd rather us get Kanter, Williams, or Barnes with our first pick..then get whoever is left of Irving, Walker, or Knight
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Apr 13, 2011 8:30pm
Pick6;740795 wrote:Seems a lot of the PGs are coming out..I'd rather us get Kanter, Williams, or Barnes with our first pick..then get whoever is left of Irving, Walker, or Knight

Barnes isn't coming out, or atleast he hasn't said he is.

You have to get your PG with the 1st pick imo.
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Apr 13, 2011 9:04pm
I saw that some scouts have said that Williams is a "tweener" he doesnt have the speed or jumper to be a true 3 in the NBA. Hes not big enough to be a true 4. This worries me a little bit. I havent seen the kid play enough, this is just something that I saw
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Apr 18, 2011 9:58am
People said the same thing about Michael Beasley coming out. Also just saw that Barnes is officialy going back to UNC now. I think its a dumb move financially as I think he'd be a top 3 pick. Also hurts the talent in the lottery.
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Apr 18, 2011 10:44am
Commander of Awesome;743579 wrote:People said the same thing about Michael Beasley coming out.

And Beasley was a BEAST this year for Minnesota.
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Apr 18, 2011 12:00pm
Not looking good, I'd say the Cavs will be taking a Euro big man with their 2nd pick now. Has Terrence Jones decided yet?
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Apr 18, 2011 12:07pm
lhslep134;743620 wrote:And Beasley was a BEAST this year for Minnesota.

Not on defense.
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Apr 18, 2011 1:06pm
dave;743703 wrote:Not looking good, I'd say the Cavs will be taking a Euro big man with their 2nd pick now. Has Terrence Jones decided yet?

That blows. Euro's have a huge failure rate lately.
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Apr 18, 2011 1:26pm
"Who do we keep from this year's team?"


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Apr 18, 2011 2:22pm
lhslep134;743776 wrote:That blows. Euro's have a huge failure rate lately.

I actually like Kanter. He can mix it up and get physical when he needs to. Unlike when we had Z.
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dave
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Apr 18, 2011 3:07pm
Unless the Cavs get lucky in the lotto Kanter won't be there with the Clippers' pick.
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Apr 18, 2011 3:14pm
BR1986FB;743887 wrote:I actually like Kanter. He can mix it up and get physical when he needs to. Unlike when we had Z.

And all of these lottery picks that were taken over the last 9 years have "been liked" as well:

2002
5-Nikoloz Tskitishvili

2003
2-Darko Miličić

2004
8-Rafael Araújo
11-Andris Biedri&#326;&#353; <<just because you've heard of him doesn't mean he's not garbage

2005
11-Fran Vázquez
12- Yaroslav Korolev

2006
10- Mouhamed Sene

2007
6-Yi Jianlian


The only ones who have panned out are Yao (sorta), Gallinari, and Bargani. Two #1's and a #6.

I'd much rather take an American.
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Apr 18, 2011 3:15pm
depends on where in the lottery the clippers pick is. It could wind up being a high pick with the system.