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Mar 16, 2011 12:20 AM
reclegend22;711723 wrote:I wouldn't want Duke playing in the NIT, and I hope we'd decline. Duke is not an NIT school. If it so happens that Duke doesn't have the kind of year that warrants an NCAA bid, then that particular team's season deserves to be over. I agree whole heartedly with Gary Williams of Maryland with regard to the CBI and ACT or whatever the hell. At a basketball power, you win or you go home. And you do NOT play in a third-party tournament. For goodness sake.

The NIT -- and especially now the CBI -- has become a complete joke for traditional basketball schools. This is 2011. Harry S. Truman isn't president anymore.

1980-1981 begs to differ.
Mar 16, 2011 12:20am
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Mar 16, 2011 12:25 AM
And before you go an find the NIT dates for Carolina, I don't care.
Mar 16, 2011 12:25am
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Mar 16, 2011 12:56 AM
wildcats23 wrote:1980-1981 begs to differ.
In 1980-81, the Back to the Future franchise was still five years away from production. Lol. To entertain a reference that would resonate with the events of present day, Chernobyl wouldn't happen for another six years. Larry Bird had yet to win an NBA championship, the Southern Methodist Mustangs were college football's greatest power and Christa McAuliffe had yet to go to space. While that last point is beyond impolite, you get my drift.

Since that season, the Duke brand has grown into, arguably, the most powerful, successful and recognizable brand in the sport of college basketball. Since 1986, Duke and Coach K have run off 11 Final Fours, 4 national titles, 8 national championship game appearances, 13 ACC championships, more NCAA tournament wins -- and a higher NCAA winning percentage -- than any other school, more national players of the year (10), more national defensive players of the year, more All-Americans, more weeks spent at No. 1, et cetera. I was going to go get my Duke book and list more but I am now tired.

So, yeah, a big lol at 1980-81. Does that mean that K today wouldn't accept an NIT bid? No. But I sure hope he wouldn't. Because, right now, with how dominant Duke has been over the past two-plus decades, the Blue Devils are too good for it. (As Az said, though, it probably does, to some degree, depend on the specific year in question, the roster dynamic, and so forth.)

I can, however, see how that would be hard for a North Carolina fan to deal with. Especially being that each 2002-03 and 2009-10 beg to differ. Oh, and 8 and 20 :)
Mar 16, 2011 12:56am
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Mar 16, 2011 1:00 AM
Good game between Kent St. and St. Mary's on ESPN2.
Mar 16, 2011 1:00am
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Mar 16, 2011 1:02 AM
Kid from St. Mary's is a 91% FT shooter and has gone 1-4 from the line. Another is a 55% shooter and hit 2 big free throws. Go figure...St. Mary's up 3 with 24.9 left
Mar 16, 2011 1:02am
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Mar 16, 2011 1:03 AM
Kent St. just got a bucket and then St. Mary's fumbled the inbound out of bounds back to Kent St. Kent down 1 with :10 left chance for the win.
Mar 16, 2011 1:03am
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Mar 16, 2011 1:04 AM
good finish coming
Mar 16, 2011 1:04am
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Mar 16, 2011 1:04 AM
wow kent state got bailed out on the timeout call..i thought they were gonna call a foul
Mar 16, 2011 1:04am
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Mar 16, 2011 1:06 AM
Kent St. scores a quick 2 (why not go for the last shot?) St. Mary's inbounds then calls timeout with 2.6 left. That last play by Kent was executed very well.
Mar 16, 2011 1:06am
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Mar 16, 2011 1:07 AM
St. Mary's misses a layup as time expires. Kent wins.

Impressive win for the Flashes. They haven't had much rest time since losing the MAC final and then having to fly out to California. They were trailing almost the entire game but fought back and got a nice road win.
Mar 16, 2011 1:07am
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Mar 16, 2011 1:08 AM
damn! actually rooting for kent in the NIT though. Maybe we can get some MAC recognition.
Mar 16, 2011 1:08am
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Mar 16, 2011 1:10 AM
I usually root for certain MAC schools in big tournaments. Also a kid from my high school plays for Kent so I tend to root for them.
Mar 16, 2011 1:10am
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Mar 16, 2011 1:31 AM
FML last week is now more pathetic.
Mar 16, 2011 1:31am
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Mar 16, 2011 1:38 AM
CinciX12;713745 wrote:FML last week is now more pathetic.

huh?
Mar 16, 2011 1:38am
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Mar 16, 2011 1:53 AM
I think he's referring to Dayton losing at the College of Charleston, but I could be wrong. The Xavier Minutemen lost to Dayton in their conference tournament.
Mar 16, 2011 1:53am
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Mar 16, 2011 6:14 AM
ts1227;710670 wrote:NIT
Left bracket:
No. 1 Alabama Crimson Tide vs. No. 8 Coastal Carolina Chanticleers 68-44
No. 4 New Mexico Lobos vs. No. 5 UTEP Miners 69-57
No. 3 Missouri State Bears vs. No. 6 Murray State Racers 89-76
No. 2 Miami Hurricanes vs. No. 7 Florida Atlantic Owls on Wednesday at 11 pm

No. 1 Colorado Buffaloes vs. No. 8 Texas Southern Wednesday at 7 pm
No. 4 California Golden Bears vs. No. 5 Mississippi Rebels on Wednesday at 9 pm
No. 3 Colorado St. Rams vs. No. 6 Fairfield Stags 62-60
No. 2 St. Mary's Gaels vs. No. 7 Kent St. Golden Flashes 71-70

Right bracket:
No. 1 Boston College Eagles vs. 8 McNeese St. Cowboys 82-64
No. 4 Northwestern Wildcats vs. No. 5 Milwaukee Panthers on Wednesday at 8 pm
No. 3 Oklahoma St. Cowboys vs. No. 6 Harvard Crimson 71-54
No. 2 Washington St. Cougars vs. No. 7 Long Beach St. 49ers on Wednesday at 10 pm

No. 1 Virginia Tech Hokies vs. No. 8 Bethune-Cookman Wildcats on Wednesday at 8 pm
No. 4 Wichita St. Shockers vs. No. 5 Nebraska Cornhuskers on Wednesday at 7 pm
No. 3 Dayton Flyers vs. No. 6 Charleston Cougars 94-84
No. 2 Cleveland St. Vikings vs. No. 7 Vermont Catamounts 63-60

CIT
MONDAY
Buffalo (19-13) @ Quinnipiac (22-10) 75-68

TUESDAY
Ohio (19-15) @ Marshall (22-12) 65-64
Furman (22-11) @ East Tennessee State (23-11) 76-63
Jacksonville (20-11) @ East Carolina (18-16) 71-66(OT)
Rider (23-11) @ Northern Iowa (20-13) 84-50
North Dakota (19-15) @ Air Force (16-15) 77-67
Northern Arizona (19-13) @ Santa Clara (20-14) 68-63
Portland (20-12) @ Hawaii (19-12) 76-64

WEDNESDAY
Tennessee Tech (20-12) @ Western Michigan (20-12) 7:00 pm
Iona (22-11) @ Valparaiso (23-11) 8:00 pm
Oral Roberts (19-15) @ SMU (17-14) 8:00 pm
Idaho (18-13) @ San Francisco (17-14) 10:00 pm

CBI
Tuesday
James Madison (21-12) at Davidson (18-14) 85-65
San Jose State (17-15) at Creighton (19-14) 85-74
Hofstra (21-12) at Evansville (16-15) 77-70
Austin Peay (20-14) at Boise State (21-12) 83-80

Wednesday
Miami (Ohio) (16-16) at Rhode Island (19-13), 5 p.m.
St. Bonaventure (16-14) at UCF (19-11), 6 p.m.
Duquesne (18-12) at Montana (21-10), 7:05 p.m.
Weber St. (18-13) at Oregon (16-17), 8 p.m.


http://www.gazellegroup.com/events/cbi/index_main.htm
http://www.collegeinsider.com/tournament/
Yet another update to current standings with winners in bold and scores underlined.
Records are also updated to current/final standings.
Mar 16, 2011 6:14am
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Mar 16, 2011 11:16 AM
Most people thought that college football had too many bowls games, but this many post season basketball tournaments? This is far more ridiculous.
Mar 16, 2011 11:16am
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Mar 16, 2011 11:30 AM
krambman;713983 wrote:Most people thought that college football had too many bowls games, but this many post season basketball tournaments? This is far more ridiculous.

A little less than 40% of D1 schools get into a postseason basketball tourney. 60% get into bowl games. Some teams even make money on the basketball games (everyone loses or breaks even at best on non-bcs bowls basically)

How is this more ridiculous? Sure, both are, but how is basketball worse?
Mar 16, 2011 11:30am
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Mar 16, 2011 11:59 AM
reclegend22;713753 wrote:I think he's referring to Dayton losing at the College of Charleston, but I could be wrong. The Xavier Minutemen lost to Dayton in their conference tournament.

Correct.
Mar 16, 2011 11:59am
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Mar 16, 2011 1:47 PM
Well, THE Ohio U won their first game by one over Marshall in one of those "who gives a flying fuck" tournaments! YAY!
Mar 16, 2011 1:47pm
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Mar 16, 2011 2:31 PM
As for what is worse.....welll...if you have a winning record in football.....you are pretty much guarenteed a bowl game. Any above 500 teams not get invited to play in those two joke tournaments? I dont know...hard to tell because some schools decline the invite.

many teams lose money going to bowl games.
Mar 16, 2011 2:31pm
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Mar 16, 2011 10:35 PM
NIT - First Round
Left bracket:
No. 1 Alabama Crimson Tide (22-11) vs. No. 8 Coastal Carolina Chanticleers (28-6) 68-44
No. 4 New Mexico Lobos (22-12) vs. No. 5 UTEP Miners (25-10) 69-57
No. 3 Missouri State Bears (26-8) vs. No. 6 Murray State Racers (23-9) 89-76
No. 2 Miami Hurricanes (20-14) vs. No. 7 Florida Atlantic Owls (21-11) 85-62

No. 1 Colorado Buffaloes (22-13) vs. No. 8 Texas Southern (19-13) 88-74
No. 4 California Golden Bears (18-14) vs. No. 5 Mississippi Rebels (20-14) 77-74
No. 3 Colorado St. Rams (19-13) vs. No. 6 Fairfield Stags (25-7) 62-60
No. 2 St. Mary's Gaels (25-9) vs. No. 7 Kent St. Golden Flashes (24-11) 71-70

Right bracket:
No. 1 Boston College Eagles (21-12) vs. 8 McNeese St. Cowboys (21-12) 82-64
No. 4 Northwestern Wildcats (19-13) vs. No. 5 Milwaukee Panthers (19-14) 70-61
No. 3 Oklahoma St. Cowboys (20-13) vs. No. 6 Harvard Crimson (23-7) 71-54
No. 2 Washington St. Cougars (20-12) vs. No. 7 Long Beach St. 49ers (22-12) 85-74

No. 1 Virginia Tech Hokies (22-11) vs. No. 8 Bethune-Cookman Wildcats (21-13) 79-54
No. 4 Wichita St. Shockers (25-8) vs. No. 5 Nebraska Cornhuskers (19-13) 76-49
No. 3 Dayton Flyers (22-14) vs. No. 6 Charleston Cougars (25-10) 94-84
No. 2 Cleveland St. Vikings (27-8) vs. No. 7 Vermont Catamounts (23-9) 63-60

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NIT - Second Round
Left bracket:
(1) Alabama Crimson Tide (23-11) vs. (4) New Mexico Lobos (22-13) 74-67
(2) Miami Hurricanes (21-14) vs. (3) Missouri State Bears (26-9) 81-72

(1) Colorado Buffaloes (23-13) vs. (4) California Golden Bears (18-15) - 89-72
(6) Fairfield Stags (25-8) vs (7) Kent St. Golden Flashes (25-11) 72-68

Right bracket:
(1) Boston College Eagles (21-13) vs. (4) Northwestern Wildcats (20-13) - 85-67
(2) Washington St. Cougars (21-12) vs. (3) Oklahoma St. Cowboys (20-14) 74-64

(1) Virginia Tech Hokies (22-12) vs. (4) Wichita St. Shockers (26-8) 79-76(OT)
(2) Cleveland St. Vikings (27-9) vs. (6) Charleston Cougars (26-10) 64-56

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CIT - First Round
Monday, March 14, 2011
Buffalo (19-13) @ Quinnipiac (22-10) 75-68

Tuesday, March 15, 2011
Ohio (19-15) @ Marshall (22-12) 65-64
Furman (22-11) @ East Tennessee State (23-11) 76-63
Jacksonville (20-11) @ East Carolina (18-16) 71-66(OT)
Rider (23-11) @ Northern Iowa (20-13) 84-50
North Dakota (19-15) @ Air Force (16-15) 77-67
Northern Arizona (19-13) @ Santa Clara (20-14) 68-63
Portland (20-12) @ Hawaii (19-12) 76-64

Wednesday, March 16, 2011
Tennessee Tech (20-13) @ Western Michigan (21-12) 74-66
Iona (23-11) @ Valparaiso (23-12) 85-77
Oral Roberts (19-16) @ Southern Methodist (18-14) 64-57(OT)
Idaho (18-14) @ San Francisco (18-14) 81-73

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CIT - Second Round
Friday, March 18, 2011
Santa Clara Broncos (21-14) vs. Air Force Falcons (16-16) 88-75

Saturday, March 19, 2011
Western Michigan Broncos (21-13) vs. Buffalo Bulls (20-13) 49-48
Southern Methodist Mustangs (19-14) vs. Jacksonville Dolphins (20-12) 63-62
Hawaii Warriors (19-12) vs. San Francisco Dons (19-12) 77-74

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CIT - Quarterfinals
Monday, March 21, 2011
Southern Methodist Mustangs (20-14) @ Northern Iowa Panthers (20-14) 57-50

Tuesday, March 22, 2011
Ohio Bobcats (19-15) @ East Tennessee State Buccaneers (23-11) - 7pm
Buffalo Bulls (20-13) @ Iona Gaels (23-11) - 7:30pm
Santa Clara Broncos (21-14) @ San Francisco Dons (19-12) - 10pm

http://www.collegeinsider.com/tournament/

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CBI - First Round
Tuesday, March 15, 2011
James Madison (21-12) at Davidson (18-14) 85-65
San Jose State (17-15) at Creighton (19-14) 85-74
Hofstra (21-12) at Evansville (16-15) 77-70
Austin Peay (20-14) at Boise State (21-12) 83-80

Wednesday, March 16, 2011
Miami (Ohio) (16-17) at Rhode Island (20-13) 76-59
St. Bonaventure (16-15) at UCF (20-11) 69-54
Duquesne (19-12) at Montana (21-11) 87-76
Weber St. (18-14) at Oregon (17-17) 68-59

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CBI - Quarterfinals
Monday, March 21, 2011
Rhode Island Rams (20-14) @ UCF Knights (21-11) 66-54
Davidson Wildcats (18-15) @ Creighton Bluejays (21-14) 102-92
Evansville Aces (16-16) @ Boise State Broncos (22-12) 75-69
Duquesne Dukes (19-13) @ Oregon Ducks (18-17) 77-75

http://www.gazellegroup.com/events/cbi/index_main.htm
Records are also updated to current/final standings.
Winners are in bold while score is underlined
Mar 16, 2011 10:35pm
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Mar 17, 2011 7:55 AM
Updated for the second rounds
Mar 17, 2011 7:55am
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Mar 17, 2011 9:48 AM
ts1227;714931 wrote:Updated for the second rounds

Why is there a score for the Kent/Fairfield game? Is that your prediction?
Mar 17, 2011 9:48am
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Mar 17, 2011 10:46 AM
Jughead;714996 wrote:Why is there a score for the Kent/Fairfield game? Is that your prediction?

Oops. Those were their first round scores still.
Mar 17, 2011 10:46am