LJ
Posts: 16,351
Mar 15, 2011 1:35pm
Yeah, $77,000 fine for being directly responsible for a person's death is stupid. Should be more like $770,000
and I don't get the "I guess Notre Dame values a young man's life at only $77,000"
That is the amount that OSHA fined ND.
and I don't get the "I guess Notre Dame values a young man's life at only $77,000"
That is the amount that OSHA fined ND.
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Mar 15, 2011 1:51pm
LJ;713003 wrote: and I don't get the "I guess Notre Dame values a young man's life at only $77,000"
That is the amount that OSHA fined ND.
You dont get trolling?
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Mar 15, 2011 1:56pm
justincredible;713025 wrote:You dont get trolling?
the art of trolling includes using factual information. Either that was pure stupidity, or I give the attempt a -5/10
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Mar 15, 2011 2:20pm
It amazes me how sleeper is still able to do it. Props to sleeper!
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Mar 15, 2011 2:28pm
sleeper;712987 wrote:$77,000
I guess Notre Dame values a young man's life at only $77,000. What a freakin' joke.
Hell, what we call a straddle buggy (the driver drives it over a bundle of steel and picks up the load of steel from underneath) hit a woman and killed her a couple of years ago. In those, the driver is sitting so high, he can't see what's directly around him at the wheels. Well, the driver had told them that the cameras around the buggy weren't working, the horn didn't work, and the reverse beeper wasn't working for a few weeks, and they never made the repairs. After OSHA completed their investigation, they fined them a whopping $1,000.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Mar 15, 2011 2:29pm
LJ;713030 wrote:the art of trolling includes using factual information. Either that was pure stupidity, or I give the attempt a -5/10
-5/10? Man, he's movin' on up. Best score in months!
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Mar 15, 2011 2:52pm
LJ;713030 wrote:the art of trolling includes using factual information. Either that was pure stupidity, or I give the attempt a -5/10
Actually the art of trolling uses factual information in a distorted way. I'm well aware that Notre Dame doesn't value the kid at $77,000.
Either way its still a freakin' joke. Maybe $700 million would result in a negligent coach being prevented from ever harming another innocent 20-year. It's sad when even a school that represents Catholicism can't even stand up to the almighty dollar.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Mar 15, 2011 2:54pm
karen lotz;709507 wrote:I know. Hell they fine people $77,000 if they are found grossly negligent on the death of a innocent 20-year old
Fixed.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Mar 15, 2011 2:57pm
GoChiefs;713066 wrote:Hell, what we call a straddle buggy (the driver drives it over a bundle of steel and picks up the load of steel from underneath) hit a woman and killed her a couple of years ago. In those, the driver is sitting so high, he can't see what's directly around him at the wheels. Well, the driver had told them that the cameras around the buggy weren't working, the horn didn't work, and the reverse beeper wasn't working for a few weeks, and they never made the repairs. After OSHA completed their investigation, they fined them a whopping $1,000.
+1
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Mar 15, 2011 2:58pm
I was just WAITING for the barb at Catholicism. You never disappoint, sleeper.sleeper;713091 wrote:It's sad when even a school that represents Catholicism can't even stand up to the almighty dollar.
j_crazy
Posts: 8,372
Mar 15, 2011 5:02pm
kelly also forced that kid from cinci st. x to drink himself to death while on spring break.
seriously, give me a break.
seriously, give me a break.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Mar 15, 2011 8:12pm
Did Kelly tell that kid to drink on spring break?j_crazy;713226 wrote:kelly also forced that kid from cinci st. x to drink himself to death while on spring break.
seriously, give me a break.
No, but Kelly did tell that kid to go up in HEAVY WINDS on a old rackety lift. Wow, have a heart man, he was TWENTY YEARS OLD.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Mar 15, 2011 9:14pm
Nothing from sleeper surprises me. What an ignorant topic.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Mar 15, 2011 9:55pm
sleeper;713096 wrote:Fixed.
Hey dicknose, OSHA fined Notre Dame with the maximum penalty allowed under state law and also found 4 other violations. I don't know how you still don't comprehend that this ruling had nothing to do with Notre Dame. They are doing their own investigation which is ongoing.
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rydawg5
Posts: 2,639
Mar 15, 2011 10:28pm
I actually agree with sleeper on this one...
It's kind of like what happened a couple weeks ago. This "self motivator" guy is being charged with 3 homicides because he and a bunch of other people were in this sauna and he told no one to leave that they'd be okay. Well, 3 people left in body bags.. he is on trial for 3 counts of murder. (Everyone stayed voluntarily too) But because he was a man of power and respect, people put their trust in him, much like this poor kid put his life in the hands of the coach who ordered him on the tower in unreasonable conditions.
Obviously, both guys feel terrible and directly responsible for the results...but since one is viewed as a quack, he is charged, and the other was just negligent I guess. (no crime in negligence..........)
It's kind of like what happened a couple weeks ago. This "self motivator" guy is being charged with 3 homicides because he and a bunch of other people were in this sauna and he told no one to leave that they'd be okay. Well, 3 people left in body bags.. he is on trial for 3 counts of murder. (Everyone stayed voluntarily too) But because he was a man of power and respect, people put their trust in him, much like this poor kid put his life in the hands of the coach who ordered him on the tower in unreasonable conditions.
Obviously, both guys feel terrible and directly responsible for the results...but since one is viewed as a quack, he is charged, and the other was just negligent I guess. (no crime in negligence..........)
Thread Bomber
Posts: 1,851
Mar 16, 2011 8:55am
Forget a couple emails..... 250,000.00 in unpaid leave.
Kill a kid .....77,000.00 in OSSHA fine.......priceless.
Kill a kid .....77,000.00 in OSSHA fine.......priceless.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Mar 16, 2011 9:05am
Thread Bomber;713835 wrote:Forget a couple emails..... 250,000.00 in unpaid leave.
Kill a kid .....77,000.00 in OSSHA fine.......priceless.
1. No one killed the kid.
2. The fine is the maximum allowed under state law.
3. Notre Dame has its own investigation ongoing.
4. They will end up paying the family probably ten times what Tressel was fined. It won't be made public so at least you and sleeper will have something to complain about.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Mar 16, 2011 9:12am
karen lotz;713843 wrote:1. No one killed the kid.
.
Notre Dame was found to be directly responsible for his death.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Mar 16, 2011 9:13am
LJ;713848 wrote:Notre Dame was found to be directly responsible for his death.
Really? Thanks for the newsflash Dan Rather.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Mar 16, 2011 9:16am
karen lotz;713850 wrote:Really?
Did you not read the release????????
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Mar 16, 2011 9:18am
No not at all. Thanks for sharing that with me.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Mar 16, 2011 9:20am
It was a knowing violation that directly attributed to the death.
Meaning, that someone was supposed to not let them go up there, and in doing so, caused the death of the worker.
Meaning, that someone was supposed to not let them go up there, and in doing so, caused the death of the worker.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Mar 16, 2011 9:21am
Kelly and Notre Dame killed Declan Sullivan as much as Tressel and Ohio State paralyzed Tyson Gentry.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Mar 16, 2011 9:22am
LJ;713857 wrote:It was a knowing violation that directly attributed to the death.
Meaning, that someone was supposed to not let them go up there, and in doing so, caused the death of the worker.
Really? Man you really have the scoop on this one. Tell me more.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Mar 16, 2011 9:23am
karen lotz;713861 wrote:Really? Man you really have the scoop on this one. Tell me more.
You're an idiot. Are you just in denial of what the fucking regulators on workplace safety have determined through their thorough investigation? You just believe that no one was supposed to stop him and that here merely went up there on his own and unsafe work conditions did not cause his death?