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areyoukiddingme
Posts: 88
Mar 13, 2011 8:33am
Also, how did it kill more than 2,500 more? The official death toll for Katrina was roughly 1850. So, only negative lives were killed in Japan?
At this time, they are saying more than 10,000.
Let's see....that's more than 5 X's MORE than Katrina.
At this time, they are saying more than 10,000.
Let's see....that's more than 5 X's MORE than Katrina.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Mar 13, 2011 12:42pm
CinciX12;709612 wrote:How is it not? Katrina crippled a US city. This is the equivalent to crippling the entire eastern sea board of the US. How big do you think Japan is?
LOL
The US is way way bigger than Japan. Look at a map.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Mar 13, 2011 1:00pm
let's all have a mass prayer for those involved, that will clean it up
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Mar 13, 2011 1:11pm
No LOL please...this is a huge disaster that is considerably bigger than Katrina. 8.9 Earthquakes and tsunamis are way bigger than hurricaines....and there was no warning.LOL
The US is way way bigger than Japan. Look at a map.
So that the ignorance doesn't continue...some facts:
Japan is roughly the same size as California, but over 126 million people are packed into it. The mountainous interior is relatively sparsely populated while a great majority of the people live near the coastlines.
The city of Sendai is over a million people and is devastated...hundreds of thousands are homeless...and the death toll is 10,000.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/business/7470390.html
Go_Fast_Sports
Posts: 390
Mar 13, 2011 1:42pm
I just love how people in the USA are rushing to send aid to Japan when we have flooded places in Ohio, and the northeast like New Jersey that need it first... flipping amazing.
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dave
Posts: 4,558
Mar 13, 2011 11:14pm
Go_Fast_Sports;709885 wrote:I just love how people in the USA are rushing to send aid to Japan when we have flooded places in Ohio, and the northeast like New Jersey that need it first... flipping amazing.
Come on, don't even act like that is similar. There will be 10's of thousands dead if they don't get basic food, water, blankets, etc. There is plenty of aid and money here, our government is just too stupid to be able to get it there fast enough.
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dave
Posts: 4,558
Mar 13, 2011 11:15pm
Every time I read CNN this is getting worse, now they are saying another tsunami is possible.
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Mar 13, 2011 11:25pm
dave;711201 wrote:Come on, don't even act like that is similar. There will be 10's of thousands dead if they don't get basic food, water, blankets, etc. There is plenty of aid and money here, our government is just too stupid to be able to get it there fast enough.
Yeah FEMA is all messed up ever since the DOD jumblefucked everything up. The major problem with all this is the weather...it's basically the same as it is here in Northern Ohio. I couldn't imagine sitting around in this weather outside all day
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dave
Posts: 4,558
Mar 14, 2011 12:25am
all of this in 6mins, so crazy
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CinciX12
Posts: 2,874
Mar 14, 2011 1:19am
sleeper;709848 wrote:LOL
The US is way way bigger than Japan. Look at a map.
The equivalent dumbass. You know, like in proportion to. Taking into account the size disparity? Whatever you don't get it this is pointless.
The global economic impact this will have will be astounding. And because it isn't about America no one cares. Seriously for Haiti everyone was up in arms over and this gets relatively no attention in comparison. Amazing.
CinciX12
Posts: 2,874
Mar 14, 2011 1:22am
dave;711201 wrote:Come on, don't even act like that is similar. There will be 10's of thousands dead if they don't get basic food, water, blankets, etc. There is plenty of aid and money here, our government is just too stupid to be able to get it there fast enough.
We might disagree about basketball, but good lord it is nice to know there is a sane person out there that 'gets it'. This is huge. Catastrophic implications for the entire world. They might shut down their trading as a result.
The United States of America..if it isn't about us, please don't tell us about it.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Mar 14, 2011 1:48am
CinciX12;711321 wrote: The global economic impact this will have will be astounding. And because it isn't about America no one cares. Seriously for Haiti everyone was up in arms over and this gets relatively no attention in comparison. Amazing.
I won't respond to your openly lame attempt at flaming me.
But why should we care about Japan? Did Japan help us when they bombed us at Pearl Harbor? No. Did Japan send supplies to New Orleans after Katrina? No.
What goes around comes around, and you can take that to the bank.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Mar 14, 2011 1:52am
Im not going to say we shouldn't help other countries in times of need, but I do think it is kind of pointless because the majority of the world hates us and we have plenty of problems in our own country (4 trillion dollars in debt or whatever it is now). I also don't recall any other countries helping us in our times of need. Could be wrong though.
CinciX12
Posts: 2,874
Mar 14, 2011 2:19am
Not many countries adopt our philosophy of bombing a country and then cleaning it up.sleeper;711339 wrote:I won't respond to your openly lame attempt at flaming me.
But why should we care about Japan? Did Japan help us when they bombed us at Pearl Harbor? No. Did Japan send supplies to New Orleans after Katrina? No.
What goes around comes around, and you can take that to the bank.
No one should have sent money (I sure as hell didn't) to a bunch of people who A) lived in a giant hole by the ocean B) Had at least 3 days notice to leave, maybe more C) Well there is no C.
Hurricane Katrina doesn't even hold a candle to what Japan is going through.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Mar 14, 2011 2:24am
4 trillion? Try 14 trillion with 70.7 trillion in unfunded liabilities. We're absolutely fucked.Pick6;711342 wrote:Im not going to say we shouldn't help other countries in times of need, but I do think it is kind of pointless because the majority of the world hates us and we have plenty of problems in our own country (4 trillion dollars in debt or whatever it is now). I also don't recall any other countries helping us in our times of need. Could be wrong though.
And we shouldn't help people who live on an ISLAND on a fault line, in the ring of fire, and had their whole life to move.CinciX12;711364 wrote:Not many countries adopt our philosophy of bombing a country and then cleaning it up.
No one should have sent money (I sure as hell didn't) to a bunch of people who A) lived in a giant hole by the ocean B) Had at least 3 days notice to leave, maybe more C) Well there is no C.
Hurricane Katrina doesn't even hold a candle to what Japan is going through.
CinciX12
Posts: 2,874
Mar 14, 2011 2:28am
The island is at least not a hole in the ground! Bottom line is Japan effects our economy greatly. Haiti didn't effect 0.0000001% of our economy and we gave them about 5x what they needed in money.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Mar 14, 2011 6:00am
CinciX12;711368 wrote:The island is at least not a hole in the ground! Bottom line is Japan effects our economy greatly. Haiti didn't effect 0.0000001% of our economy and we gave them about 5x what they needed in money.
Haiti affected 0% of our economy. Japan is rich enough that they can handle their own problems, we have enough of our own.
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Mar 14, 2011 6:13am
sleeper;711391 wrote:Haiti affected 0% of our economy. Japan is rich enough that they can handle their own problems, we have enough of our own.
No Japan is really a huge economic power and also I mean I know we're in debt but it's good humanity to help out people in those types of situation. Besides they helped us out with a few million for Katrina and that's not close to the same level of this. The nuclear aspect of this has added a whole other nature to the disaster. Also Japan is basically like the US economically with the average GDP per person at $42,000
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Mar 14, 2011 6:20am
Classyposter58;711397 wrote:No Japan is really a huge economic power and also I mean I know we're in debt but it's good humanity to help out people in those types of situation. Besides they helped us out with a few million for Katrina and that's not close to the same level of this. The nuclear aspect of this has added a whole other nature to the disaster. Also Japan is basically like the US economically with the average GDP per person at $42,000
Japan gave $500k to the US for Katrina. Re-read the "we're in debt" until you fully understand what that means. We are broke, all the money we are giving is coming from China anyway, let them handle it.
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Mar 14, 2011 6:33am
sleeper;711398 wrote:Japan gave $500k to the US for Katrina. Re-read the "we're in debt" until you fully understand what that means. We are broke, all the money we are giving is coming from China anyway, let them handle it.
Ha well I don't blame em for not giving us money...it all woulda been looted! With that being said they NEED the manpower we're sending over since they already have 100k troops sorting through the rubble and such
Bigred1995
Posts: 1,042
Mar 14, 2011 8:19am
On a lot of topics I tend to at least lean your way, but not on this one. Where are you getting your numbers on the "Japan gave $500K to the US for Katrina."? Are you strictly talking about cash and only the government?sleeper;711398 wrote:Japan gave $500k to the US for Katrina. Re-read the "we're in debt" until you fully understand what that means. We are broke, all the money we are giving is coming from China anyway, let them handle it.
It seriously only took me 2 seconds to find this...http://www.nola.com/opinions/index.ssf/2011/03/time_to_repay_japan.html
Seriously, brining up Pearl Harbor? I don't think any American will ever forget December 7, 1941; but does August 6, & 9, 1945 ring a bell? How about Hiroshima & Nagasaki? Seriously, if there was a debt to be paid for Pearl Harbor it was paid in full on those two days!
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Mar 14, 2011 8:42am
Bigred1995;711421 wrote:On a lot of topics I tend to at least lean your way, but not on this one. Where are you getting your numbers on the "Japan gave $500K to the US for Katrina."? Are you strictly talking about cash and only the government?
It seriously only took me 2 seconds to find this...http://www.nola.com/opinions/index.ssf/2011/03/time_to_repay_japan.html
Seriously, brining up Pearl Harbor? I don't think any American will ever forget December 7, 1941; but does August 6, & 9, 1945 ring a bell? How about Hiroshima & Nagasaki? Seriously, if there was a debt to be paid for Pearl Harbor it was paid in full on those two days!
Ok I'm sorry, they gave 1 million, a whooping 500k more than I found on another site. Big deal.
I feel for the Japanese people but I also feel for the American people who will suffer the consequences of endless borrowing. If you're an American and you want to help Japan, go for it! Donate as much as you want for the cause, just leave my tax dollars out of it.
Thread Bomber
Posts: 1,851
Mar 14, 2011 8:45am
Nope... This is the interest paymentBigred1995;711421 wrote:On a lot of topics I tend to at least lean your way, but not on this one. Where are you getting your numbers on the "Japan gave $500K to the US for Katrina."? Are you strictly talking about cash and only the government?
It seriously only took me 2 seconds to find this...http://www.nola.com/opinions/index.ssf/2011/03/time_to_repay_japan.html
Seriously, brining up Pearl Harbor? I don't think any American will ever forget December 7, 1941; but does August 6, & 9, 1945 ring a bell? How about Hiroshima & Nagasaki? Seriously, if there was a debt to be paid for Pearl Harbor it was paid in full on those two days!
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Mar 14, 2011 9:26am
And honestly, Japan holds about 900 billion of our total debt. It doesn't make sense that we borrow money from Japan to help Japan.
j_crazy
Posts: 8,372
Mar 14, 2011 9:41am
Japan is one country i don't have a problem sending aid to. and given the gravity of this disaster, i'm not sure i'd be opposed to helping anyone.