Wow both sucks ...in terms of space...

I will send this photo to my daughter (Architect)

Belly35;710050 wrote:Wow both sucks ...in terms of space...

I will send this photo to my daughter (Architect)

Yeah, there isn't much space to work with. Ideally I'd like a stand up shower upstairs and keep the tub/shower downstairs because I hate showering in a clawfoot tub but without moving the toilet I don't know how to put a shower in there. Ideally the shower would be the width of the room and the toilet would move next to the vanity but I'm not sure what the cost is for moving plumbing like that.

yea that upstairs one is a tough cookie, any room to move a wall for space?

oletiger;710141 wrote:yea that upstairs one is a tough cookie, any room to move a wall for space?

Nope, we're stuck with that unfortunately.

Is the upstair bathroon widith 5 foot plus ?
If so you can remove the toilet place the tub across the back of the room tile the wall around the window. The window is a plastic so no water danage there.
Place the toilet beside the tub and larger mirror to half the wall adding a double sink and for lighting have lights hanging or eye ball or track on the ceiling.

Belly35;711123 wrote:Is the upstair bathroon widith 5 foot plus ?
If so you can remove the toilet place the tub across the back of the room tile the wall around the window. The window is a plastic so no water danage there.
Place the toilet beside the tub and larger mirror to half the wall adding a double sink and for lighting have lights hanging or eye ball or track on the ceiling.

The tub is just a little bit longer than the room is wide. If anything gets shuffled around in that room the tub is going and we are putting in a stand up shower across the back of the room like you mentioned with the tub. My only concern there is how much it is going to cost to have the toilet plumbing moved because that is one thing that I know I can't DIY.

We hate the tub so much in that bathroom so much that in the almost 3 years that we've lived there we have never once taken a shower/bath in there.

You are probably looking at about $850.00 just for the plumbing work.You may just want to fill the tub with dirt and turn it into a indoor vegetable garden.

When you say downstairs bathroom...does that mean it is in the basement, or just on the first floor? Would make a big difference in terms of what would be better for resale value.

sherm03;711512 wrote:When you say downstairs bathroom...does that mean it is in the basement, or just on the first floor? Would make a big difference in terms of what would be better for resale value.

First floor. Our basement is unfinished and unusable for anything other than storage.

password;711510 wrote:You are probably looking at about $850.00 just for the plumbing work.You may just want to fill the tub with dirt and turn it into a indoor vegetable garden.

I could live with $850 to move the toilet if it means we'll actually start using that bathroom.

Note: Solve the problem upstairs first ... the down stairs bathroom has a few more options. I would strongly suggest that you put a bathtub and shower unit or tile unit w/ shower upstairs even if the tube is smaller ... it still counts as a tub... making a full bathroom home . Plus expanding the vanity and larger mirror is a big plus (women need that viewing area) Placing a full bathroom down stairs is not a good selling point but a nice half bath with shower and storage area down stairs is a nice selling point.



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Note: You can remove the floor and redirect the plumbing drain to the toilet and also add the flexible plastic water line (http://www.ppfahome.org/pex/faqpex.html)

You should redo the flooring anyway for additional support ( I see the toilet is placed on a re-supported section of the floor) and better seal of flooring tile.
This tells me at one time something happen to the toilet drain system (should be looked into… could be a problem waiting to happen)

I used this to redo all the plumbing in my century old home (with turn off value at every junction works great and easy to install)


Chicago Architect daughter agrees...

So if it only has a shower it isn't considered a full bath?

justincredible;711537 wrote:First floor. Our basement is unfinished and unusable for anything other than storage.

Gotcha. Then I would do standing shower only in that upstairs bath. Even if it only counts as a half bath, it will be more attractive to prospective buyers than what you have now up there.

http://www.realtor.com/basics/buy/looking/lingo.asp

bathroom - a room containing a toilet, a sink, and a bathtub. Conventionally, this is regarded as a full bath. A three-quarter bath contains a toilet, a sink, and a shower; a half-bath contains a toilet and a sink; a quarter-bath typically consists of an alcove or small room with a sink.

Ah, so we'd have 1 3/4 baths. I wonder if I can get a built in tub small enough to fit in that upstairs bath. I can remember the dimensions offhand so I'll have to check when I get home.

I would ONE TRIILLION percent go with a glass stand up shower in that "upstairs" bathroom instead of a tub/shower combo!!!!

Further, I would remodel that bathroom first.

Scarlet_Buckeye;711685 wrote:I would ONE TRIILLION percent go with a glass stand up shower in that "upstairs" bathroom instead of a tub/shower combo!!!!

Further, I would remodel that bathroom first.

My wife wants downstairs done first. It's hard to argue against that.

It does make more sense for us to do the upstairs bathroom first. The downstairs is already usable and we wouldn't have to use the upstairs in its current state while the remodel is going on downstairs. I think she wants downstairs done first since it is the only bathroom that guests see or use.

You have any adjoining closets where you can knock a wall out in the upstairs then you could do a bath and a shower...

Have you ever thought of one of those walk-in shower/tubs and then putting the shower head up on the wall and installing a circular shower curtain from the ceiling? That way you've got the best of both worlds.

Similar to this would utilize the space you have:

Ask yourself this question: When showing your home to a family ...

Would an upstairs full bathroom with a larger sink area and mirror on the same level as the bedrooms be more appealing to a woman?

Look guys .... What you think about a full bathroom down stair does not count in the decision making process when coming to buying a family home…

Bathroom and Kitchen is the selling factors for women …

This isn't necessarily a home that a family would buy. Our neighbors have been in their house the past 30 years and we are the 4th owners of our house since then. When we actually have a kid we will be the first family living in this house to have kids in that span. Also, the giant master walk-in closet with washer/dryer in it is a giant selling point for women.

CenterBHSFan;711704 wrote:Have you ever thought of one of those walk-in shower/tubs and then putting the shower head up on the wall and installing a circular shower curtain from the ceiling? That way you've got the best of both worlds.

Similar to this would utilize the space you have:

The woman touch ... perfect solution .... bathtube, shower and space saving ...... very convent and a modern idea.....

Knowing our area and the potential buyers our house would draw that tub thing wouldn't help with resale. People buying houses in our area and price range will be young professional couples.