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Mar 10, 2011 5:17 PM
Fly4Fun;706672 wrote:You think Kurt Busch is going to get an off the street 1995 used Ford Taurus up to 170MPH? I don't.
I guess you've never seen what he can do behind the wheel of a car! :D
Fly4Fun;706672 wrote:My point is that the sport does have a human element... but it's more about getting power and energy from something besides the human participant.
The human participant has to get the most out of the car. You can't just jump in it and push the gas pedal down and expect to be competitive in a race.
Fly4Fun;706672 wrote:Sports are about humans pushing themselves and seeing what the human body can do. Nascar is based more off of non-human instruments than the other examples I talked about.
The driver plays a more important part in a race than the car does. Whether you want to believe it or not, drivers still have to push themselves throughout a race. It's not just hopping in the car and going. If that was the case, we could all make millions of dollars doing it. It's not that simple.
Mar 10, 2011 5:17pm
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Mar 10, 2011 5:41 PM
GoChiefs;706715 wrote:I guess you've never seen what he can do behind the wheel of a car! :D



The human participant has to get the most out of the car. You can't just jump in it and push the gas pedal down and expect to be competitive in a race.



The driver plays a more important part in a race than the car does. Whether you want to believe it or not, drivers still have to push themselves throughout a race. It's not just hopping in the car and going. If that was the case, we could all make millions of dollars doing it. It's not that simple.

And Jr would have more wins every year!!!! :D
Mar 10, 2011 5:41pm
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Mar 10, 2011 5:58 PM
Sonofanump;706679 wrote:Nascar:
Sport – yes.
Athletic – no.

Cheerleading:
Sport – no
Athletic – yes

Darts:
Sport – yes.
Athletic – no.

I believe sport involves clear parameters for scoring based upon completion of criteria. The gray area is judge athletic events such as gymnastics or figure skating, both of which are highly athletic. The exception to this is a judged event in which you can eliminate your opponent, i.e. boxing, mma...
Agree, except on darts. There is no real physical interaction between the participants that puts either competitor at risk (I do not count a stray dart here and there).
Mar 10, 2011 5:58pm
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Mar 10, 2011 5:59 PM
Fly4Fun;706687 wrote:According to this line of reasoning.

Poker:
Sport - Yes
Athletic - No

Monopoly:
Sport - Yes
Athletic - No

FPS (First Person Shooter) Video Games
Sport - Yes
Athletic - No

And again, there's no physical interaction or risk for the competitors which makes the difference for me.
Mar 10, 2011 5:59pm
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Mar 10, 2011 6:04 PM
Fly4Fun;706676 wrote:Hmm, ok. I just think that is a really bizarre distinction to make when you take a look at racing in general and determine that the different types customarily employ this system to deal with the differences between short races and long races.

Home run derby isn't a sport, but baseball is. There are variations to a lot of things that make them different, despite many similarities. It isn't the fact that it is a short race or a long race, it is that the rules are different between the variations. I see no reason to limit the definition with such a general term as "races", when they are all distinctly different events.
Mar 10, 2011 6:04pm
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Mar 10, 2011 6:09 PM
Enigmaax... that list that you quoted has nothing to do with your posts. It was directed at the person that posted the similar style of list with his criteria. I accept that you have your standard... I just believe it is foolish to delineate sports in that manner.
Mar 10, 2011 6:09pm
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Mar 10, 2011 8:22 PM
like_that;706427 wrote:Serious question. Not really trying to get GoChiefs and other resident nascar fans' panties in a bunch, but I just wanted to see what people believe, and why they believe that.

I am going to go with no, and I think its a complete waste of gas.
They do pay for it, you do realize this, right?

Empty buses running around towns, that is a waste of gas AND my tax money.
Mar 10, 2011 8:22pm
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Mar 10, 2011 9:51 PM
Just because you pay for it doesn't mean you are not wasting resources lol.
Mar 10, 2011 9:51pm
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Mar 11, 2011 12:24 AM
I don't think it's a sport. But it's definitely not something I could do personally.
Mar 11, 2011 12:24am
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Mar 11, 2011 11:24 AM
Mulva;707132 wrote:I don't think it's a sport. But it's definitely not something I could do personally.

You can't drive a standard, drive fast and make left turns?
Mar 11, 2011 11:24am
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Mar 11, 2011 12:11 PM
I will say yes it's a sport. But the drivers are certainly not athletes. Well I mean they could be but it has nothing to do with them being in NASCAR.

And hell no, we'd all wreck and die for sure.
Mar 11, 2011 12:11pm
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Mar 11, 2011 12:25 PM
National Association for Stock Car Auto Racing

You wouldn't ask is NFL a sport. You would ask if football is a sport.
Mar 11, 2011 12:25pm
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Mar 11, 2011 12:44 PM
i say its a sport, it involves not only things already mentioned like strength and stamina but also HAND EYE COORDINATION. and if fishing is a sport then NASCAR is too.
Mar 11, 2011 12:44pm
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Mar 11, 2011 12:45 PM
Technically, yea. Actually, no. And I don't get the appeal...watching hillbillies drive around in circles for hours...weeeeeeee

and how the hell do you have a favorite driver? gay-eeeee
Mar 11, 2011 12:45pm
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Mar 11, 2011 12:48 PM
many golfers are out of shape and dont sweat if its not hot, but golf is still a sport.
Mar 11, 2011 12:48pm
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Mar 11, 2011 1:33 PM
Raw Dawgin' it;707444 wrote:You can't drive a standard, drive fast and make left turns?

No I can not.
Mar 11, 2011 1:33pm
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Mar 11, 2011 1:40 PM
Mulva;707709 wrote:No I can not.

hand in your man card then
Mar 11, 2011 1:40pm
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Mar 11, 2011 2:12 PM
Raw Dawgin' it;707444 wrote:You can't drive a standard, drive fast and make left turns?

Right. Cause that's all NASCAR is about. Smh. Keep showing how clueless you are.
Mar 11, 2011 2:12pm
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Mar 11, 2011 2:15 PM
derek bomar;707603 wrote:Technically, yea. Actually, no. And I don't get the appeal...watching hillbillies drive around in circles for hours...weeeeeeee
Right. Cause guys like Jeff Gordon and Jimmie Johnson are hillbillies. Smh.
derek bomar;707603 wrote:and how the hell do you have a favorite driver? gay-eeeee
Do you not have a favorite football teams? baseball team? How the hell is it any different than that. That's one of the dumbest things I've heard.
Mar 11, 2011 2:15pm
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Mar 11, 2011 2:27 PM
GoChiefs;707866 wrote:Right. Cause that's all NASCAR is about. Smh. Keep showing how clueless you are.

sorry, i can change a tire, change my own oil and fill my car with fuel. Anything else i'm missing here? Think that covers all the basics, sign me up!
Mar 11, 2011 2:27pm
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Mar 11, 2011 2:29 PM
Raw Dawgin' it;707935 wrote:sorry, i can change a tire, change my own oil and fill my car with fuel. Anything else i'm missing here? Think that covers all the basics, sign me up!

So what you're saying is, it's so easy you can do it? So you're saying your just retarded because you aren't out there making millions of dollars doing something that's so easy? Got it.
Mar 11, 2011 2:29pm
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Mar 11, 2011 2:33 PM
GoChiefs;707942 wrote:So what you're saying is, it's so easy you can do it? So you're saying your just retarded because you aren't out there making millions of dollars doing something that's so easy? Got it.

Sorry changing tires a few times during a race and then watching the guy drive in circles sounds incredibly boring to me. These guys have basic skills that aren't anything special. Changing a tire isn't something i consider a skill so much as a necessity for anyone that drives. Also, I wouldn't want to be associated with "sport" that is supported by someone like you.
Mar 11, 2011 2:33pm
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Mar 11, 2011 2:42 PM
LMAO! Basic skills? rrriiiggghhhttt. Keep trying to convince yourself of that Jr. Like I said, I guess that just makes you the worlds biggest dumbass for not going out and making the easy money then. :rolleyes: Keep 'em comin. You look dumber and dumber.
Mar 11, 2011 2:42pm
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Mar 11, 2011 2:48 PM
Actually...I think we already know you aren't the brightest fella out there....
Raw Dawgin' it;706402 wrote:What's there not to know? 43 southerns get in their cars and drive in circles until someones wins...i don't get what's so complicated here.
GoChiefs;706424 wrote:LOL...Thanks again. Let's see...the states where the current NASCAR drivers are from....

Washington - 2
Oregon - 1
California - 10
Nevada - 3
Arizona - 2
Texas - 3
Arkansas - 1
Florida - 3
Georgia - 3
North Carolina - 5
Virgina - 4
Kentucky - 2
Tennessee - 1
Missouri - 3
Kansas - 1
Iowa - 1
Wisconsin - 4
Michigan - 1
Indiana - 5
Ohio - 3
Pennsylvania - 1
New York - 5
Massachusetts - 1
Connecticut - 1
New Jersey - 1
Outside the US - 8

So, less than 30% of the drivers are from the South. Good call, once again. Smh.
Raw Dawgin' it;706568 wrote:Texas - 3
Arkansas - 1
Florida - 3
Georgia - 3
North Carolina - 5
Virgina - 4
Kentucky - 2
Tennessee - 1
Missouri - 3

That's 24 by my count...so that'd be majority huh? Southern hill billies win.
GoChiefs;706584 wrote:LMAO! That has fail written all over it. First off, that's 25 by my count? I mean, I could be wrong. And even so...with it being 25...25 out of 75 is majority???? Where the hell did you go to school????
Mar 11, 2011 2:48pm
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Mar 11, 2011 2:56 PM
GoChiefs;707978 wrote:LMAO! Basic skills? rrriiiggghhhttt. Keep trying to convince yourself of that Jr. Like I said, I guess that just makes you the worlds biggest dumbass for not going out and making the easy money then. :rolleyes: Keep 'em comin. You look dumber and dumber.

Ha yes i feel like such a dumbass for not being associated with a "sport" (insert homo eye roll emotocon here used by teenage girls) that people associate with fat hill billies, rednecks, beer and trailer parks. Yes i think i'll keep my current job thank you.
Mar 11, 2011 2:56pm