thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Mar 4, 2011 12:43pm
thedynasty1998;699363 wrote:
You don't think there is a need and a responsibility to try to slow down the violence?
And you never answered this question. What do you propose be done?
You were very outspoken about how scary Easton is because of all the thugs out there, what do you propose?
CenterBHSFan
Posts: 6,115
Mar 4, 2011 12:51pm
Should people with baseball bats, monkey wrenches, fireplace pokers, kitchen knives, rope, scarves, vases, brooms (handles), cast iron skillets, cans ... should they all have to report to the government that they have these things and have it publicly known?thedynasty1998;699288 wrote:A gun is a deadly weapon that is responsible for violence on a daily basis. Do I think this proposal would eliminate the problems associated with guns? No. But maybe it makes a slight difference, and if it does, then it's worth it.
Quit trying to compare the watches I own to ownership of guns. It's just not the same.
Again, I'm pretty impartial to gun rights, but I hate it when people get all uptight trying to protect their "rights" that were written into the constitution 200 years ago.
At one point it was my "right" to smoke in bars, but guess what, things change, and sometimes for the better.
NO! They should not have to. Absolutely not. Even considering that those things kill people everyday.
It's not the people who legally have guns that you need to worry about.
I'm absolutely amazed that this has to be explained down to the minutest details.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Mar 4, 2011 12:52pm
thedynasty1998;699386 wrote:
How do we know what will and won't work?
You can infer it quite reasonably from similar things that have or have not worked in the past. It goes to that great (and true) saying that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Mar 4, 2011 12:55pm
thedynasty1998;699409 wrote:Do you agree that guns are far too accessible to thugs?
No. Because they bypass any laws that would be instituted
Handgun violence has been up since they outright banned handguns in the UK.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Mar 4, 2011 12:56pm
thedynasty1998;699413 wrote:And you never answered this question. What do you propose be done?
You were very outspoken about how scary Easton is because of all the thugs out there, what do you propose?
I never said Easton was scary.
What I propose be done is that the laws that are already on the books be enforced
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Mar 4, 2011 12:57pm
CenterBHSFan;699422 wrote:It's not the people who legally have guns that you need to worry about.
I'm absolutely amazed that this has to be explained down to the minutest details.
I understand that. I don't have a problem with people who own guns legally. But there is a problem with the illegal guns on the street, so how do you try to address that issue?
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Mar 4, 2011 12:58pm
LJ;699431 wrote:I never said Easton was scary.
What I propose be done is that the laws that are already on the books be enforced
Like what?
CenterBHSFan
Posts: 6,115
Mar 4, 2011 1:01pm
Because statistics show in black and white that, for example, cities who have heavy gun legislation laws have a known correlation with crimes rising. Again, it's not the average legal gun owner you need to worry about.thedynasty1998;699386 wrote:How do we know what will and won't work?
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Mar 4, 2011 1:01pm
thedynasty1998;699438 wrote:Like what?
What do you mean like what? Do you not even know what gun laws are out there and you want to institute more? Mental patients are not being reported to the NICS like they are supposed to, people not being prosecuted for selling to underage peoples. Other crimes not being reported to the NICS, etc
CenterBHSFan
Posts: 6,115
Mar 4, 2011 1:02pm
Somebody already mentioned - think your local drug dealers register their guns?
Belly35
Posts: 9,716
Mar 4, 2011 1:06pm
So by make public knowledge of those that own guns if a crimial can't buy a gun he/she can just go shopping on the website of public record and steal it for my house or the his neighbors home. Yep! that make things eazy... let make it real eazy public posting we also own a dog... and the breedthedynasty1998;699409 wrote:Do you agree that guns are far too accessible to thugs?
Public posting of this information just increased the accessiblity 10 fold
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Mar 4, 2011 1:12pm
CenterBHSFan;699444 wrote:Somebody already mentioned - think your local drug dealers register their guns?
I know they don't, and I know the problem is with unregistered guns. But because they are so accessible to the general public, they become even more accessible to the 14 year old living in the hood.
Obviously there isn't a simple solution and I don't know the answer. But I think that the people that are so pro gun might have to be open to the idea of being more restricted or be willing to register them.
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Mar 4, 2011 1:14pm
It's not hard to determine who drives a Mercedes or who is wearing a Rolex, but that doesn't mean they are getting robbed. I think this is a really poor argument for not having to register your guns with the government.Belly35;699447 wrote:So by make public knowledge of those that own guns if a crimial can't buy a gun he/she can just go shopping on the website of public record and steal it for my house or the his neighbors home. Yep! that make things eazy... let make it real eazy public posting we also own a dog... and the breed
Public posting of this information just increased the accessiblity 10 fold
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Mar 4, 2011 1:15pm
thedynasty1998;699457 wrote:
Obviously there isn't a simple solution and I don't know the answer. But I think that the people that are so pro gun might have to be open to the idea of being more restricted or be willing to register them.
You don;t even know what gun laws there are. Where is it your place to say that?
tsst_fballfan
Posts: 406
Mar 4, 2011 1:48pm
Incorrect! DC had a handgun ban in place and led the country in handgun crime during that ban.thedynasty1998;699316 wrote:Don't be so simple minded. The more accessible guns are, the more gun violence we will have. Guns are deadly weapons. That's a fact. ....
Yes but how does making a law that only affects law abiding citizens change that?thedynasty1998;699409 wrote:Do you agree that guns are far too accessible to thugs?
Try this novel idea.... punish the criminals more harshly and for longer times. But don't infringe my rights with some delusional thought that taking my rights will stop crime.thedynasty1998;699413 wrote:And you never answered this question. What do you propose be done?
You were very outspoken about how scary Easton is because of all the thugs out there, what do you propose?