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Feb 27, 2011 3:28 PM
Use some of the things the committee is supposed to look at to compare these teams. Rank them in order of most deserving of an NCAA bid. SOS numbers are from Pomeroy's website.


Team A:
Overall SOS: 131
Nonconference SOS: 284
Record vs. RPI Top 50: 2-2
Record vs. RPI Top 100: 3-5
Record. vs. Bad Teams: 16-4
Road Record vs. RPI Top 100: 1-4

Team B:
Overall SOS: 9
Nonconference SOS: 189
Record vs. RPI Top 50: 2-8
Record vs. RPI Top 100: 9-11
Record vs. Bad Teams: 9-1
Road Record vs. RPI Top 100: 4-4

Team C:
Overall SOS: 86
Nonconference SOS: 332
Record vs. RPI Top 50: 2-5
Record vs. RPI Top 100: 5-7
Record vs. Bad Teams: 13-3
Road Record vs. RPI Top 100: 1-3

Team D:
Overall SOS: 199
Nonconference SOS: 293
Record vs. RPI Top 50: 0-4
Record vs. RPI Top 100: 1-5
Record vs. Bad Teams: 22-2
Road Record vs. RPI Top 100: 0-2

Team E:
Overall SOS: 8
Nonconference SOS: 161
Record vs. RPI Top 50: 3-7
Record vs. RPI Top 100: 5-9
Record vs. Bad Teams: 12-2
Road Record vs. RPI Top 100: 1-5

Team F:
Overall SOS: 46
Nonconference SOS: 178
Record vs. RPI Top 50: 3-9
Record vs. RPI Top 100: 5-9
Record vs. Bad Teams: 14-0
Road Record vs. RPI Top 100: 2-3

Team G:
Overall SOS: 94
Nonconference SOS: 341
Record vs. RPI Top 50: 2-6
Record vs. RPI Top 100: 6-7
Record vs. Bad Teams: 12-3
Road Record vs. RPI Top 100: 0-4

Team H:
Overall SOS: 128
Nonconference SOS: 107
Record vs. RPI Top 50: 1-4
Record vs. RPI Top 100: 4-6
Record vs. Bad Teams: 19-1
Road Record vs. RPI Top 100: 1-3

Team I:
Overall SOS: 86
Nonconference SOS: 98
Record vs. RPI Top 50: 1-6
Record vs. RPI Top 100: 6-10
Record vs. Bad Teams: 11-1
Road Record vs. RPI Top 100: 1-6
Feb 27, 2011 3:28pm
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SportsAndLady

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Feb 27, 2011 3:35 PM
You're not gonna give us overall records?
Feb 27, 2011 3:35pm
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karen lotz

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Feb 27, 2011 3:37 PM
I prefer cc to make this kind of blind comparisons. He usually includes only half of the stats so it really makes you think.
Feb 27, 2011 3:37pm
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Cleveland Buck

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Feb 27, 2011 3:55 PM
SportsAndLady;693607 wrote:You're not gonna give us overall records?

Those numbers show all of their losses, and I don't care how many wins they have over the +100 RPI teams, so overall records are unnecessary.
Feb 27, 2011 3:55pm
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Feb 27, 2011 3:56 PM
Overall records are unnecessary...gotcha

lmao
Feb 27, 2011 3:56pm
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Tiger2003

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Feb 27, 2011 4:00 PM
SportsAndLady;693636 wrote:Overall records are unnecessary...gotcha

lmao
+1
Feb 27, 2011 4:00pm
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Cleveland Buck

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Feb 27, 2011 4:14 PM
There you go. Overall records are included for those who value that kind of thing.
Feb 27, 2011 4:14pm
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karen lotz

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Feb 27, 2011 4:16 PM
You honestly think overall record isn't valued? Do you think the selection committee disregards it?
Feb 27, 2011 4:16pm
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Feb 27, 2011 4:19 PM
karen lotz;693685 wrote:You honestly think overall record isn't valued? Do you think the selection committee disregards it?

I'm sure some people value it. It doesn't tell me anything except that Team B who is 9-1 against bad teams would probably be 22-2 against them if they played Team D's schedule.
Feb 27, 2011 4:19pm
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Feb 27, 2011 4:20 PM
I'm not seeing the overall records still lol
Feb 27, 2011 4:20pm
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Feb 27, 2011 4:21 PM
SportsAndLady;693691 wrote:I'm not seeing the overall records still lol

Add the record vs. the top 100 to the record vs. bad teams. That is their total record.
Feb 27, 2011 4:21pm
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dtdtim

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Feb 27, 2011 4:25 PM
SportsAndLady;693691 wrote:I'm not seeing the overall records still lol
Cleveland Buck;693597 wrote: Team A:
Overall SOS: 131
Nonconference SOS: 284
Record vs. RPI Top 50: 2-2
Record vs. RPI Top 100: 3-5
Record. vs. Bad Teams: 16-4
Road Record vs. RPI Top 100: 1-4

Addition? I would assume this team is 19-9.
Feb 27, 2011 4:25pm
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Feb 27, 2011 4:41 PM
WTF just put their fucking overall records on there, it's not that hard and its what every blind resume' has included
Feb 27, 2011 4:41pm
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Feb 27, 2011 4:45 PM
dtdtim;693706 wrote:Addition? I would assume this team is 19-9.

Now just show S&L how simple that was.
Feb 27, 2011 4:45pm
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Feb 27, 2011 4:51 PM
Yeah the guy who ASSUMES 3-5 and 16-4 together is 19-9 needs to teach me addition...right
Feb 27, 2011 4:51pm
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Feb 27, 2011 5:11 PM
I wonder if CB happened to see that Gene Smith interview...
Feb 27, 2011 5:11pm
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Feb 27, 2011 5:13 PM
karen lotz;693799 wrote:I wonder if CB happened to see that Gene Smith interview...

I didn't, why?
Feb 27, 2011 5:13pm
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devil1197

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Feb 27, 2011 5:15 PM
Overall wins not important???

Just as Gene Smith, a major player in the selection committee this year, says he looks at overall win totals first.

SMH
Feb 27, 2011 5:15pm
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Feb 27, 2011 5:18 PM
He was asked what was his main criteria on teams getting in the tournament. His reply was overall wins. Just thought that was odd that the Committee Chair uses that as his biggest criteria.
Feb 27, 2011 5:18pm
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Feb 27, 2011 6:10 PM
I didn't see his comments, but that sounds pretty stupid. Why play anyone then? I read a couple of articles by guys who participated in that mock selection they did and they talked about how important SOS, especially non conference SOS, road/neutral performance, and the RPI rating of your wins are to the selection committee.
Feb 27, 2011 6:10pm
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Feb 27, 2011 6:42 PM
Those teams all suck. I vote that none of them get in.

But team F would be my first choice.
Feb 27, 2011 6:42pm
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Feb 27, 2011 8:28 PM
1.F
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3.E
4.C
5.H
6.I
7.A
8.D
9.G
Feb 27, 2011 8:28pm
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Feb 28, 2011 2:41 AM
Cleveland Buck;693918 wrote:I didn't see his comments, but that sounds pretty stupid. Why play anyone then? I read a couple of articles by guys who participated in that mock selection they did and they talked about how important SOS, especially non conference SOS, road/neutral performance, and the RPI rating of your wins are to the selection committee.

He said everyone on the committee has their own starting point and his is overall wins. He then looks at SOS, RPI etc. to further his evaluation.
Feb 28, 2011 2:41am
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Feb 28, 2011 7:41 PM
In the future, no one wants to look at that many teams at 1 time. I attempted and got bored and started to stare at the wall. 3 teams is about what you should compare at the most.
Feb 28, 2011 7:41pm
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dtdtim

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Mar 1, 2011 2:13 AM
SportsAndLady;693761 wrote:Yeah the guy who ASSUMES 3-5 and 16-4 together is 19-9 needs to teach me addition...right
??? I don't see the cleverness in this as both my addition and my use of the word 'assume' are both completely correct.

Since the overall record isn't specifically stated in the blind resume, any information about a team's overall record has to be an assumption. Pick up a dictionary. This type of logical action is called a supposition or correct assumption.

Is it possible for you to post on any thread without the end result of you coming off looking like a douche? I wasn't attacking you or mocking you in my post and, you have to admit, it seemed like you honestly didn't know the overall records.
Mar 1, 2011 2:13am