
OneBuckeye
Posts: 5,888
Feb 21, 2011 10:11am
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/hero_unwelcome_Zi3u1fwtRpo87vXAiAQfSN

Columbia University students heckled a war hero during a town-hall meeting on whether ROTC should be allowed back on campus.
"Racist!" some students yelled at Anthony Maschek, a Columbia freshman and former Army staff sergeant awarded the Purple Heart after being shot 11 times in a firefight in northern Iraq in February 2008. Others hissed and booed the veteran.
Maschek, 28, had bravely stepped up to the mike Tuesday at the meeting to issue an impassioned challenge to fellow students on their perceptions of the military.
"It doesn't matter how you feel about the war. It doesn't matter how you feel about fighting," said Maschek. "There are bad men out there plotting to kill you."
Several students laughed and jeered the Idaho native, a 10th Mountain Division infantryman who spent two years at Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington recovering from grievous wounds.
Maschek, who is studying economics, miraculously survived the insurgent attack in Kirkuk. In the hail of gunfire, he broke both legs and suffered wounds to his abdomen, arm and chest.
He enrolled last August at the Ivy League school, where an increasingly ugly battle is unfolding over the 42-year military ban there.
More than half of the students who spoke at the meeting -- the second of three hearings on the subject -- expressed opposition to ROTC's return. Many of the 200 students in the audience held anti-military placards with slogans such as, "1 in 3 female soldiers experiences sexual assault in the military."
The university has created a task force polling 10,000 students on the issue, but would not release the vote tally of the 1,300 who have already responded.
In 2005, when the university last voted to reject ROTC's return, it cited the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy.
That policy was overturned in December, but resistance remains.
"Transpeople are part of the Columbia community," said senior Sean Udell at the meeting, referring to the military's current ban on transgender soldiers.
Faculty members are divided.
"Universities should not be involved in military activities," Sociology Professor Emeritus Herbert Gans told The Post. "Columbia should come out against spending $300 billion a year on unnecessary wars."
A group of 34 faculty colleagues, including historian Kenneth Jackson and former Bloomberg adviser Esther Fuchs, plan to announce their support of ROTC tomorrow.
José Robledo, 30, a Columbia student who commutes to Fordham University for ROTC coursework, said he found the treatment of Maschek abhorrent.
"The anti-ROTC side has been disrespectful and loud. They hiss and they jeer," he said. "It's been to the detriment of the argument."
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ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Feb 21, 2011 10:19am
sickening

SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Feb 21, 2011 10:21am
A bunch of liberals in higher education acting like morons. Is anyone surprised?
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september63
Posts: 5,789
Feb 21, 2011 10:22am
This re-enforces the stereotype of Ivy league educated assholes. Rich, undeserving, spoiled white punks!
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Feb 21, 2011 10:24am
SQ_Crazies;685690 wrote:A bunch of liberals in higher education acting like morons. Is anyone surprised?
+1. We disagree a lot but I'm in complete agreeance here.

dwccrew
Posts: 7,817
Feb 21, 2011 10:28am
These fucking treehuggers don't understand shit that goes on in the real world, just what they are taught through textbooks and their liberal profs.

LJ
Posts: 16,351
Feb 21, 2011 10:29am
september63;685691 wrote:This re-enforces the stereotype of Ivy league educated assholes. Rich, undeserving, spoiled white punks!
Yeah!
damn white people!

CenterBHSFan
Posts: 6,115
Feb 21, 2011 10:33am
I just don't understand people like that. Can't even be respectful. I mean, I know they're young, but is that really a good excuse?

osudarby08
Posts: 734
Feb 21, 2011 10:33am
I thought Ivy League students were supposed to be intelligent? I guess that doesn't apply to rational thought.

CenterBHSFan
Posts: 6,115
Feb 21, 2011 10:36am
Book smarts have nothing to do with common sense or manners. There's the difference.osudarby08;685700 wrote:I thought Ivy League students were supposed to be intelligent? I guess that doesn't apply to rational thought.
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september63
Posts: 5,789
Feb 21, 2011 10:39am
They wont allow ROTC on campus, but on Sept 24 2007 they welcomed Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in for a speech.

gerb131
Posts: 9,932
Feb 21, 2011 10:43am
No matter how you feel about foreign policy you don't do that to someone who gave up so much so you can read out of a text book and sip caramel mochachinos.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Feb 21, 2011 11:05am
Pathetic

Fab4Runner
Posts: 6,196
Feb 21, 2011 11:11am
Unreal. It boggles my mind how someone can treat a veteran that fought for their freedom in such a manner. It should have nothing to do with your political leanings or your thoughts on the war. To disrespect a man that almost died for your country is sickening.

4cards
Posts: 2,551
Feb 21, 2011 11:13am
...I know violence doesn't solve anything, but I would have loved to been there and fucked up some of those liberal aholes that heckled this young man.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Feb 21, 2011 11:15am
As for the sign that the military preys on low income communities...............
Um.........There are quite a few poeple who join because it is pretty much a guarenteed job, and use this training and experience to springboard themselves into another career, or a career in the military.....but then again most join out of a sense of duty, honor and wanting to be part of something bigger and better than they could ever do on themselves.
I would think that small colleges "prey on poor communities" with the lower cost. THey going to protest there too? Or how about the prevelance of liquer stores in low income areas?
When it said this happened at Columbia my comment, sadly, was that it did not surprise me. Pure jackoffs.
Um.........There are quite a few poeple who join because it is pretty much a guarenteed job, and use this training and experience to springboard themselves into another career, or a career in the military.....but then again most join out of a sense of duty, honor and wanting to be part of something bigger and better than they could ever do on themselves.
I would think that small colleges "prey on poor communities" with the lower cost. THey going to protest there too? Or how about the prevelance of liquer stores in low income areas?
When it said this happened at Columbia my comment, sadly, was that it did not surprise me. Pure jackoffs.

Belly35
Posts: 9,716
Feb 21, 2011 11:28am
Fucking Obama supporter .... Libtards

justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Feb 21, 2011 11:33am
They are well within their rights to do this. They are also 100% jackasses.
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mella
Posts: 647
Feb 21, 2011 11:40am
I don't agree with the war in Iraq, but I am sure not going to heckle or protest the soldiers that are fighting it. I couldn't image what they are going through but they deserve hand shakes, hugs, pats on the back for serving America, not boos and jeers.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Feb 21, 2011 11:42am
justincredible;685754 wrote:They are well within their rights to do this. They are also 100% jackasses.
This.
martyirish
Posts: 490
Feb 21, 2011 11:48am
Liberalism is a mental disorder.-- Michael Savage
That is actually an insult to the truely mentally ill
That is actually an insult to the truely mentally ill

Tiger2003
Posts: 15,421
Feb 21, 2011 11:53am
Does not surprise me one bit. It's really sad. But this is reality.
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Zoltan
Posts: 1,003
Feb 21, 2011 1:00pm
gerb131;685705 wrote:No matter how you feel about foreign policy you don't do that to someone who gave up so much so you can read out of a text book and sip caramel mochachinos.
That is the problem, they think the war is a lie and those people are giving up so much for nothing. Idiots.

Thread Bomber
Posts: 1,851
Feb 21, 2011 1:16pm
The sad part is that me that he sacrificed for OUR country and also sacrificed for the idiots right to heckel and belittle them.
It is sad thing when we are born that we all don't come with a citizenship manual. (not that any of these assholes would read it.)
It is sad thing when we are born that we all don't come with a citizenship manual. (not that any of these assholes would read it.)
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cbus4life
Posts: 2,849
Feb 21, 2011 1:17pm
Disgusting.
But, to be fair, probably should be careful not to characterize an entire school based on the vocal outbursts of a handful of students.
But, to be fair, probably should be careful not to characterize an entire school based on the vocal outbursts of a handful of students.