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Cleveland Buck

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Feb 17, 2011 1:44 AM
When I've been bored at work and home I've been playing around with some numbers to represent the resumes for some of these teams, and it looks pretty interesting. I assigned points to the following:

RPI 1-25: +5 for a road win, +4 for a neutral win, +3 for a home win, 0 for a loss
RPI 26-50: +4 road win, +3 neutral win, +2 home win, 0 loss
RPI 51-75: +3 road win, +2 neutral win, +1 home win, 0 loss
RPI 76-100: +2 road win, +1 neutral win, 0 home win, 0 road/neutral loss, -1 home loss
RPI 101-200: +1 road win, 0 neutral/home win, -1 road loss, -2 neutral loss, -3 home loss
RPI 201+: 0 win, -2 road loss, -3 neutral loss, -4 home loss

Here are some of the teams who are in contention for #1 seeds:

Georgetown 37
Ohio State 34
Pittsburgh 33
Kansas 31
Texas 30
Duke 27

Here are some teams in the general vicinity of the bubble, some who most people have in and some that aren't being considered.

Cincinnati 16
Illinois 15
Memphis 15
Michigan State 13
Michigan 13
Minnesota 11
Georgia 9
Richmond 8
Virginia Tech 7
Boston College 6
Baylor 5
Alabama 4
Northwestern 4
Penn State 2
Utah State 2
Feb 17, 2011 1:44am
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wildcats20

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Feb 17, 2011 1:54 AM
Georgetown just lost again tonight. I would say they have NO shot to get a 1.
Feb 17, 2011 1:54am
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Mulva

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Feb 17, 2011 10:35 AM
Not sure about the scale you chose. Very, very lenient. 0 for a loss against the RPI 51-75? Those aren't even tournament teams in most cases. If you're a tournament team you should be winning those games, especially at home.

Illinois is the only one of those bubble teams that I would say is tournament worthy right now anyway though (even though I know at least a few of them would be getting in).
Feb 17, 2011 10:35am
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Feb 17, 2011 10:46 AM
Not enough "punishment" for losing on this scale. A team with 6 losses before the Conference Tournaments is not in contention for a #1 seed.
Feb 17, 2011 10:46am
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Feb 17, 2011 11:13 AM
Just a terrible scale...you gotta have some type of punishment for losing
Feb 17, 2011 11:13am
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Cleveland Buck

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Feb 18, 2011 2:34 AM
I adjusted it to punish losses more. I used the following:

RPI 1-25: +5 for a road win, +4 for a neutral win, +3 for a home win, 0 for road/neutral loss, -1 for home loss
RPI 26-50: +4 road win, +3 neutral win, +2 home win, 0 road/neutral loss, -1 home loss
RPI 51-75: +3 road win, +2 neutral win, +1 home win, 0 road loss, -1 neutral loss, -2 home loss
RPI 76-100: +2 road win, +1 neutral win, 0 home win, -1 road loss, -2 neutral loss, -3 home loss
RPI 101-200: +1 road win, 0 neutral/home win, -2 road loss, -3 neutral loss, -4 home loss
RPI 201+: 0 win, -3 road loss, -4 neutral loss, -5 home loss

If you take out the conference leaders who would get the auto bids, here is a list of the top resumes. The top 37 would be in the NCAA tournament if this is how the field was selected.

1 Georgetown 34
2 Kansas 31
3 Brigham Young 31
4 Notre Dame 30
5 Connecticut 28
6 Purdue 23
7 Wisconsin 21
8 Syracuse 20
9 West Virginia 18
10 St. John's 17
11 North Carolina 17
12 Kentucky 17
13 Louisville 16
14 Villanova 15
15 Vanderbilt 14
16 Cincinnati 13
17 Old Dominion 11
18 Temple 11
19 Illinois 10
20 Texas A&M 10
21 Missouri 10
22 Marquette 9
23 Southern Mississippi 9
24 Tennessee 8
25 Michigan State 8
26 UNLV 8
27 Minnesota 8
28 Georgia 8
29 Kansas State 6
30 Alabama - Birmingham 6
31 Michigan 5
32 Florida State 5
33 Utah State 5

Last 4 In:
34 Harvard 5
35 UCLA 4
36 Washington 4
37 Virginia Tech 4

First 4 Out:
38 Colorado State 3
39 Gonzaga 3
40 Oklahoma State 3
41 Richmond 3

42 Colorado 2
43 Dayton 2
44 Maryland 2
45 New Mexico 2
46 Boston College 1
47 Butler 1
48 California 1
49 Duquesne 1
50 Marshall 1
51 North Carolina State 1
52 Virginia Commonwealth 1
53 Clemson 0
54 Northwestern 0
55 Mississippi 0
56 Washington State 0
Feb 18, 2011 2:34am
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sportswizuhrd

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Feb 18, 2011 4:08 AM
CBuck...Do you have Pitt-Tennessee game as a neutral game? After reading about the Mock Selection process(I made a thread about it), they said that this was a neutral matchup because it was not played on campus and ESPN managed it. I wasn't aware of where the game was(didn't matter to me either way) and never knew that if ESPN manages a game it becomes neutral. Also, Arizona played Kansas in Phoenix.Shouldn't be a home game for U of A right? It was because Arizona chose to have it there.
Feb 18, 2011 4:08am
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Cleveland Buck

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Feb 18, 2011 8:35 AM
CBSSports has has a breakdown for each team that is separated by RPI and home, away, and neutral, and that's what I used. I don't know what they considered the Pitt/Tennessee or the Arizona/Kansas games.
Feb 18, 2011 8:35am
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Feb 18, 2011 9:27 AM
Arizona/Kansas was played in Vegas, wizuhrd...I would know, I was there :D
Feb 18, 2011 9:27am
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sportswizuhrd

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Feb 18, 2011 10:51 AM
SportsAndLady;682741 wrote:Arizona/Kansas was played in Vegas, wizuhrd...I would know, I was there :D
Apparently I missed the word, hypothetically when I read that tweet. I remember you saying you were going there for it. Isn't that the same tourny/classic that Kansas destroyed(might be understating it) OU?
Feb 18, 2011 10:51am
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Feb 18, 2011 12:55 PM
sportswizuhrd;682852 wrote:Apparently I missed the word, hypothetically when I read that tweet. I remember you saying you were going there for it. Isn't that the same tourny/classic that Kansas destroyed(might be understating it) OU?

Yeah, they lost by like 50 or something...dear god that was a beatdown. It was sweet though
Feb 18, 2011 12:55pm