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Laley23

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Jun 26, 2011 1:29 AM
Best pitcher in the AL so far?

James Shields, Jered Weaver or Justin Verlander?

Close, Josh Beckett
Jun 26, 2011 1:29am
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birddog23

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Jun 26, 2011 9:48 AM
Laley23;814087 wrote:Best pitcher in the AL so far?

James Shields, Jered Weaver or Justin Verlander?

Close, Josh Beckett
Verlander

Halladay


Weaver
Shields


everyone else.


Verlander is virtually untouchable at this point.
Jun 26, 2011 9:48am
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Jun 26, 2011 11:01 AM
birddog23;814134 wrote:Verlander

Halladay


Weaver
Shields


everyone else.


Verlander is virtually untouchable at this point.

Halladay?
Jun 26, 2011 11:01am
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birddog23

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Jun 26, 2011 11:04 AM
Tiger2003;814171 wrote:Halladay?

Yeah. Ever heard of the guy?
Jun 26, 2011 11:04am
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SportsAndLady

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Jun 26, 2011 11:05 AM
lol
Jun 26, 2011 11:05am
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karen lotz

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Jun 26, 2011 11:14 AM
I assume Tiger said that because Halladay hasn't pitched in the AL for a couple of years now.
Jun 26, 2011 11:14am
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birddog23

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Jun 26, 2011 11:18 AM
Wow, just re-read Laley's post and saw the "AL". My bad tiger.
Jun 26, 2011 11:18am
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Laley23

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Jun 26, 2011 11:41 AM
Verlander is untouchable. But Shields has 3 CG 1 SHO in his last 3 starts. Its very close. Verlander has been dominant for 5 starts, and Shields for 3...but those 3 maybe more than Verlander. Here are Shields last 3 for those who dont know.

9 innings, no runs versus the Red Sox (who have like 200 runs in June)
Followed by:
9 innings, no ER versus the Marlins
Followed by:
9 innings, 1 ER versus the Astros
Jun 26, 2011 11:41am
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birddog23

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Jun 26, 2011 11:46 AM
Yeah but those 3 teams all are in the bottom half in the MLB in runs scored and hitting. Plus, I have a lot more faith in Verlander. Shields is very inconsistent.
Jun 26, 2011 11:46am
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Jun 26, 2011 11:55 AM
birddog23;814197 wrote:Yeah but those 3 teams all are in the bottom half in the MLB in runs scored and hitting. Plus, I have a lot more faith in Verlander. Shields is very inconsistent.

Sorry, I meant Red Sox not White.
Jun 26, 2011 11:55am
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Jun 26, 2011 12:07 PM
birddog23;814175 wrote:Yeah. Ever heard of the guy?

Nope never heard of him.
Jun 26, 2011 12:07pm
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Laley23

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Jun 26, 2011 12:11 PM
I just dont know if I can concede that either. Im not saying JV isnt better, but it is MUCH closer than anyone in the country is giving credence two.

JV has given up 3 ER or less in 16/17 starts, Shields in 14/16 starts. Here are the numbers in a breakdown:
Verlander--------Shields
3-----------------------2
3-----------------------5
2-----------------------2
3-----------------------1
3-----------------------0
3-----------------------1
0-----------------------1
1-----------------------2
3-----------------------3
6-----------------------0
0-----------------------3
2-----------------------7
1-----------------------3
0-----------------------0
1-----------------------0
0-----------------------1

Shields has been inconsistent almost his whole career. But it isnt fair to label him that way this season. He has been remarkable.
Jun 26, 2011 12:11pm
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Jun 26, 2011 5:52 PM
Bucs lead the Texans 14-10. Bottom of the 9th at Reliant Stadium
Jun 26, 2011 5:52pm
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Ironman92

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Jun 26, 2011 10:46 PM
Bobby Valentine just said Willie Mays got to first bast in 3.4

I don't believe him.
Jun 26, 2011 10:46pm
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Jun 26, 2011 10:57 PM
Bobby Valentine just said Willie Mays got to first bast in 3.4

I don't believe him.
I don't believe a lot of things that he says
Jun 26, 2011 10:57pm
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birddog23

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Jun 26, 2011 11:02 PM
Ironman92;814760 wrote:Bobby Valentine just said Willie Mays got to first bast in 3.4

I don't believe him.
I can believe it. It's 30 yards. I can easily see Mays running like 4.2 - 4.4 forty yard dash.
Jun 26, 2011 11:02pm
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Jun 26, 2011 11:03 PM
birddog23;814784 wrote:I can believe it. It's 30 yards. I can easily see Mays running like 4.2 - 4.4 forty yard dash.

We are talking about after a swing. So his momentum is not taking him directly to first.More towards SS/3rd.
Jun 26, 2011 11:03pm
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Jun 26, 2011 11:07 PM
Drew Stubbs is 3.7 from the right side....would love to see the fastest NFL combine guys swing a bat and get clocked from contact and then do it on dirt opposed to fast field turf...and time the final stride to hit the base in the best place.
Jun 26, 2011 11:07pm
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Jun 27, 2011 3:36 AM
Anybody see Troy Tulowtizki hit the ball twice in one swing? Never seen that before, ever.

http://mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=16259051
Jun 27, 2011 3:36am
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Jun 27, 2011 12:21 PM
hoops23;814895 wrote:Anybody see Troy Tulowtizki hit the ball twice in one swing? Never seen that before, ever.

http://mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=16259051

Ya I saw that. Was pretty impressed he got a single out of it.
Jun 27, 2011 12:21pm
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Jun 27, 2011 10:07 PM
Dodgers have 17 hits thru 6 innings
Jun 27, 2011 10:07pm
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karen lotz

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Jun 27, 2011 10:08 PM
Braves don't have any hits yet. :(
Jun 27, 2011 10:08pm
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karen lotz

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Jun 27, 2011 10:10 PM
hoops23;814895 wrote:Anybody see Troy Tulowtizki hit the ball twice in one swing? Never seen that before, ever.

http://mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=16259051


WTF? Someone told me about that yesterday but I forgot to look it up. Doesn't seem possible at all.
Jun 27, 2011 10:10pm
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Jun 27, 2011 10:11 PM
Yeah....but fortunately they are still shutting out the Mariners.
Jun 27, 2011 10:11pm