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Feb 13, 2011 9:20 PM
LOL - this thread has fallen victim to a serious hijacking!
Feb 13, 2011 9:20pm
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Feb 13, 2011 9:23 PM
Seth Davis' AP Ballot...

Texas
OSU
Kansas
Pitt
Dook
ND
Nova
BYU
San Diego St.
Georgetown
Wisky
Florida
Purdue
Lousiville
Vandy
UConn
Arizona
Mizzou
Cuse
Carolina
Kentucky
St. Mary's
Utah
Texas A&M
St. John's
Feb 13, 2011 9:23pm
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Feb 13, 2011 9:46 PM
Seth Davis wrote:Seth Davis' AP Ballot...

Texas
OSU
Kansas
Looks like Seth Davis and I share similar tastes. He is, after all, a Dukie. :)
Feb 13, 2011 9:46pm
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Feb 13, 2011 11:49 PM
reclegend22;676887 wrote:Nope. I have Texas jumping Kansas (due to the reasons I listed above, and the fact that Texas won AT Kansas)

With that logic, why don't you have Pitt #1? They beat Texas and have 1 fewer loss than Texas.
Feb 13, 2011 11:49pm
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Feb 14, 2011 12:33 AM
Sport&Lady wrote:With that logic, why don't you have Pitt #1? They beat Texas and have 1 fewer loss than Texas.
I don't know, telegraph Seth Davis.

But that doesn't change my opinion. The Texas win at Kansas is an additional reason for Texas moving to No. 1, not the sole reason, as per my original post in discussion. I said I had reasons, and those reasons consist of Texas winning 10 in a row (all against Big XII opponents), with an average winning margin of 17 points per game. No team is playing better, IMO.

Besides, Pitt has lost twice since beating Texas on November 19 of last year. The Longhorns are a completely different team now and playing at a much higher level. So that's not relevant.
Feb 14, 2011 12:33am
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Feb 14, 2011 12:45 AM
reclegend22;677619 wrote:Besides, Pitt has lost twice since beating Texas on November 19 of last year. The Longhorns are a completely different team now and playing at a much higher level. So that's not relevant.

This isn't a power ranking, you can't just vote based on how good they are right now. It's a poll to determine who is the best over the entire course of the season. You simply cannot ignore the fact UT lost by double digits to USC, a bad team. Yes, they are a changed team but that doesn't mean the beginning to the season should be overlooked.
Feb 14, 2011 12:45am
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Feb 14, 2011 12:48 AM
SportsAndLady;677623 wrote:This isn't a power ranking, you can't just vote based on how good they are right now. It's a poll to determine who is the best over the entire course of the season. You simply cannot ignore the fact UT lost by double digits to USC, a bad team. Yes, they are a changed team but that doesn't mean the beginning to the season should be overlooked.

Then OSU should be #1 and your point is moot. Jesus
Feb 14, 2011 12:48am
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Feb 14, 2011 12:48 AM
ytownfootball;677624 wrote:Then OSU should be #1 and your point is moot. Jesus

How? How is OSU's resume' better than Kansas'? They have literally the exact same resume's.
Feb 14, 2011 12:48am
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Feb 14, 2011 12:52 AM
KU is #1 in RPI, OSU is #3.
KU is #12 in SOS, OSU is #31.

They each have one loss, in conference, to a top 15 team.
Feb 14, 2011 12:52am
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Feb 14, 2011 12:54 AM
SportsAndLady;677626 wrote:How? How is OSU's resume' better than Kansas'? They have literally the exact same resume's.

Sorry if I hurt your feelings...Kansas is #1, should have been all season...here's an idea....START A FUCKING THREAD
Feb 14, 2011 12:54am
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Feb 14, 2011 12:56 AM
This isn't a power ranking, you can't just vote based on how good they are right now. It's a poll to determine who is the best over the entire course of the season. You simply cannot ignore the fact UT lost by double digits to USC, a bad team. Yes, they are a changed team but that doesn't mean the beginning to the season should be overlooked.
I didn't overlook the Longhorns' slow November and December start, which you should have deduced when I said, "Texas is playing at a much higher level."

I'm not voting simply on "how good they are right now." I'm voting on how good the Longhorns have been over the last 69 days since losing to USC. And those 69, almost 70 (like Phog's streak) days since that December 6 loss to USC show me 16 of 17 wins for UT and 10 straight. They are MY most impressive team in the country right now. I'm not really sure what else you want me to add, to be honest.
Feb 14, 2011 12:56am
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Feb 14, 2011 12:59 AM
ytownfootball;677628 wrote:Sorry if I hurt your feelings...Kansas is #1, should have been all season...here's an idea....START A FUCKING THREAD

Dude seriously? We're arguing about sports...it's a fucking message board. Sorry that it's going to ruin your day that a thread about OSU-MSU has a separate debate going on inside of it.
Feb 14, 2011 12:59am
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Feb 14, 2011 1:00 AM
reclegend22;677629 wrote:I didn't overlook the Longhorns' slow November and December start, which you should have deduced when I said, "Texas is playing at a much higher level."

I'm not voting simply on "how good they are right now." I'm voting on how good the Longhorns have been over the last 69 days since losing to USC. And those 69, almost 70 (like Phog's streak) days since that December 6 loss to USC show me 16 of 17 wins for UT and 10 straight. They are MY most impressive team in the country right now. I'm not really sure what else you want me to add, to be honest.

Hey I'm just bored and want to spice this college bball forum up a little bit. A little debate here and there is what this place needs.

You're not wrong in thinking UT is #1, I just happen to disagree and am arguing you on it. I dont want you to add anything else lol
Feb 14, 2011 1:00am
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Feb 14, 2011 1:04 AM
Basically, what all of our arguments on this thread are proving is that Ohio State, Texas and Kansas are at this point virtual coin flips for the No. 1 spot in the country.

In other words, your team is very good. Haha.

But, yeah, it is nice to have good debate here. I agree.
Feb 14, 2011 1:04am
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Feb 14, 2011 1:09 AM
SportsAndLady;677631 wrote:Hey I'm just bored and want to spice this college bball forum up a little bit. A little debate here and there is what this place needs.

You wanna drone on and on about something that literally has near zero relevance, be my guest. The fact of the matter is, that if it didn't involve Kansas, you wouldn't be shitting at the mouth about it. You're becoming a little fucking pest, and you're annoying the natives. Lol
Feb 14, 2011 1:09am
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Feb 14, 2011 1:25 AM
ytownfootball;677634 wrote:You wanna drone on and on about something that literally has near zero relevance, be my guest. The fact of the matter is, that if it didn't involve Kansas, you wouldn't be shitting at the mouth about it. You're becoming a little fucking pest, and you're annoying the natives. Lol

I've already had many discussions about topics that do not involve Kansas. Yes, this topic happens to involve Kansas, pure coincidence. All I'm doing is talking college basketball on a college basketball forum...if that means I'm annoying the natives, the natives need to acquire thicker skin.
Feb 14, 2011 1:25am
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Feb 14, 2011 3:00 AM
Difference is KU lost at home. Osu lost on road. Edge osu.
Feb 14, 2011 3:00am
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Feb 14, 2011 3:17 AM
SportsAndLady;677637 wrote:I've already had many discussions about topics that do not involve Kansas. Yes, this topic happens to involve Kansas, pure coincidence. All I'm doing is talking college basketball on a college basketball forum...if that means I'm annoying the natives, the natives need to acquire thicker skin.

Point is dude, you're like a fat bitch with a big hat that sits in front of me in an otherwise empty theater, gtfo
Feb 14, 2011 3:17am
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Feb 14, 2011 7:53 AM
SportsAndLady;677056 wrote:We were talking about whether UT could beat KU in Lawrence..you said we'll have to wait til KC to find out....well no, we won't.

No WE weren't... where did I say anything about Texas beating Kansas in Lawrence? I know it's tough, but try and keep up.
Feb 14, 2011 7:53am
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Feb 14, 2011 10:15 AM
SportsAndLady;677627 wrote:KU is #1 in RPI, OSU is #3.
KU is #12 in SOS, OSU is #31.

They each have one loss, in conference, to a top 15 team.

Kansas lost at home...OSU lost on the road in arguably the toughest place to win in the country. Other than that, I don't disagree. Flip a coin.
Feb 14, 2011 10:15am
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Feb 14, 2011 10:36 AM
SportsAndLady;677175 wrote:LOL

a) when has a team ever had one of their player's mom die the night before a game?

b) If KU would have won, they would have overcome huge adversity..that's a fact. How would that be twisting?

c) The motivation lasted for a while, as KU got off to a 16-2 start to the game. Then the adrenaline wore off due to getting an hour of sleep and staying up all night crying with a teammate who they consider family.
Here is a NEWS FLASH for you and your 4th grade "LOL"...although this was a very tragic situation, there have been WORSE. One that comes right to mind, is a guy named Hank Gathers, who happened to die right on the court from heart failure. His team played on and made a run to the elite 8, 12 days after his death! So yes, overcoming adversity, does happen quite often.
Feb 14, 2011 10:36am
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Feb 14, 2011 11:34 AM
Midstate01;677650 wrote:Difference is KU lost at home. Osu lost on road. Edge osu.
centralbucksfan;677795 wrote:Kansas lost at home...OSU lost on the road in arguably the toughest place to win in the country. Other than that, I don't disagree. Flip a coin.
I happen to agree, the OSU loss was a "better" loss.

But you cant ignore than Kansas loss is to another #1 seed, and OSUs is to a likely 4 or 5 seed.
Feb 14, 2011 11:34am
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Feb 14, 2011 11:40 AM
Difference is KU lost at home. Osu lost on road. Edge osu.
Kansas lost at home...OSU lost on the road in arguably the toughest place to win in the country. Other than that, I don't disagree. Flip a coin.
I happen to agree, the OSU loss was a "better" loss.

But you cant ignore than Kansas loss is to another #1 seed, and OSUs is to a likely 4 or 5 seed.
I doubt Wisky is a 4 or 5. They'll be a 3
Feb 14, 2011 11:40am
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Feb 14, 2011 11:43 AM
ytownfootball;677651 wrote:Point is dude, you're like a fat bitch with a big hat that sits in front of me in an otherwise empty theater, gtfo

I literally have no idea what you are talking about..
Feb 14, 2011 11:43am
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Feb 14, 2011 11:45 AM
vball10set;677674 wrote:No WE weren't... where did I say anything about Texas beating Kansas in Lawrence? I know it's tough, but try and keep up.
SportsAndLady;677014 wrote:It's a reach to say KU would have extended their 69 game home win streak to 70 games if their players were not up all night crying the night before?
vball10set;677026 wrote:and I don't think it's ridiculous at all to think that Texas could've/would've beaten Kansas whether she died or not

Yes, we were talking about whether they could win in Lawrence, try to keep up.
Feb 14, 2011 11:45am