Heretic;665007 wrote:Crap, I'm in my 30s and it seems like every summer has been a summer of facepalm. I was too young to remember '79, they were poor during the mid-80s when I started following them, had three straight good seasons that unfortunately ended in the NLCS and then the current streak of futility. Even the high moments have lows attached (many involving the unholy name of Stan Belinda).
The primary depressing thing is that, unlike in the NBA, the Pirates can't be "saved" by acquiring one great guy. The Cavs were putrid, drafted LeBron and IMMEDIATELY became mediocre and then quickly improved to become very good. When only five guys are seeing action at any time, getting that one difference-maker can immediately have a huge effect on wins and losses. The Pirates add one great guy, it'll help, but won't make up for all the inadequate guys.
At least I can say that no matter how horrible the Pirates are, bad baseball teams don't reach the same depths of futility that bad NBA teams reach. Last year, Pittsburgh lost 105, but still won 35 percent of their games. The Cavs currently are at 16 percent as far as wins go (with six other teams also below that 35 percent number). So at least, no matter how horrible the Pirates get, they won't be as bad as this Cavalier team.
Cavs were bad before Lebron but at least they had some history of going to the playoffs and finishing with a winning record.
Last time they went to the playoffs before Bron was in 98. First time with Bron was in 06. Thats still a long way off from the Pirates current streak
Cavs started playing in the NBA in 1970 as an expansion team. They've been to the playoffs in
76, 77, 78, 85, 88, 89, 90, 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 98, 06, 07, 08, 09.
The Cavs organization has never been as bad as the Pirates have been over the past two decades