Remember when ObamaCare was being debated and one of the major talking points of Obama and the Democrats was that millions of Americans have pre-existing conditions and can't get insurance?

The new health insurance law created a program with the HHS so that they could sell insurance to these poor wandering souls who are on the streets without insurance because of their existing medical conditions. The HHS said that it expected 375,000 people to sign up for insurance in 2010. This program runs until 2014 at a total cost of $5 Billion, yes BILLION dollars when the rest of the bill kicks in.

Only 8,011 people have signed up for insurance with this program. A success rate of 2.13%. A $5 Billion program designed to help millions of Americans who couldn't get insurance, which is what Obama and the Democrats cried from the rooftops before signing the law, has helped less than 10K people.

So, let's see. $5B over 4 years, so that's $1.25B for 2010. That works out to over $156,000 a person. Wow, that looks like a good use of our tax money. I'm sure glad ObamaCare was passed so that all these millions of American with pre-existing conditions who were denied coverage and dying in the streets could get help. Did I mention that this program runs at a loss of money?

:rolleyes:

http://hotair.com/archives/2010/11/12/hhs-falls-short-of-pre-existing-coverage-prediction-by-97-8/

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703805004575606891744060162.html

255 million: The number of Americans with existing health insurance coverage.
20 million: The number of Americans without any health coverage at all due to economic circumstances.
375,000: The number of Americans with pre-existing conditions HHS said would apply for coverage in the first year of ObamaCare, one of the main political arguments for its implementation.
8,011: The number that actually did.

As I understood it, most of the law wasn't coming into effect until 2014, so to me the numbers are incomplete.

I think everybody can rightly agree that this bill = huge amounts of political fluff that is detrimentally expensive

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110121/ap_on_re_us/us_health_care_nullification

tk421;646485 wrote:Only 8,011 people have signed up for insurance with this program. A success rate of 2.13%. A $5 Billion program designed to help millions of Americans who couldn't get insurance, which is what Obama and the Democrats cried from the rooftops before signing the law, has helped less than 10K people.
So, let's see. $5B over 4 years, so that's $1.25B for 2010. That works out to over $156,000 a person. Wow, that looks like a good use of our tax money. I'm sure glad ObamaCare was passed so that all these millions of American with pre-existing conditions who were denied coverage and dying in the streets could get help. Did I mention that this program runs at a loss of money?

:rolleyes:

http://hotair.com/archives/2010/11/12/hhs-falls-short-of-pre-existing-coverage-prediction-by-97-8/

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703805004575606891744060162.html

Blame that on inflammatory, vitriolic partisan rhetoric. Too many people are too busy planning violence to have time to sign up for Obamacare.

QuakerOats;646701 wrote:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110121/ap_on_re_us/us_health_care_nullification

These guys had a good point:

"What do we do when we don't get proper relief in the court?" Woods told The Associated Press from his home in Auburn, Ala. "We can't just throw up our hands and say, 'We tried.' The creators had to have some way of not having that system destroyed."

For Idaho's Pearce, Obama and the Democratic-led Congress are destroying the American system.

"There are now 27 states that are in on the lawsuit against Obamacare," Pearce said. "What if those 27 states do the same thing we do with nullification? It's a killer."

Hopefully more states can keep the momentum going.

If I print money to give to a beggar on the street corner, I go to jail. When a politician does it, they get votes.

tk421;646485 wrote:Remember when ObamaCare was being debated and one of the major talking points of Obama and the Democrats was that millions of Americans have pre-existing conditions and can't get insurance?

The new health insurance law created a program with the HHS so that they could sell insurance to these poor wandering souls who are on the streets without insurance because of their existing medical conditions. The HHS said that it expected 375,000 people to sign up for insurance in 2010. This program runs until 2014 at a total cost of $5 Billion, yes BILLION dollars when the rest of the bill kicks in.

Only 8,011 people have signed up for insurance with this program. A success rate of 2.13%. A $5 Billion program designed to help millions of Americans who couldn't get insurance, which is what Obama and the Democrats cried from the rooftops before signing the law, has helped less than 10K people.

So, let's see. $5B over 4 years, so that's $1.25B for 2010. That works out to over $156,000 a person. Wow, that looks like a good use of our tax money. I'm sure glad ObamaCare was passed so that all these millions of American with pre-existing conditions who were denied coverage and dying in the streets could get help. Did I mention that this program runs at a loss of money?

:rolleyes:

http://hotair.com/archives/2010/11/12/hhs-falls-short-of-pre-existing-coverage-prediction-by-97-8/

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703805004575606891744060162.html

You could not be more wrong. How about stepping up to the plate with some ideas to make it better instead of just being a troll.

Bigdogg;648996 wrote:You could not be more wrong. How about stepping up to the plate with some ideas to make it better instead of just being a troll.

Commenting on public policy is not trolling. Get a new dictionary.

While he is certainly allowed to make suggestions for public policy changes (and encouraged to do so by our system) it's not his job to make the needed changes. That charge belongs to the folks we just put in office. Hopefully, they'll do their jobs -- or they'll find themselves out on the street just like the people they replaced.

ObamaKare is a boondoggle...period. The clowns who ramrodded this crap through Congress are now unemployed or demoted (right Nancy?). And if the Senate ignores the House's repeal efforts (and it's likely the Senate will), you can be sure there will be a lot of unemployed senators in a couple of years as well.

We are just seeing the beginnings of the ramifications. Let me give you one example. Thanks to ObamaKare my 21 year old married daughter is now covered once again under my insurance plan. I just got a bill from the local hospital where my daughter visited the ER recently. So am I now legally responsible for the out-of-pocket expense just because ObamaKare directed my insurance company to cover my daughter until she's 26 or are my daughter and her husband the legally responsible parties? If I refuse to pay will the hospital turn me over to a collection agency? If so is that legal or does it violate fair collection laws since my daughter is an adult?

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/seiu-locals-including-chicago-chapter-wa



Change we can believe in .............

QuakerOats;650340 wrote:http://cnsnews.com/news/article/seiu-locals-including-chicago-chapter-wa



Change we can believe in .............

So much for 'Transparency'........

If ObamaKare is so good...why do these unions need / want a waiver?????

Hmmmmmmmmmmm.

Writerbuckeye;649152 wrote:Commenting on public policy is not trolling. Get a new dictionary.

While he is certainly allowed to make suggestions for public policy changes (and encouraged to do so by our system) it's not his job to make the needed changes. That charge belongs to the folks we just put in office. Hopefully, they'll do their jobs -- or they'll find themselves out on the street just like the people they replaced.

Exactly.

http://cnsnews.com/cnsnewstv/v/65946

Thank God they left her out in front of the socialist/dem party.

QuakerOats;650886 wrote:http://cnsnews.com/cnsnewstv/v/65946

Thank God they left her out in front of the socialist/dem party.

omglolwtf?

QuakerOats;650886 wrote:http://cnsnews.com/cnsnewstv/v/65946

Thank God they left her out in front of the socialist/dem party.

Quit your jobs....the taxpayers will cover your Health Care?????

Really??????

WTF??????

wkfan;652018 wrote:Quit your jobs....the taxpayers will cover your Health Care?????

Really??????

WTF??????

She's just explaining the Gospel of Utopia that liberals have been preaching for decades now.

jhay78;652154 wrote:She's just explaining the Gospel of Utopia that liberals have been preaching for decades now.

Or you could just be a career politician making promises you never can keep, either way it's a good.

Bigdogg;652536 wrote:Or you could just be a career politician making promises you never can keep, either way it's a good.

Utopia is the ultimate promise politicians make that can never be kept, and it is the intellectual bedrock upon which liberalism is founded. Nancy Pelosi just carried it to its logical conclusion with regards to the healthcare debate.

ha ha, Medicare's chief actuary testified before a committee and outed Obama on the health care law.

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[INDENT]McCLINTOCK: True or false: The two principal promises that were made in support of Obamacare were one, that it would hold costs down. True or false?

FOSTER: I would say false, more so than true.

McCLINTOCK: The other promise… was the promise that if you like your plan, you can keep it. True or false?

FOSTER: Not true in all cases.
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