Looks like the 'King' was able to save 2000 American Greetings jobs in the Cleveland area.

http://www.wtam.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=122520&article=8260420


...don't you just hate it when that happens bigdogg?

I Wear Pants;702333 wrote:Walked around a bit at night. Was not reminiscent of anything I'd consider a ghetto.

It was cold and shitty. It was said "on summer and nice nights" (paraphrasing) multiple times

HitsRus;702912 wrote:Looks like the 'King' was able to save 2000 American Greetings jobs in the Cleveland area.

http://www.wtam.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=122520&article=8260420


...don't you just hate it when that happens bigdogg?

Yes always happy to see companies stay in Ohio but....

Ohio will provide a package of grants, loans and tax rebates worth a potential $93.5 million over 15 years to keep American Greetings here.

Sounds like a lot for 2000 employees, don't you think?

The company said in November that it had narrowed the possibilities to the five Cleveland-area cities and two sites in Illinois. Former Gov. Ted Strickland and Ohio Department of Development officials began talking to American Greetings executives last year about loans, grants and tax credits, and the package was finalized after Kasich took office.

Glad you are giving Kasick so much credit for not F***ing up Stricklands deal.

Advocates of a regional approach to economic development were thrilled that American Greetings will stay in the area. But they said competitive courting of the company could hurt the region's economy. "We are pitted against ourselves," said Hudson Mayor William Currin, who is active with the Regional Prosperity Initiative, a 4-year-old group dedicated to regional land-use planning, revenue sharing and cooperation among cities. The group says current practices create an unhealthy competition among municipalities and communities for job growth and economic development.

So corporate welfare is just fine with you then?

http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2011/03/american_greetings_to_stay_in.html

Bigdogg;703147 wrote:

Ohio will provide a package of grants, loans and tax rebates worth a potential $93.5 million over 15 years to keep American Greetings here.

Sounds like a lot for 2000 employees, don't you think?

Seeing as how Bam set the bar for "saving us from a Great Depression" at between $250-500K per job, I'd say Johnny K is at least moving said bar in the right direction.

Yep, $46750 per job. Probably more than most of their employees earn in a year. Obviously well-spent, wouldn't you say?

stlouiedipalma;704088 wrote:Yep, $46750 per job. Probably more than most of their employees earn in a year. Obviously well-spent, wouldn't you say?

Guaranteed for 15 years. Three grand per employee per year. Far cheaper than the cost of not doing it.

Well, hot damn. All you need to do is redirect a large percentage of that money you give to schools and you can keep every business in the state from leaving.

stlouiedipalma;704144 wrote:Well, hot damn. All you need to do is redirect a large percentage of that money you give to schools and you can keep every business in the state from leaving.

You're getting warm

stlouiedipalma;704144 wrote:Well, hot damn. All you need to do is redirect a large percentage of that money you give to schools and you can keep every business in the state from leaving.

Sure, but first, someone has got to figure out a way to fund school, that is, you know, legal.

Despite immersed in all the trappings of incumbency, Kasich didn’t look, act, or sound like a Governor. He talked in exacerbated tones—how the past seven weeks of his fledging Administration felt, to him, like seven years. His rambling, disorganized speech made him appeared to be a man overwhelmed by the challenges of his office. He spent most of the speech detailing the problems in Ohio, as if nobody else in the State had realized there were any. Seriously, it doesn’t read any better in the official transcript, either.

Pretty much sums up the State of the State speech today.

Not only did Kasich continue his trend in the campaign of not offering any specifics, you almost have to wonder how he’ll dodge the budget deadline at this point.

Kasich speech created a rather unfortunate logical syllogism:

1. Ohio can’t balance its budget on reform and consolidation alone;
2. Ohio can’t cut its way to prosperity;
3. Therefore, Kasich’s budget is not likely to lead us to prosperity.

Kasich still thinks he is a Fox news commentator. The worst Governor in the history of the United States. We need to seriously recall this idiot before it's too late.

http://www.plunderbund.com/2011/03/08/kasichs-state-of-his-mind-speech/#more-17590

Bigdogg;704407 wrote:The worst Governor in the history of the United States.

Bigdogg;704407 wrote:The worst Governor in the history of the United States.

Now wait. When President Obama entered office and enacted his first few business items, many presumptuous Right-wingers referred to him as "the worst president in US history." The rebuttal ... correctly put ... was that Obama had not been in office long enough to be evaluated to that degree.

Same applies. Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

LOL at citing that web site as ANY kind of authority of what makes a good speech, and the obvious bias behind what was written.

As for the criticism of not providing specifics, it would be ridiculously hard to balance out how you are going to close an $8 billion hole in one speech. Those details will be very clear when the actual budget proposal comes out shortly. Such a criticism is petty and disingenuous.

Please, please give me the manager over the speaker; the doer over the orator.

Maybe he even found a teleprompter we don't need any longer and can sell it to the White House.

Strickland was such an abject failure as governor -- obfuscating his duties to try and balance the budget by simply putting it off and using federal dollars to close the holes. Kasich has a tremendous challenge ahead of him, because Strickland didn't do his job as a leader, and the legislature didn't do theirs by coming up with a way to start fixing this mess in the budget.

Writerbuckeye;705417 wrote:Strickland was such an abject failure as governor -- obfuscating his duties to try and balance the budget by simply putting it off and using federal dollars to close the holes. Kasich has a tremendous challenge ahead of him, because Strickland didn't do his job as a leader, and the legislature didn't do theirs by coming up with a way to start fixing this mess in the budget.

MEGA-truth.

QuakerOats;705445 wrote:MEGA-truth.

I concur.

Writerbuckeye;705417 wrote:Strickland was such an abject failure as governor -- obfuscating his duties to try and balance the budget by simply putting it off and using federal dollars to close the holes. Kasich has a tremendous challenge ahead of him, because Strickland didn't do his job as a leader, and the legislature didn't do theirs by coming up with a way to start fixing this mess in the budget.

This.

Obama thought by helping and giving Ohio billions he could get Strickland re-elected. WRONG!

It's still too early for me to really judge Kasich. There's been things I've liked and there's been things I've not liked. It'll take time for me to figure out which one outweighs the other.

I agree with Pants. I voted for Strickland the first time but not the second. I voted for Kasich, but don't know if I'll vote for him again... it's just too soon to know anything concrete.

It was more a Fox News cheer lead than a message Ohioans need to hear. Phony passion in place of thought. Thoughtfulness isn’t in Kasich’s vocabulary. It’s too hard. He doesn’t do hard.

Kasich had no prepared speech. His staff didn’t even know what he was going to say. It’s not surprising. He was going to wing it.

The man is lazy. So he did it the easy way. Preparation means work. Why prepare a speech when you can rattle off Fox News talk instead?

His talk is Fox; his policy is Lehman.

That’s not a governor. That’s not even a politician. That’s a pretentious partisan and manipulative ideologue.

The guy can't lead. We need to organize a recall as soon as we can.

http://www.plunderbund.com/2011/03/09/roldo-bartimole-on-governor-kasichs-state-of-the-state-more-bullshit-than-content/

i just felt he sounded like a preacher more than a politician...he spoke to people's fears and emotions.

i agreed with more of what he said than what i thought i would for example the part about consolodating mental health care and increased prenatal care as well as talking to people about how to cut spending in very obvious places with little red tape.. but it just seemed like his tone of voice was that he was telling people new information that we didn't know. half the time i was left with a no shit type of feeling.
he didnt really say how he would do any of these grandious things that he said could be done for each city. he really reminded me of listening to of jesse jackson or al sharpton.

i like the fact that he does seem to surround himself with smart people and those who know how to get things done. he does seem forward thinking as far as getting new types of businesses to ohio such as polymer research and uranium centrifuge work. I didnt like the fact that he referenced the film waiting for superman as this amazing movie that he wanted to show everyone. by mentioning that it made me feel that he really doesnt understand what is going on in the field of education . while the film makes some good points it also is full of biased half truths that just like his speech, is oversimplification of the problem. He seems to make issues more about sentiment than understanding. i like politicians to provide solutions not just tell us the problems we have in our state.
we already know the problems that our state has. he seemed way to emotionally involved and while passion is good, he seemed fanatical to some extent and was really making this all about him and how he was going to single handedly save our state. i didnt like the way that came accross it was too arrogant for my taste. i dont need a stirring speech i would rather you calmly provide some data and solutions. just my humble opinion

Bigdogg;706036 wrote:The guy can't lead. We need to organize a recall as soon as we can.

http://www.plunderbund.com/2011/03/09/roldo-bartimole-on-governor-kasichs-state-of-the-state-more-bullshit-than-content/

If you have financial interests to that web site, now would be a good time for disclosure. You cite it too much to be random.

Writerbuckeye;707123 wrote:If you have financial interests to that web site, now would be a good time for disclosure. You cite it too much to be random.

It's not even a source. It's a farking nutblog for christsakes.