swamisez
Posts: 1,990
Jan 12, 2011 11:59pm
what the hell are you talking about? i can't even follow your train of thought?
Of course I said 25 in my first post? I said he wouldn't be having many games like that.
You said he averages 17, insinuating I said he averages 25. I didn't say he did?
Liar? Misquote? What are you reading?
Of course I said 25 in my first post? I said he wouldn't be having many games like that.
You said he averages 17, insinuating I said he averages 25. I didn't say he did?
Liar? Misquote? What are you reading?
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Jan 13, 2011 12:04am
LOL @ OSU being "Decent"
Only an ignoramus would call this OSU team "decent"...
They've had some tough wins in the Big Ten, which is arguably the best conference in basketball, along with the Big East.
Only an ignoramus would call this OSU team "decent"...
They've had some tough wins in the Big Ten, which is arguably the best conference in basketball, along with the Big East.
swamisez
Posts: 1,990
Jan 13, 2011 12:07am
They win by 3 at home to Minnesota, by 4 at Michigan
Not a marker of greatness, a marker of decency
Not a marker of greatness, a marker of decency
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jan 13, 2011 12:09am
swamisez;636554 wrote:They win by 3 at home to Minnesota, by 4 at Michigan
Not a marker of greatness, a marker of decency
Well then I guess losing would make Duke less than decent? Correct? Because a loss is less decent than any win.
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Jan 13, 2011 12:09am
hoops23;636552 wrote:.
They've had some tough wins in the Big Ten, which is arguably the best conference in basketball, along with the Big East.
It's amazing how tough Big 10 play is. Close wins over Minny and now UM...Penn State, though they'll be coming to the Schott, ain't no slouch.
swamisez
Posts: 1,990
Jan 13, 2011 12:11am
Coach K: For us, I've said all along that we're not a great team with Kyrie's injury.
Not quite correct but close, without Kyrie Irving, Duke is merely decent. Will bow out in sweet 16, they are much like the 2007 squad.
Not quite correct but close, without Kyrie Irving, Duke is merely decent. Will bow out in sweet 16, they are much like the 2007 squad.
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Jan 13, 2011 12:13am
But seriously, have you ever heard a coach say a team was great unless they had just won the tournament?
swamisez
Posts: 1,990
Jan 13, 2011 12:14am
Sadly, I must retire. Will be interested to see what is posted in the AM.
Hope all have a good evening. Good night and Go Duke
Hope all have a good evening. Good night and Go Duke
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Jan 13, 2011 12:14am
swamisez;636554 wrote:They win by 3 at home to Minnesota, by 4 at Michigan
Not a marker of greatness, a marker of decency
You are either
A) Not very smart when it comes to basketball and level of competition
B) See A
C) See B
Minnesota was a top 25 team. Michigan is a scrappy team, as seen when they took KU to OT.
Duke has had some tough games recently as well, so quit talking out of your ass.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Jan 13, 2011 12:16am
ytownfootball;636557 wrote:It's amazing how tough Big 10 play is. Close wins over Minny and now UM...Penn State, though they'll be coming to the Schott, ain't no slouch.
This is why I WASN'T worried about some of the weak OOC games we had. The Big Ten will get you ready for the tourney. OSU WILL lose a couple of games, but those losses won't really matter. What matters is what you do in March/April.
I want the Buckeyes to be tested.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 13, 2011 12:18am
ytownfootball;636557 wrote:It's amazing how tough Big 10 play is.
UGH..this is getting incredibly annoying.
It's not JUST Big Ten play...conference games are tough for every conference. Stop making the Big Ten out to be some crazy tough conference, when there are upsets in every conference on a weekly basis.
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burt07
Posts: 600
Jan 13, 2011 12:19am
Ohio State didn't really do anything too impressive on offense in that game, they shot 32%. They definitely won it with defense.swamisez;636548 wrote:That is what makes what OSU did to FSU in the Big Ten ACC so remarkable. They shot the ball well and it opened things up inside.
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Jan 13, 2011 12:20am
hoops23;636568 wrote:This is why I WASN'T worried about some of the weak OOC games we had. The Big Ten will get you ready for the tourney. OSU WILL lose a couple of games, but those losses won't really matter. What matters is what you do in March/April.
I want the Buckeyes to be tested.
My thought exactly, though I left out the OOC schedule crap in hopes that that subject dies a slow death. People forget (I am guilty myself to a degree) of forgetting how difficult conference play is., and no, they'll lose a couple to probably an unlikely opponent.
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Jan 13, 2011 12:21am
SportsAndLady;636574 wrote:UGH..this is getting incredibly annoying.
It's not JUST Big Ten play...conference games are tough for every conference. Stop making the Big Ten out to be some crazy tough conference, when there are upsets in every conference on a weekly basis.
Did I imply other conferences play wasn't difficult? If so my apologies.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 13, 2011 12:23am
ytownfootball;636578 wrote:Did I imply other conferences play wasn't difficult? If so my apologies.
Didn't mean to call you out specifically..i just keep seeing all over here "man the Big Ten sure is difficult" just because a top team is knocked off by a lesser team. It happens in every conference..the big ten is good because their top teams are really good, not because there are upsets in the conference.
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Jan 13, 2011 12:26am
SportsAndLady;636580 wrote:Didn't mean to call you out specifically..i just keep seeing all over here "man the Big Ten sure is difficult" just because a top team is knocked off by a lesser team. It happens in every conference..the big ten is good because their top teams are really good, not because there are upsets in the conference.
I'm sure as a Kansas fan it appears so, but it is kind of a Big 10 homer board. And there will be upsets of top teams by lower teams, it happens every year.
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georgemc80
Posts: 983
Jan 13, 2011 8:37am
Should be an interesting year in basketball. Typical Duke loss, poor 3 pt.% (too many attempts also) and an opponent who manages to make their weaknesses disappear and puts together a stellar game.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Jan 13, 2011 8:50am
swamisez;636554 wrote:They win by 3 at home to Minnesota, by 4 at Michigan
Not a marker of greatness, a marker of decency
Interesting. So I would then assume, that Kansas is just "decent" as well, since it took them overtime to beat Michigan. And of course now there is Duke, would be LESS THAN decent, considering a "decent" OSU team obliterated Florida State on their home court, who just beat Duke. Ok, now I get it! lol
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Jan 13, 2011 9:30am
I think what makes OSU so good is the fact that they have 4 guys that could put up 30pts on any given night. Also, they all do it in different ways. Sully in the post, Dieblers the shooter, Buford in the mid-range game, Lighty as a slasher. It's easier for them to overcome a bad shooting night by a key player. OSU is going to get everyones best shot, which is a good thing for this team.
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norwalk
Posts: 158
Jan 13, 2011 9:50am
Don't read too much into the difference between Ohio State beating FSU and Duke losing to them. As someone above mentioned, the Big Ten in conference games are tough. Well FSU plays Duke well and it's a conference games. All conference games are touch as your opponent knows you better than OOC. Duke's lost doesn't surprise. Is Ohio State the number 1 team? Who knows, they have a lot of improving to do. The last 2 games they had chances to blow the opponent out and let them both back in down the stretch.
swamisez
Posts: 1,990
Jan 13, 2011 10:30am
There are no great teams, only lots of decent teams. That is the point I have been trying to make.
Kansas is a decent team, they will likely lose at Baylor next monday.
Ohio State is a decent team, they will put up solid wins but they are far from a juggernaut some of you Buckeye fans believe them to be.
Duke is a decent team, not great. With Kyrie Irving I think they were a great team, but without him they are very average.
Dana O'Neill wrote an article that echoes those sentiments (while I rarely side with Dana, I think I ultimately have here)
Kansas is a decent team, they will likely lose at Baylor next monday.
Ohio State is a decent team, they will put up solid wins but they are far from a juggernaut some of you Buckeye fans believe them to be.
Duke is a decent team, not great. With Kyrie Irving I think they were a great team, but without him they are very average.
Dana O'Neill wrote an article that echoes those sentiments (while I rarely side with Dana, I think I ultimately have here)
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Jan 13, 2011 11:02am
#1 will be nice, but it's highly improbable that OSU will run the table, so it's a temporary thing...as long as we keep improving and continue to play team ball, we'll be right there in March...GO BUCKS!!!
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Jan 13, 2011 12:19pm
I'm shocked.
FSU just lost to Auburn by 15.
Auburn lost at home to UNC-Asheville, Samford, Campbell, Jacksonville and Presbyterian. They also lost to Rutgers, South Florida and LSU, three BAD BCS conference teams.
Isn't this sport wild?
FSU just lost to Auburn by 15.
Auburn lost at home to UNC-Asheville, Samford, Campbell, Jacksonville and Presbyterian. They also lost to Rutgers, South Florida and LSU, three BAD BCS conference teams.
Isn't this sport wild?
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Jan 13, 2011 12:39pm
swamisez;636787 wrote:There are no great teams, only lots of decent teams. That is the point I have been trying to make.
Kansas is a decent team, they will likely lose at Baylor next monday.
Ohio State is a decent team, they will put up solid wins but they are far from a juggernaut some of you Buckeye fans believe them to be.
Duke is a decent team, not great. With Kyrie Irving I think they were a great team, but without him they are very average.
Dana O'Neill wrote an article that echoes those sentiments (while I rarely side with Dana, I think I ultimately have here)
I think Duke, OSU, Kansas and 'Cuse are better then just "decent". I think they are all very good on most nites. But there are other good teams that on any given nite can beat those teams. Are things pretty wide open? Absolutely. There is no team that stands out head and shoulders above anyone else. Not sure we have had that since the Florida back to back team. Obviously, quite a bit of equality in college basketball. Which IMO, makes it fun and more interesting.
Ankle Breaker
Posts: 398
Jan 13, 2011 12:49pm
Azubuike24;636891 wrote:I'm shocked.
FSU just lost to Auburn by 15.
Auburn lost at home to UNC-Asheville, Samford, Campbell, Jacksonville and Presbyterian. They also lost to Rutgers, South Florida and LSU, three BAD BCS conference teams.
Isn't this sport wild?
Agreed, this proves you can never tell what can happen from one game to the next. As cbf just pointed out, the race is wide open this year. One off night, one injury, foul trouble and you're beat. Purdue concerns me in the Big 10 as their defense appears to be stifling. It will be another great season for us to sit back and enjoy.