The Official Early Entry into the NFL Draft Thread

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Jan 10, 2011 10:25pm
charliehustle14;633172 wrote:I thought Dion was a true sophomore? I know he was in Pitt's 2009 recruiting class.

Yes Dion Lewis is a true sophomore.
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Jan 10, 2011 10:26pm
Illinois junior linebacker Martez Wilson he will enter the NFL draft.
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Jan 10, 2011 10:27pm
Big loss for Illinois. Especially if Leggett goes too.
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Jan 10, 2011 10:30pm
Pitts junior fullback Henry Hynoski also declared for the NFL draft.
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Jan 10, 2011 10:33pm
I guess since Lewis started in HS in 2004, that makes him eligible?

Like Larry Fitzgerald, I think.
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Jan 10, 2011 10:34pm
charliehustle14;633198 wrote:I guess since Lewis started in HS in 2004, that makes him eligible?

Like Larry Fitzgerald, I think.

Correct.
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Jan 10, 2011 10:35pm
Yes, I believe Lewis is in the same situation as Fitz.
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Jan 10, 2011 10:38pm
How does that work? Did he go to a prep school after HS or was he held back a year or something?
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Jan 10, 2011 10:40pm
Prep school.
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Jan 10, 2011 10:41pm
karen lotz;633211 wrote:How does that work? Did he go to a prep school after HS or was he held back a year or something?

Dion Lewis was held back a year in high school before attending a Prep School his senior year making him eligible for the NFL Draft.
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Jan 10, 2011 10:42pm
se-alum;633222 wrote:Prep school.

It does not matter if you go to prep school or not. The reason he is eligible for the draft is because he was held back a year in High School.
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Jan 10, 2011 10:52pm
Tiger2003;633228 wrote:It does not matter if you go to prep school or not. The reason he is eligible for the draft is because he was held back a year in High School.

Gotcha.
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Jan 10, 2011 11:16pm
Tiger2003;633228 wrote:It does not matter if you go to prep school or not. The reason he is eligible for the draft is because he was held back a year in High School.

That's not true. He is eligible because he has been out of high school for at least three years. In essence, he is eligible because he did go to prep school.
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Jan 10, 2011 11:18pm
dat dude;633371 wrote:That's not true. He is eligible because he has been out of high school for at least three years. In essence, he is eligible because he did go to prep school.


No, the rule has nothing to do with what he was doing at prep school. A player’s eligibility clock officially begins when he enters ninth grade because the rule is with regards to when his high school class graduates, not when he graduates.

Lewis was held back a year and thus was in high school for four years before going to prep school to finish his degree. That means even though he technically graduated in 2009 and is a true sophomore — his high school class graduated in 2008 so for purposes of determining his eligibility, he is treated like a third year player, not a second-year player.

The rule officially reads — “No player shall be permitted to apply for special eligibility for selection in the Draft, or otherwise be eligible for the Draft, until three NFL regular seasons have begun and ended following either his graduation from high school or graduation of the class with which he entered high school, whichever is earlier.”

So again, Lewis was held back a year in high school and that means his clock is a year ahead of what you would think it would be.
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Jan 10, 2011 11:18pm
dat dude;633371 wrote:That's not true. He is eligible because he has been out of high school for at least three years. In essence, he is eligible because he did go to prep school.


I believe this is right. The rule is 3 years after your high school class graduates.
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Jan 10, 2011 11:22pm
Yes he is eligible for the draft because he was held back a year. Damn people how many different way do you need to be told.
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Jan 10, 2011 11:25pm
Tiger2003;633387 wrote:Yes he is eligible for the draft because he was held back a year. Damn people.

Lol...it doesn't matter if he was held back, he was out of high school three years. It's not three years after you graduate, out of high school.
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Jan 10, 2011 11:26pm
Tiger2003;633376 wrote:No, the rule has nothing to do with what he was doing at prep school. A player’s eligibility clock officially begins when he enters ninth grade because the rule is with regards to when his high school class graduates, not when he graduates.

Lewis was held back a year and thus was in high school for four years before going to prep school to finish his degree. That means even though he technically graduated in 2009 and is a true sophomore — his high school class graduated in 2008 so for purposes of determining his eligibility, he is treated like a third year player, not a second-year player.

The rule officially reads — “No player shall be permitted to apply for special eligibility for selection in the Draft, or otherwise be eligible for the Draft, until three NFL regular seasons have begun and ended following either his graduation from high school or graduation of the class with which he entered high school, whichever is earlier.”

So again, Lewis was held back a year in high school and that means his clock is a year ahead of what you would think it would be.

The point is that the NFL eligibility requirements don't mention "being held back a year in high school." As mentioned, you have to be out of high school for at least 3 years.
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Jan 10, 2011 11:27pm
Tiger2003;633387 wrote:Yes he is eligible for the draft because he was held back a year. Damn people how many different way do you need to be told.
3 more ways, please.
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Jan 10, 2011 11:30pm
dat dude;633397 wrote:The point is that the NFL eligibility requirements don't mention "being held back a year in high school." As mentioned, you have to be out of high school for at least 3 years.

No your class that your entered into high school has to be out 3 years. So when Dion Lewis was held back his sophomore year the rest of his class were juniors while he was still a sophomore.
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Jan 10, 2011 11:32pm
ytownfootball;633395 wrote:Lol...it doesn't matter if he was held back, he was out of high school three years. It's not three years after you graduate, out of high school.

Being a true sophomore yes it does matter. He would be a junior in college if he was not held back in high school. He would not be having this argument if he was a junior, but the question was asked why is he eligible only being a true sophomore....in that reason is because he was held back a year in high school and his graduating class has been out of high school 3 years.
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Jan 11, 2011 8:58am
So he was "held back" in high school? As in he repeated the 10th grade or something? So, did he play 5 years of high school and a year of prep school football?
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Jan 11, 2011 10:59am
Mikel LeShure from Illinois is entering the draft
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Jan 11, 2011 11:46am
slcoach;633913 wrote:So he was "held back" in high school? As in he repeated the 10th grade or something? So, did he play 5 years of high school and a year of prep school football?

After his junior year of high school he attended a Prep School for his senior year. If he was not held back that would have been his freshman year of college.


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Jan 11, 2011 7:25pm
Tiger2003;634042 wrote:After his junior year of high school he attended a Prep School for his senior year. If he was not held back that would have been his freshman year of college.


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You are a moron. You have to be removed from high school for THREE years before you can enter the NFL Draft. Look it up dumb ass. In order for Lewis to be eligible as a True Sophomore, he will have to either waited a year to join the football team, or attended a prep school. He attended Blair Academy I believe, before signing with Pitt. It does not matter if you were held back or not in high school. The reason for going to a prep school, and I COULD be wrong, would be because if he was held back in high school - you don't get five years of eligibility in high school, thus making him ineligible for his senior year. Look it up before you post your "facts" dipshit.