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Jan 3, 2011 1:54 PM
AP:
1 Duke (65) 13-0 1,625
2 Ohio State 14-0 1,551
3 Kansas 13-0 1,491
4 Syracuse 15-0 1,437
5 Pittsburgh 13-1 1,358
6 San Diego State 15-0 1,198
7 Villanova 12-1 1,187
8 Connecticut 11-1 1,168
9 Missouri 13-1 1,116
10 Kentucky 11-2 1,052
11 Purdue 13-1 930
12 Texas 11-2 902
13 Georgetown 12-2 834
14 Notre Dame 12-2 688
15 Brigham Young 14-1 648
16 Texas A&M 12-1 569
17 Kansas State 11-3 523
18 Michigan State 9-4 504
19 UCF 13-0 490
20 Illinois 12-3 328
21 Memphis 11-2 313
22 Vanderbilt 11-2 238
23 Washington 10-3 173
24 Cincinnati 14-0 159
25 UNLV 12-2 136

Coaches:
1 Duke (31) 13-0 775
2 Ohio State 14-0 742
3 Kansas 13-0 714
4 Syracuse 15-0 678
5 Pittsburgh 13-1 639
6 San Diego State 15-0 600
7 Villanova 12-1 577
8 Missouri 13-1 536
9 Connecticut 11-1 516
10 Purdue 13-1 489
11 Kentucky 11-2 477
12 Texas 11-2 424
13 Georgetown 12-2 417
14 Brigham Young 14-1 356
15 Notre Dame 12-2 316
16 Texas A&M 12-1 285
17 Kansas State 11-3 271
18 UCF 13-0 204
19 Michigan State 9-4 203
20 Illinois 12-3 142
21 Minnesota 11-3 128
22 Memphis 11-2 110
23 Louisville 11-2 73
24 Vanderbilt 11-2 71
25 Cincinnati 14-0 56


Cincinnati makes their way into the polls for the first time, will be interesting to see what they can do in the Crosstown Shootout this week, and then against some more legitimate competition.
Jan 3, 2011 1:54pm
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Jan 3, 2011 4:48 PM
I don't see how georgetown is above nd. When nd beat georgetown?
Jan 3, 2011 4:48pm
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Jan 3, 2011 5:01 PM
Yea, weird. Oh well, if we go 2-0 this week we'll jump them. If not, it won't matter anyways.
Jan 3, 2011 5:01pm
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Jan 3, 2011 6:40 PM
Yeah, I would agree with you 2.

Notre Dame's losses are to Kentucky and Syracuse. Even though both of them were by 10+, they aren't bad losses.

We will see how Georgetown's loss to Temple looks in the coming weeks.
Jan 3, 2011 6:40pm
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Jan 3, 2011 6:54 PM
Yea, and although they were by plus ten, ND was competitive in each, with an 11 point lead against Kentucky in Louisville and a 6 point second half lead at Syracuse.
Jan 3, 2011 6:54pm
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Jan 3, 2011 7:43 PM
burt07;62311 wrote: Cincinnati makes their way into the polls for the first time, will be interesting to see what they can do in the Crosstown Shootout this week, and then against some more legitimate competition.

Oklahoma and UD aren't bad. UD is 12-3 and has played some decent competition. UC crushed them. I don't know if X is that good this year to be honest. However, it is the Shootout and anything can happen. Obviously I am looking forward to the game but UC's real test will be the following game against Villanova.
Jan 3, 2011 7:43pm
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Jan 3, 2011 7:48 PM
Little Danny;623489 wrote:Oklahoma and UD aren't bad. UD is 12-3 and has played some decent competition. UC crushed them. I don't know if X is that good this year to be honest. However, it is the Shootout and anything can happen. Obviously I am looking forward to the game but UC's real test will be the following game against Villanova.

Oklahoma isn't bad?

They lost to Chaminade. They do not have a win this year against a team that will make the tournament.
Jan 3, 2011 7:48pm
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Jan 3, 2011 7:53 PM
I'm not saying they are good either. They do have some good, young athletes and will be better as the year progresses. Even though Oklahoma is down, beating an Oklahoma carries a lot more weight than playing a lower level DI program.

BTW, Chaminade has pulled off a number of wins over larger programs over the years.
Jan 3, 2011 7:53pm
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Jan 3, 2011 7:58 PM
That's fine.

But THIS year, Oklahoma is not a good team. Beating Oklahoma will carry more weight ONLY because they are in the Big 12. It has nothing to do with how good of team they are, which is wrong IMO.

Oklahoma is 7-6. Chaminade is 7-5 and is Div. 2.
Jan 3, 2011 7:58pm
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Jan 3, 2011 7:59 PM
There is flat out no way that UC deserves to be ranked. RPI in the 60's and a strength of schedule that INCLUDES 2 Big East schools in the 320s?!?! You have played no one. UD lost to Savannah fucking state. Oklahoma's best win is Oral Roberts. Get the fuck out of here.

There is honestly a good chance that X beats them in the shootout and then Villanova beats the living piss out of them. 14-0 and then 2 straight losses gets you a shut the fuck up and go away card for Mick. X might not beat them in the shootout depending which X team comes to play, but Villanova is definitely better than the Clifton losers.
Jan 3, 2011 7:59pm
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Jan 3, 2011 8:01 PM
CinciX12;623522 wrote:There is flat out no way that UC deserves to be ranked. RPI in the 60's and a strength of schedule that INCLUDES 2 Big East schools in the 320s?!?! You have played no one. UD lost to Savannah fucking state. Oklahoma's best win is Oral Roberts. Get the fuck out of here.

There is honestly a good chance that X beats them in the shootout and then Villanova beats the living piss out of them. 14-0 and then 2 straight losses gets you a shut the fuck up and go away card for Mick. X might not beat them in the shootout depending which X team comes to play, but Villanova is definitely better than the Clifton losers.

X12, you going to the game? I won't be able to make, I live in Columbus. There is a joint UC/XU alumni gathering here in Columbus at the Montgomery Inn in Dublin. Looking forward to see if the Cats are legit.
Jan 3, 2011 8:01pm
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Jan 3, 2011 8:01 PM
Seton Hall is your best fucking win Mick and they wouldn't be in the top half of the A10 this year. Get the fuck outta here.

No one could ever guess its Crosstown week from my attitude I'm sure. But seriously, get the fuck outta here if you think that UC deserves jack shit. These are the same players as last year. Its not like OSU and adding Sullinger.
Jan 3, 2011 8:01pm
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Jan 3, 2011 8:02 PM
Little Danny;623527 wrote:X12, you going to the game?

I am actually! Are you going? It would be nice to know there is at least one sane person with a C on their shirt in the building:cool:
Jan 3, 2011 8:02pm
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Jan 3, 2011 9:09 PM
Georgetown takes a hit tonight.

3 point loss on the road in MSG to St. John's.

Kid from St. John's absolutely had one of the best half cross overs I have ever seen to get to the rim with seconds left.
Jan 3, 2011 9:09pm
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Jan 3, 2011 9:22 PM
CinciX12;623522 wrote:UD lost to Savannah fucking state.
Maybe next time you use the foul language for emphasis you should at least make sure your statement is correct.
Jan 3, 2011 9:22pm
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Jan 3, 2011 10:46 PM
ralphus33;623689 wrote:Maybe next time you use the foul language for emphasis you should at least make sure your statement is correct.

Correct. My apologies.

Lets discuss you getting raped by UC. They doubled your score like they were playing a junior high girls team. That I am positive of.
Jan 3, 2011 10:46pm
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Jan 3, 2011 10:50 PM
My sincere apologies indeed now that I actually wasted 20 seconds of my life and looked up something on UD basketball. UD lost to East Tennessee State. Which is easily confused with another shitty school called Savannah State. Again, my sincerest apologies.
Jan 3, 2011 10:50pm
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Jan 4, 2011 10:40 AM
Oklohoma is not very good this year. UD certainly isn't great. UC has played as horrific a schedule as i can ever remember. That being said i do believe this is a much better uc team than the last couple of years. I think they will beat X on Thursday and then we will see how good they are actually going to be against Villanova and the rest of the big east. Only time will tell, but i expect them to be slightly better than .500 in BEast play.
Jan 4, 2011 10:40am
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Jan 4, 2011 12:12 PM
wildcats20;623651 wrote:Georgetown takes a hit tonight.

3 point loss on the road in MSG to St. John's.

Kid from St. John's absolutely had one of the best half cross overs I have ever seen to get to the rim with seconds left.
Yeah that definitely was a nice move, a good win for the Storm but it might be tough sledding for them coming up, I saw that graphic about how their next 6 or 7 games are against ranked opponents. Definitely seem to be going in the right direction though.
Jan 4, 2011 12:12pm
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Jan 5, 2011 1:52 AM
alwaysawarrior;624181 wrote:Oklohoma is not very good this year. UD certainly isn't great. UC has played as horrific a schedule as i can ever remember. That being said i do believe this is a much better uc team than the last couple of years. I think they will beat X on Thursday and then we will see how good they are actually going to be against Villanova and the rest of the big east. Only time will tell, but i expect them to be slightly better than .500 in BEast play.

Agreed. My argument is on deserving a ranking.

And it was nice to see ND take down UConn tonight. Might put them in the top 10?
Jan 5, 2011 1:52am
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Jan 5, 2011 1:54 AM
CinciX12;626334 wrote:Agreed. My argument is on deserving a ranking.

And it was nice to see ND take down UConn tonight. Might put them in the top 10?

Not if they lose to the Johnnies on Saturday. Which, I think they might.

Edit..

Eh, nevermind, it's in South Bend.
Jan 5, 2011 1:54am
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Jan 5, 2011 2:04 AM
wildcats20;626336 wrote:Not if they lose to the Johnnies on Saturday. Which, I think they might.

Edit..

Eh, nevermind, it's in South Bend.
At this point wherever St. John's plays it doesn't seem to matter. Team is for real.
Jan 5, 2011 2:04am
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Jan 5, 2011 2:05 AM
The next 2 weeks will really be telling for the Johnnies.

But the one sure thing is Lavin has them going in the right direction. The Garden was really rocking the other night
Jan 5, 2011 2:05am
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Jan 5, 2011 2:20 AM
It might depend on whether Carleton Scott is back or not, but the Irish still should be favored at home against the Johnnies. I am worried about traveling to the garden the following weekend though
Jan 5, 2011 2:20am