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holdingout
Posts: 585
Dec 29, 2010 9:13pm
He made this statement during Texas Bowl on ESPN. He doesn't think Tressel will make this public until game time. He also said that 80-90% of the Buckeye Nation would agree to this. Interesting.
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Dec 29, 2010 9:15pm
I agree. Sit their asses.
Troy sat his bowl game.
I've met no one, other than posters on here, that says they should play.
Troy sat his bowl game.
I've met no one, other than posters on here, that says they should play.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Dec 29, 2010 9:16pm
I wouldn't play them and I think that in a perfect world, Tress wouldn't play them either. But IMO we will see Tress make them sit out a quarter or two and then they will all play after that.
Otherwise I don't think you would have seen Gene Smith jumping on top of the grenade and begging for their eligibility for next week's game. The BCS, Big 10, and Ohio State all have a vested interest in those guys playing.
Otherwise I don't think you would have seen Gene Smith jumping on top of the grenade and begging for their eligibility for next week's game. The BCS, Big 10, and Ohio State all have a vested interest in those guys playing.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Dec 29, 2010 9:19pm
ptown_trojans_1;617487 wrote:I agree. Sit their asses.
Troy sat his bowl game.
I've met no one, other than posters on here, that says they should play.
Wasn't T Smith suspended for the bowl game?
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Dec 29, 2010 9:25pm
wildcats20;617492 wrote:Wasn't T Smith suspended for the bowl game?
Yes. And the first game of the next year.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Dec 29, 2010 9:26pm
I love Spiels, but he is a little nuts sometimes...
He also just said that the Illinois QB should have fell down short of the goal line when there wasn't a player within 20 yards of him to run out the clock.
Oh and it's CHRIS, not CRIS.
He also just said that the Illinois QB should have fell down short of the goal line when there wasn't a player within 20 yards of him to run out the clock.
Oh and it's CHRIS, not CRIS.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Dec 29, 2010 9:29pm
And now he's OK with Baylor calling timeout with 5 seconds left in order to run a play. "Never quit", but Illinois should quit because they are dominating?
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charliehustle14
Posts: 2,224
Dec 29, 2010 9:30pm
wildcats20;617504 wrote:And now he's OK with Baylor calling timeout with 5 seconds left in order to run a play. "Never quit", but Illinois should quit because they are dominating?
Yeah he contradicted himself terribly.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Dec 29, 2010 9:33pm
If they sit the suspensions should be reduced to two games. 5 is fucking ridiculous.
Tobias Fünke
Posts: 2,387
Dec 29, 2010 9:37pm
So the dumbass gym teacher is the one not against them sitting for this game?
They should sit this game and 2-3 the next year.
They should sit this game and 2-3 the next year.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Dec 29, 2010 9:39pm
ccrunner609;617496 wrote:I sat and heard him saying that stuff............If tressel thinks this will help the appeal process and reduce punishment (5 games is bullshit for selling their own shit) he will sit them out. Probably 1 QTR.
As far as 80-90% agreeing.....not that high.
So Tressel sitting them for 1 quarter means the 5 games should be reduced next year? That makes sense.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Dec 29, 2010 9:41pm
Automatik;617515 wrote:If they sit the suspensions should be reduced to two games. 5 is fucking ridiculous.
The NCAA stated that they would have gotten 4 games, just like AJ Green did to start this year, but the 5th game was added because they didn't report the violation once they were aware of it.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Dec 29, 2010 9:43pm
Also, I don't know if it was discussed on any of the other 19 threads on this subject, but I saw a tweet from Kevin Gordon (I think) that said that one of the Sugar Bowl execs asked OSU to allow the players to play in the game "to keep the integrity of the game" or something along those lines. I'll try to dig up the article.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Dec 29, 2010 9:43pm
karen lotz;617530 wrote:The NCAA stated that they would have gotten 4 games, just like AJ Green did to start this year, but the 5th game was added because they didn't report the violation once they were aware of it.
4 games is still too much of a penalty. Here and the AJ Green situation.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Dec 29, 2010 9:44pm
ccrunner609;617532 wrote:Sure why not.......do you really think 2 qtrs is all that much more? If the whole game means they only get 2 next year then sit them. Bowl games doesnt mean shit.
No, I think a game equals a game. For you to say they should sit for a quarter and then have the suspension reduced because of it is not smart.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Dec 29, 2010 9:45pm
wildcats20;617534 wrote:4 games is still too much of a penalty. Here and the AJ Green situation.
Don't disagree with that, but I think the NCAA was trying to be consistent in its penalties (for once).
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Dec 29, 2010 9:46pm
karen lotz;617537 wrote:Don't disagree with that, but I think the NCAA was trying to be consistent in its penalties (for once).
Yeah.
They did come out today and defend their decisions with the OSU and Auburn issues. Saying they deny playing favorites....
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5966515
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Dec 29, 2010 9:48pm
karen lotz;617533 wrote:Also, I don't know if it was discussed on any of the other 19 threads on this subject, but I saw a tweet from Kevin Gordon (I think) that said that one of the Sugar Bowl execs asked OSU to allow the players to play in the game "to keep the integrity of the game" or something along those lines. I'll try to dig up the article.
This was said in the article I just posted...
Before the NCAA handed down its penalties, Ohio State officials informed Sugar Bowl organizers that the school was lobbying for the players to be eligible for the Jan. 4 game.
Sugar Bowl executive director Paul Hoolahan told The Columbus Dispatch that he encouraged Ohio State officials to push for the players to be allowed to play against Arkansas.
"I made the point that anything that could be done to preserve the integrity of this year's game, we would greatly appreciate it," Hoolahan was quoted was saying in Wednesday's editions of the newspaper. "That appeal did not fall on deaf ears, and I'm extremely excited about it, that the Buckeyes are coming in at full strength and with no dilution."
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Dec 29, 2010 9:51pm
Cool thanks for adding that cats.
And it is Ken Gordon, not Kevin.
And it is Ken Gordon, not Kevin.
gerb131
Posts: 9,932
Dec 29, 2010 10:05pm
If he does sit them I'd be highly pissed as a fan who went to the game. It wouldn't be right.
Sykotyk
Posts: 1,155
Dec 29, 2010 10:16pm
gerb131;617551 wrote:If he does sit them I'd be highly pissed as a fan who went to the game. It wouldn't be right.
And therein lies the problem. Selective punishments to accommodate the moneyed interests involved.
Scarlet_Fever
Posts: 736
Dec 29, 2010 10:29pm
ccrunner609;617532 wrote: Bowl games doesnt mean shit.
Wrong Bowl games mean money. If OSU benches them then it could mean money for the Sugar Bowl. Which will make the Sugar Bowl less likely to pick OSU the next time. Well I guess not if they wait until game time cause the sponsers will already be in so maybe the do it at game time.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Dec 29, 2010 10:36pm
Its a NO WIN situation for Tress. Some will be pissed IF he does sit them. Some will be pissed IF he doesn't sit them. Word through the grapevine is that they WILL play. How much and when is the question.
Tressel is paid to coach the team, make the decisions. He is paid to WIN games. The 5 games is excessive IMO. Why ding them anymore? It wasn't OSU or Tress decision to let them play the bowl game, it was the NCAA.
I'll respect whatever he decides to do. Its his ship.
Tressel is paid to coach the team, make the decisions. He is paid to WIN games. The 5 games is excessive IMO. Why ding them anymore? It wasn't OSU or Tress decision to let them play the bowl game, it was the NCAA.
I'll respect whatever he decides to do. Its his ship.
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zach24oz
Posts: 598
Dec 29, 2010 10:43pm
^^ Agree with that. But IMO I would sit them just to save anything else that would happen to come along later on down the road...It would also get the NCAA's respect when going for the appeal to decrease the suspension...hopefully.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Dec 29, 2010 11:01pm
zach24oz;617596 wrote:^^ Agree with that. But IMO I would sit them just to save anything else that would happen to come along later on down the road...It would also get the NCAA's respect when going for the appeal to decrease the suspension...hopefully.
The NCAA won't give a rats ass if they sit or not. Greene got 4 games. I don't know if Georgia appealed that or not. So its highly unlikely, no matter what..that OSU won't win the appeal. And if they do, at most it will probably only be one game.