thedynasty1998;595333 wrote:It's sad that you pretend to know so much, yet can't even distinguish the difference between a fluid and a stiff athlete. Why are you comparing him to Tebow? Like I said, Tebow was a better passer and ran the ball like a running back. They are different types of runners.

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centralbucksfan;595367 wrote:I never said they were similar players either. So don't start with the bullshit comparisons. Point being, since you don't get it(pretty sad), Pryor is twice the athletic Tebow is, Tebow played in a system program, Pryor is not. Potential, which is what the NFL and NBA go on, is off the charts to Pryor compared to Tebow. Based on that simple fact, there is NO question Pryor would be drafted within the top 3 rounds.

And believe me you, I understand the difference in your ignorant stiff statement. Comical. I have seen Pryor play basketball, and watched enough of him over the years to realize he is far from stiff. He is a 6'5" 235 freak athlete who could have written his ticket in either sport. Stiffs don't do that. Is he elusive in the open field with great foot quckness, no he isn't. Who the hell is at that size? Newton isn't either. That doesn't mean they are stiff. duh.
And I am not saying Pryor is that or that. But he is much better then you and many others are claiming he is. Your little kid unrealistic expectations get in the way of reality just as they did with Diebler.

thedynasty1998;595127 wrote: Tebow is 10X the passer that Pryor was. Plus, I still think part of drafting Tebow had something to do with a public relations move or marketing purposes. With that said, I do think Tebow is a much better pro prospect.

ytownfootball;595419 wrote:Statements like these are why people think you're an idiot (well, know).

The reason there was so much hesitancy to draft Timmy was his shit mechanics...dude even had a special workout to show potential suitors his "progress" in that regard.

PR move for Tebow in Denver? Yeah because everyone in mile high would fill the stands and buy gear...Denver ain't Jax

Lol...TEN TIMES THE PASSER...please dude

WebFire;595436 wrote:Stiff is exactly how I would describe TP. He's a good athlete. Doesn't mean he'll be good in the NFL.

ytownfootball;595451 wrote:Funny thing though is Web (for the record I don't really care how people describe his style) but what I hear the most is "effortless", "like he's not even trying", "gliding"...stiff I haven't heard yet. Lol

ytownfootball;595451 wrote:Funny thing though is Web (for the record I don't really care how people describe his style) but what I hear the most is "effortless", "like he's not even trying", "gliding"...stiff I haven't heard yet. Lol

thedynasty1998;595408 wrote:Regarding his 30-4 record as a starter, don't give him too much credit for that. Anyone could have played QB at OSU the last three years and had a great winning percentage. He wasn't asked to do anything his freshman season, had the offense taken away from him last year up until the bowl game and has shown some progress this year. The overall record is way too overstated in his defense.

thedynasty1998;595474 wrote:I would agree with that as well, when running in a straight line. There are Olympic sprinters who are great in the 100 or whatever, but they may not be good at changing direction. He does glide when he runs, but when it comes to changing direction on the move or making guys miss, that's where he looks stiff.

ytownfootball;595451 wrote:Funny thing though is Web (for the record I don't really care how people describe his style) but what I hear the most is "effortless", "like he's not even trying", "gliding"...stiff I haven't heard yet. Lol

elbuckeye28;595539 wrote:But it's not that he can't cut or change direction. He just does not do it as well as some of the other players. If you put amazing straight line runner+average change of direction runner=great runner.

centralbucksfan;595066 wrote:Its not close because Pryor isn't the focal point in OSU rushing attack. As noted MANY times, Pryor ran MUCH less, about 120 attempts less. The YPC are close. I am not saying Pryor is better than Newton, he isn't. But comparing the rushing is ridiculous when one is the main runner for his team, and the other isn't. Passing stats are in FACT VERY close.

cats gone wild;595621 wrote:The passing stats are close? So, basically Newton being better in pretty much every stat (rushing/passing) and having alot higher QB percentage (against a bunch of ranked teams in which Pryor hasnt faced more than 1)........yeah, I can see your point.

And, lol about Pryor being twice the athlete Tebow was. I would like to see Pryor put his team on his back and run people over to get the tough yards like Tebow did. I would love to see Pryor have half the accomplishments Tebow had also. Next year before the season starts we will hear the same 2 lines we've heard the past 2 or 3 seasons. " OSU will win the title" and "Pryor will win Heisman or be one of the top Heisman candidates."

Automatik;595624 wrote:Don't you wish you could say the same about LSU or one of their players?

cats gone wild;595661 wrote:Yup, sure do. Ive said plenty of times, I would take Pryor at LSU.

Automatik;595664 wrote:Then why the CONSTANT knocking of OSU? The way the fans act isn't going to change.....doesn't it get old?

cats gone wild;595661 wrote:Yup, sure do. Ive said plenty of times, I would take Pryor at LSU.

thedynasty1998;595432 wrote:The criticism with Tebow was his long delivery and the fact that he never played under center. That was mechanics and not his accuracy or arm strength. Big difference, as NFL coaches think they can correct some of those mechanical problems. Tebow was highly successful for a three year period, in which he threw for over 2700 yards in each, completed over 65% of his passes and had 83 TD's compared to 15 Int's.

So yes, he was 10X the passer Pryor was, because his stats proved it, he has the arm strength and was accurate.

Pryor's criticism won't be necessarily his mechanics, but more so his accuracy and arm strength.

As for the marketing standpoint, I know it's ridiculous, but I just don't know why the hell Denver drafts him. But with that said, he does sell a ton of jerseys and is a fan favorite.

WebFire;595611 wrote:I don't think he is average at cutting and finding lanes. He lacks some vision too, IMO. He runs well onces he gets into open space.

cats gone wild;595621 wrote:The passing stats are close? So, basically Newton being better in pretty much every stat (rushing/passing) and having alot higher QB percentage (against a bunch of ranked teams in which Pryor hasnt faced more than 1)........yeah, I can see your point.

And, lol about Pryor being twice the athlete Tebow was. I would like to see Pryor put his team on his back and run people over to get the tough yards like Tebow did. I would love to see Pryor have half the accomplishments Tebow had also. Next year before the season starts we will hear the same 2 lines we've heard the past 2 or 3 seasons. " OSU will win the title" and "Pryor will win Heisman or be one of the top Heisman candidates."

elbuckeye28;595727 wrote:How can you say he is below average, especially for a QB? I mean he is no where near as quick as Denard, but no one would expect him to be at 6'6". I think this is all perception because he is so big that it does not look so smooth. I have seem him make plenty of good cuts over the last few years, but he is so big that he it does not look as smooth. It is effective though and that's what it is important.