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Big Gain

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Dec 10, 2010 1:34 AM
It would be Miller, the #1 rated Dual Threat QB in the 2011 class.

Did you see this kid in the State Playoffs? He throws the ball RIGHT NOW better than Pryor does and runs a 4.4 forty. Not as powerful of a runner as Pryor at 6-2 200, but is quicker and has more moves. And has played at a MUCH higher level in high school than Pryor did. His team lost in the last minute of the DI Title game.
Dec 10, 2010 1:34am
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Dec 10, 2010 1:53 AM
I have seen Miller highlights. And I think he will be a better QB than Pryor when all is said and done, Assuming he stays healthy. Because like you said...He already has better form and is a better pure passer,along with being a more elusive runner
Dec 10, 2010 1:53am
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Dec 10, 2010 12:09 PM
Braxton Miller is the real deal. I wonder if OSU plans on redshirting him next year or actually giving him some time? I doubt he's a 5 year guy, so might as well get someone out of him immediately.
Dec 10, 2010 12:09pm
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Dec 10, 2010 12:09 PM
Hb31187;594961 wrote:I have seen Miller highlights. And I think he will be a better QB than Pryor when all is said and done, Assuming he stays healthy. Because like you said...He already has better form and is a better pure passer,along with being a more elusive runner
+1...more Troy than Terrelle, and IMO, he'll prolly redshirt next season
Dec 10, 2010 12:09pm
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rock_knutne

Dec 10, 2010 12:30 PM
FYI on Baldwin's comments.......he made that statement after Wannstedt was fired, he came out the next day and apologized for the comments and said he was acting on pure emotion. FWIW, Baldwin is right, he wasn't used properly this year because Pitt didn't have a QB who could throw the ball down the field.
Dec 10, 2010 12:30pm
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Dec 10, 2010 12:52 PM
vball10set;595237 wrote:+1...more Troy than Terrelle, and IMO, he'll prolly redshirt next season

Agree. No reason to play Miller next year unless they absolutely have to.
Dec 10, 2010 12:52pm
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Dec 10, 2010 1:02 PM
se-alum;595313 wrote:Agree. No reason to play Miller next year unless they absolutely have to.

Redshirts are up to the player. The coaches give the kid advice but the redshirt descision at OSU is the players choice. If Braxton is the 2nd best QB or 3rd best QB when applicable. I am just saying that there is a possiblity he won't be redshirted. He could be used in a wildcat formation or as a RB or WR for that matter.
Dec 10, 2010 1:02pm
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Dec 10, 2010 1:09 PM
OneBuckeye;595326 wrote:Redshirts are up to the player. The coaches give the kid advice but the redshirt descision at OSU is the players choice. If Braxton is the 2nd best QB or 3rd best QB when applicable. I am just saying that there is a possiblity he won't be redshirted. He could be used in a wildcat formation or as a RB or WR for that matter.

But it's the coaches decision to play them.

If the OSU coaches think he stays for four years, it doesn't hurt to redshirt him. But you don't want to redshirt a guy for him to leave after his redshirt sophomore season. If they think he has that kind of potential you use him in some way his freshman year to get him a little experience.
Dec 10, 2010 1:09pm
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Dec 10, 2010 1:18 PM
thedynasty1998;595337 wrote:But it's the coaches decision to play them.

If the OSU coaches think he stays for four years, it doesn't hurt to redshirt him. But you don't want to redshirt a guy for him to leave after his redshirt sophomore season. If they think he has that kind of potential you use him in some way his freshman year to get him a little experience.

Right and Pryor was not redshirted, so I think there is some precident there. It is the coaches choice to play him, but the coaches won't put him down the depth chart so he doesn't play if he didn't want to redshirt. So if he doens't redshirt it is up to his abilities compared to everyone else. I think he could be the 2nd or 3rd string for sure next year. Taylor Graham is going to surprise people at QB me thinks.
Dec 10, 2010 1:18pm
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Dec 10, 2010 1:21 PM
OneBuckeye;595350 wrote:Right and Pryor was not redshirted, so I think there is some precident there. It is the coaches choice to play him, but the coaches won't put him down the depth chart so he doesn't play if he didn't want to redshirt. So if he doens't redshirt it is up to his abilities compared to everyone else. I think he could be the 2nd or 3rd string for sure next year. Taylor Graham is going to surprise people at QB me thinks.

Taylor Graham will never get a shot. That's just reality, although I've heard positive things about him.

I think logic would say you redshirt Miller if he's just going to be a backup, but with his potential you might have to consider that you don't get him for four years. Either way it won't really matter.
Dec 10, 2010 1:21pm
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Dec 10, 2010 1:31 PM
OneBuckeye;595326 wrote:Redshirts are up to the player. The coaches give the kid advice but the redshirt descision at OSU is the players choice. If Braxton is the 2nd best QB or 3rd best QB when applicable. I am just saying that there is a possiblity he won't be redshirted. He could be used in a wildcat formation or as a RB or WR for that matter.

Then shoudn't the decision to take a redhirt off be up to the player as well? earlier this season the coaches were goin to take it off Etienne Sabino, but then decided against it--and in the articles I read nowhere did it mention that Sabino had any say in the matter--just wondering
Dec 10, 2010 1:31pm
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Dec 10, 2010 1:47 PM
vball10set;595365 wrote:Then shoudn't the decision to take a redhirt off be up to the player as well? earlier this season the coaches were goin to take it off Etienne Sabino, but then decided against it--and in the articles I read nowhere did it mention that Sabino had any say in the matter--just wondering

He didn't get it taken off, I think he had a large say in it. He had an opportunity to start for a few games and get a lot of PT. If he wanted to take it off he would have and would have played in the rotation. He wants to start at LB for 2 years and redshirting was how that was going to happen. Obvisouly if we had 3 major injuries at LB maybe he would have taken it off to help the team, but who knows. Again i'm sure they get conciled on how to handle the redshirt but the final decision is their's.
Dec 10, 2010 1:47pm
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Dec 10, 2010 1:57 PM
I realize he didn't get it taken off, but I understood it was the coaches decision not to take it off, and that Sabino had no say in the matter. As a matter of fact, his reluctance to do so was well documented, which may or may not have influenced the coaches' ultimate decision. But the fact remains that it was the coaches decision whether to let him keep it or to take it off, not Sabino's.
Dec 10, 2010 1:57pm
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Dec 10, 2010 2:09 PM
I think the coaches reserve the right if the extreme needs comes up, but in this case we were playing a couple of cupcakes and we had capable scholly players availble and the injuries were not season ending. It is the players decision to redshirt if they aren't starting as long as everyone isn't redshirting at once. Look at Marcus Hall he felt like he wasn't with it and redshirted, he could have been a part time starter at least. The coaches wouldn't have done that themselves.
Dec 10, 2010 2:09pm
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Dec 10, 2010 2:16 PM
I guess it's fair to say that it's a collaborative decision based on what's the most beneficial to both parties--and that's the way it should be.
Dec 10, 2010 2:16pm
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Sonofanump

Dec 10, 2010 3:03 PM
ccrunner609;595427 wrote:Being a competative distance runner at an elite level is alot harder then playing any level of football.
I disagree with your statement. It is more difficult for cardio and strenuous.
But not as a typical person to train for a distance event as opposed to making it into the NFL.
Dec 10, 2010 3:03pm
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Sonofanump

Dec 10, 2010 3:04 PM
Wait, what does distance running and the OSU QB situation have to do with early entries into the NFL?
Dec 10, 2010 3:04pm
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Dec 10, 2010 3:11 PM
Sonofanump;595502 wrote:Wait, what does distance running and the OSU QB situation have to do with early entries into the NFL?
hell, if you don't know, we sure as hell ain't gonna' tell ya' :D
Dec 10, 2010 3:11pm
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Sonofanump

Dec 10, 2010 3:16 PM
vball10set;595510 wrote:hell, if you don't know, we sure as hell ain't gonna' tell ya' :D

I guess I'll never know...
Dec 10, 2010 3:16pm
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johngrizzly

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Dec 10, 2010 4:37 PM
Miller does throw better than Pryor, but not much better.

Pryor is the better runner and more elusive.

Miller is the #1 ranked duel threat QB? Wow.
Dec 10, 2010 4:37pm
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Dec 10, 2010 4:50 PM
What?
Dec 10, 2010 4:50pm
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Dec 10, 2010 5:07 PM
johngrizzly;595640 wrote:Miller does throw better than Pryor, but not much better.

Pryor is the better runner and more elusive.

Miller is the #1 ranked duel threat QB? Wow.

you have either not seen Miller play, or you know nothing about the quarterback position...Wow :rolleyes:
Dec 10, 2010 5:07pm
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johngrizzly

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Dec 10, 2010 5:17 PM
vball10set;595663 wrote:you have either not seen Miller play, or you know nothing about the quarterback position...Wow :rolleyes:

If Miller is better, he'll beat out Pryor next year, right?
Dec 10, 2010 5:17pm
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Dec 10, 2010 9:20 PM
ccrunner609;595427 wrote:you wouldnt last 1/4 mile at my pace....probably because your body is weak and couldnt handle it but it might also be that your not mentally tough. Which we call being a pussy. Being a competative distance runner at an elite level is alot harder then playing any level of football.

he is/was a marine you dumbfuck. Im pretty sure he isnt "weaK" and is in pretty good shape as well as mentally tough. Probably a lot more mentally tough than your dumbass.
Dec 10, 2010 9:20pm
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johngrizzly

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Dec 10, 2010 9:50 PM
Pryor will beat Miller next year in the 5K as well.
Dec 10, 2010 9:50pm