bases_loaded
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Nov 26, 2010 10:13pm
thedynasty1998;574053 wrote:Upsets happen in conference games because teams know each other better. Boise has the same risk of losing a conference game.
Maybe Boise deserves more credit for not slipping up every year, like some others do (USC and OSU the last 2 seasons). They do what they are supposed to do every single game.
And yes, point spreads are relevant. It shows that no one takes OSU's opponents serious.
This ended up being a comparison of Boise and OSU's schedule, and that's fine. But my only point is to give credit where credit's do, and that it's ironic when Buckeye fans are so openly critical of Boise's schedule.
And as I said before, I was talking about the ACC, Big East and the Big 10. Admittedly that SEC, Pac 10 and Big 12 play tougher schedules week by week.
But what would the reaction be if Michigan State was undefeated and we were discussing their resume?
How is OSU losing at a top 10 team slipping up?
Jughead
Posts: 1,261
Nov 26, 2010 10:27pm
cats gone wild;575321 wrote:"And Ohio State was not interested in a return here for obvious reasons," Hesselbrock said. "
This is all I have to say. Ohio State will not return a trip to a team that could potentially threaten them, and I don't necessarily disagree with their practices. College football has degenerated into a multi-million dollar business.
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enigmaax
Posts: 4,511
Nov 26, 2010 10:32pm
Jughead;576329 wrote:This is all I have to say. Ohio State will not return a trip to a team that could potentially threaten them, and I don't necessarily disagree with their practices. College football has degenerated into a multi-million dollar business.
By degenerated, you mean it has gotten worse? How so? When was it so much better?
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Nov 26, 2010 10:51pm
Oregon vs. Boise
Auburn vs. TCU
Winners advance
Settle it on the field. If they aren't deserving and they do not belong on the same field they will lose.
Auburn vs. TCU
Winners advance
Settle it on the field. If they aren't deserving and they do not belong on the same field they will lose.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Nov 26, 2010 10:51pm
Jughead;576329 wrote:This is all I have to say. Ohio State will not return a trip to a team that could potentially threaten them, and I don't necessarily disagree with their practices. College football has degenerated into a multi-million dollar business.
what? USC, Texas, Miami are teams that have not shot at beating us?
jordo212000
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Nov 26, 2010 10:54pm
Pick6;576351 wrote:what? USC, Texas, Miami are teams that have not shot at beating us?
I think he is saying that worst case scenario: we lose to Texas/Miami... it is understandable to the media because those are college football bluebloods and Ohio State can recover the rest of the season because of that.
A loss to TCU/Boise/upper tier mid major is a crushing because in many people's opinion, Ohio State shouldn't lose to those schools. Ohio State has absolutely nothing to gain.
darbypitcher22
Posts: 8,000
Nov 26, 2010 11:00pm
^^^^
just like its a crapshoot for any big timer to take on Boise or TCU
just like its a crapshoot for any big timer to take on Boise or TCU
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Nov 26, 2010 11:10pm
jordo212000;576355 wrote:I think he is saying that worst case scenario: we lose to Texas/Miami... it is understandable to the media because those are college football bluebloods and Ohio State can recover the rest of the season because of that.
A loss to TCU/Boise/upper tier mid major is a crushing because in many people's opinion, Ohio State shouldn't lose to those schools. Ohio State has absolutely nothing to gain.
I agree. Which is the same for every other big time program
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Nov 26, 2010 11:21pm
So I guess we can all agree if they want to be considered seriously in the Big Boy sand box they need to go Independent, bend over take it in the ass for a couple years 'till they gain some rep then get a shot at a title if they survive.
Finally, a consensus.
Finally, a consensus.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Nov 26, 2010 11:28pm
ytownfootball;576382 wrote:So I guess we can all agree if they want to be considered seriously in the Big Boy sand box they need to go Independent, bend over take it in the ass for a couple years 'till they gain some rep then get a shot at a title if they survive.
Finally, a consensus.
Even if they did that, the system still isn't perfect. It appears as if we are going to have 4 unbeaten teams this year and two of them will be playing for the championship. Of the other two (one will resort to beating the bejesus out of a Big East/ACC school and the other will probably be left out all together)
dwccrew
Posts: 7,817
Nov 27, 2010 1:35am
Looks like Gee was right.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Nov 27, 2010 1:44am
Yeah Gee was right. Top 25 team on the road you're not allowed to have a close game
DeyDurkie5
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Nov 27, 2010 1:46am
Hb31187;576599 wrote:Yeah Gee was right. Top 25 team on the road you're not allowed to have a close game
just imagine boise right now playing alabama like auburn had to do for their last game, it would be a blowout
dwccrew
Posts: 7,817
Nov 27, 2010 1:46am
Hb31187;576599 wrote:Yeah Gee was right. Top 25 team on the road you're not allowed to have a close game
Nevada lost to Hawaii, they are top 25 because of the same reason as Boise. Boise couldn't beat Oregon, Auburn, LSU, TCU, Stanford or Wisconsin. They're top ten, but not top 5. Not after this shit display. And after they lose, they will be out of the top five.
dwccrew
Posts: 7,817
Nov 27, 2010 1:47am
Honestly, who has Nevada beat to be deemed top 25? Boise deserves top 10 and even top 5 right now, but there is at least 5-6 teams better than BSU.
dwccrew
Posts: 7,817
Nov 27, 2010 1:49am
Also, Gee said they don't deserve the title game which I think is an accurate statement after this shit display.
ytownfootball
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Nov 27, 2010 1:50am
BYU...LOL
Hb31187
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Nov 27, 2010 1:55am
Nevada*ytownfootball;576637 wrote:BYU...LOL
dwccrew
Posts: 7,817
Nov 27, 2010 1:58am
Gordon Gee's case is closed. Boom, see ya Boise St.
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cats gone wild
Posts: 2,651
Nov 27, 2010 2:02am
dwccrew;576685 wrote:Gordon Gee's case is closed. Boom, see ya Boise St.
Until Oregon or AUB loses next week and TCU gets in.
dwccrew
Posts: 7,817
Nov 27, 2010 2:04am
cats gone wild;576700 wrote:Until Oregon or AUB loses next week and TCU gets in.
Doubt it. Even if TCU gets in, when they get destroyed in the title game, it'll just add more to Gee's case.
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enigmaax
Posts: 4,511
Nov 27, 2010 2:05am
cats gone wild;576700 wrote:Until Oregon or AUB loses next week and TCU gets in.
I'm interested to see what happens with Wisconsin. If they win, they stand to make a huge leap taking a lot of Boise's votes/points. LSU/Stanford can gain, as well, but I'm willing to bet that Wisconsin takes a big leap as a backup plan for an upset since LSU/Stanford aren't going to get into the title game over their conference counterparts even if those teams lose.
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cats gone wild
Posts: 2,651
Nov 27, 2010 2:08am
enigmaax;576710 wrote:I'm interested to see what happens with Wisconsin. If they win, they stand to make a huge leap taking a lot of Boise's votes/points. LSU/Stanford can gain, as well, but I'm willing to bet that Wisconsin takes a big leap as a backup plan for an upset since LSU/Stanford aren't going to get into the title game over their conference counterparts even if those teams lose.
IF LSU beats #12 Arkansas, Wisconsin has NO chance of jumping LSU when they play a unranked Northwestern team.
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enigmaax
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Nov 27, 2010 2:12am
cats gone wild;576715 wrote:IF LSU beats #12 Arkansas, Wisconsin has NO chance of jumping LSU when they play a unranked Northwestern team.
We'll see. LSU isn't going to the title game even with an Auburn loss. Auburn isn't going to get into the title game if they lose. TCU lost a lot of luster with Boise's loss and the fact that they aren't playing the next couple weeks. I could be wrong, but if it comes down to it, I think Wisconsin (again assuming they win) if the team with the most to gain if #1 or #2 slip and that could start this week because voters know it becomes more difficult to do next week.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 27, 2010 2:34am
I hope its Auburn Wisconsin in the title game. If Ohio State can't stop their run, Auburn won't either. Badgers by 20+