GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Mar 17, 2011 5:28pm
I actually took Junya in your fantasy league coyote. Can you believe that shit? Lol
Speedofsand
Posts: 5,529
Mar 17, 2011 10:34pm
I'm picking Trevor Bayne.
coyotes22
Posts: 11,298
Mar 19, 2011 9:33am
#99 grabs the pole.
Not the first time thats been said.
Not the first time thats been said.
coyotes22
Posts: 11,298
Mar 19, 2011 9:35am
Race on the 20th. #22 sits in the 20th spot, #88 sits in the 22nd spot. Hmmmmm
coyotes22
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Mar 19, 2011 11:26am
Jr rolls off 11th for the NNS race today.
coyotes22
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Mar 19, 2011 2:19pm
Green flag @Bristol. #thethunderrolls
coyotes22
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Mar 19, 2011 2:23pm
Stenhouse still leading after 20 laps.
Lap 25, will be a NASCAR caution, for tire ware.
Lap 25, will be a NASCAR caution, for tire ware.
coyotes22
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Mar 19, 2011 2:29pm
Jr takes the lead after caution.
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Gardens35
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Mar 19, 2011 10:42pm
MUST READ the article on Jennifer Jo Cobb at www.nascar.com
MUST READ the article on Jennifer Jo Cobb at www.nascar.com
MUST READ the article on Jennifer Jo Cobb at www.nascar.com
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Mar 20, 2011 12:28pm
coyotes22;717548 wrote:Stenhouse still leading after 20 laps.
Lap 25, will be a NASCAR caution, for tire ware.
Mandatory cautions are extremely dumb, IMO. If the teams aren't smart enough to come in on their own and change tires, that is their problem.
Speedofsand
Posts: 5,529
Mar 20, 2011 12:38pm
not the teams' call. Nascar & Goodyear call it. Happens 5-10 times a year. This week is odd though because its rare to change tire compounds in mid-event. Just like Dunlop at Daytona last week, but not in the middle of the race.
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WebFire
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Mar 20, 2011 12:42pm
Speedofsand;718239 wrote:not the teams' call. Nascar & Goodyear call it. Happens 5-10 times a year. This week is odd though because its rare to change tire compounds in mid-event. Just like Dunlop at Daytona last week, but not in the middle of the race.
Yes I know it's not their call. Hence the "mandatory".
GoChiefs
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Mar 20, 2011 1:25pm
WebFire;718226 wrote:Mandatory cautions are extremely dumb, IMO. If the teams aren't smart enough to come in on their own and change tires, that is their problem.
NASCAR doesn't do it for the drivers. They do it for themselves so they can get research on the tires and see if they are going to hold up. After the mandatory, NASCAR looks at the tires from every team.
ts1227
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Mar 20, 2011 1:48pm
Holy shit, the stands are amazingly empty today.
GoChiefs
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Mar 20, 2011 2:01pm
ts1227;718304 wrote:Holy shit, the stands are amazingly empty today.
I noticed that too...that's a big ol' middle finger to the powers to be at Bristol for ruining an awesome fucking track.
GoChiefs
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Mar 20, 2011 2:02pm
Welp...Robby Gordon made it to lap 130 before wrecking!
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Gardens35
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Mar 20, 2011 2:03pm
That Pace Car.
ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Mar 20, 2011 2:32pm
We need to get a vbookie going every week on when Robby will wreck/cause a caution. It's just too fun, lol.
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WebFire
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Mar 20, 2011 2:37pm
GoChiefs;718280 wrote:NASCAR doesn't do it for the drivers. They do it for themselves so they can get research on the tires and see if they are going to hold up. After the mandatory, NASCAR looks at the tires from every team.
That's even worse then. Have they ever heard of testing?
GoChiefs
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Mar 20, 2011 2:47pm
WebFire;718394 wrote:That's even worse then. Have they ever heard of testing?
Sure they test. But...
A) It's a new track surface
B) When they test in December/January, the track isn't going to be the same in March. So the tire in colder December's test could have been fine, but doesn't work on the new track surface in the warmer March. Too many variables play a factor in it.
They had problems...and they are doing what they can to fix it. It's a caution, big deal.
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WebFire
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Mar 20, 2011 2:51pm
It's stupid, that's the big deal. So test in frickin'g March.
GoChiefs
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Mar 20, 2011 3:01pm
Right, because that 2 minutes it takes for a caution is a huge deal. 50 laps into the race is going to make a difference on the outcome too isn't it? Guess it's stupid for thinking it's a big deal. Considering teams prepare their cars at least a month in advance, it would be impossible to test in March. You don't know if you are going to have problems until you get to the track. If you do, you fix it. Just like they are doing.
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WebFire
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Mar 20, 2011 3:05pm
GoChiefs;718437 wrote:Right, because that 2 minutes it takes for a caution is a huge deal. 50 laps into the race is going to make a difference on the outcome too isn't it? Guess it's stupid for thinking it's a big deal. Considering teams prepare their cars at least a month in advance, it would be impossible to test in March. You don't know if you are going to have problems until you get to the track. If you do, you fix it. Just like they are doing.
Sure could make a difference. If you don't think so that is just ignorant. Doesn't mean it will, but it could. I think it's downright pathetic they can't figure out tires enough to not have to take a mandatory caution DURING A RACE.
What did they do in the old days when they didn't do this?
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Mar 20, 2011 3:16pm
Exactly. They don't have a caution, the drivers are unaware of any issues, and on lap 52, a tire goes down on a car and takes out half the field. Sure could play a big part in the outcome huh? Nothing pathetic about it. Like I said, there is too many variables that go into each track to know exactly what that tire is going to do at that particular track at that particular time.
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WebFire
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Mar 20, 2011 3:50pm
GoChiefs;718459 wrote:Exactly. They don't have a caution, the drivers are unaware of any issues, and on lap 52, a tire goes down on a car and takes out half the field. Sure could play a big part in the outcome huh? Nothing pathetic about it. Like I said, there is too many variables that go into each track to know exactly what that tire is going to do at that particular track at that particular time.
So, new surface, new tire, and you go 52 laps without a stop. That's your fault for being a dumbass.
Nascar should know what they are bringing to the track, and the teams should know what they are dealing with. If they decide to push it, that's the chance you take.